Unboxed my premium over the weekend and I keep getting random ball saves activating and a new ball plunged when my original ball is clearly still in play and never drained. This only happens when ball save is flashing, so I am wondering if it's a trough sensor issue? This is probably not game specific, but I couldn't find a answer to my problem elsewhere. What should I look into for troubleshooting? Newer to the hobby so forgive my limited knowledge.

If you're only getting saved balls during ballsave, and NOT seeing your ball in play ended early after ballsave ends (bonus count while ball is still on playfield), it's likely an outlane switch is triggering when it shouldn't be. Either an outlane switch wires are going to another switch, or the outlane switch is way too sensitive and being triggered by vibration. Check switches for issues.

Take the glass off, put the game in switch test mode (remember to pull the white post so switches are energized) and smack the playfield firmly with your hand in various places to see if switches trigger from the vibration.

Has anyone who ordered a premium from automated services heard anything about their estimated delivery?

Yeah man .. not trying to be a jerk here but I own both these games Minimal issues and they are a ton of fun . I am sure you can get it tweaked there is nothing inherently faulty with them. Only issue I had was ball flying off the wireform that crosses the playfield and the slight bend did it.

I have not adjusted my flipper power at all , relax man these are two awesome
Games !!

As mentioned before, what is the pitch on your machine? I have played around with the pitch on our premium model and personally feel when my machine is set at 6.5 I get a decent amount of ball hops etc. I have our machine at 6.7 and she shoots like butter.

On the main ramp in 2 spots the 1st is at the beginning of the wireform(There's a key post about this) and if manages to stay on then it it falls off where it curves right next to the vuk. I have bent the ramp like the key post but I has not made any difference. For the marvel ramp the ball goes up and either the shot is made, the ball rolls down or it gets halfway up and then just falls out. On wireform near portal the ball jumps out right before the exit near upper flipper.

Pitch is at 6.6

If you take the walk lock off and set that adjustment to 'pass through' the subway shot still works but it virtual locks instead.

Take the glass off and put the game in switch test and start hitting these shots over and over. It should be easy to see what is causing the ball to come off the main wireform by the VUK. Hell since your flippers are set so weak, you could just set the ball on the wireform and it will come off by the VUK. That’s where you film in slow mo. Something is touching the ball and knocking it off the rails.

The marvel ramp will be harder. Something is physically impeding it’s progress. Again. Do slo mo for a made shot and a rejected shot and compare the two.

Called last week and was told 4-5 weeks because of Stern delays.

Thanks. I had a feeling.

On mine it was falling off right before the curve at the VUK, but adjusting the 3rd rail at the end of the wireform solved it. Even though the problem was further up the rail, the ball wasn't falling off immediately and was instead falling off on the other side of the playfield. That's where taking video and checking out the path of the ball leading up to and at at each place where you have an issue will help you figure out where an adjustment needs to be made to fix it. You might need to bend it a bit more, but you would likely be able to confirm what's going on if you take video and review it.

Or stern could play test the fucking things at the factory before they sent them out.

I have a gunners coming too and i'm really excited about it.

I'm dreading seeing the Avengers and having to hope the machine is fixable AFTER it's delivered to Australia.

This will be my last nib stern. Just can't cope with their business model.

When tempered glass is held this tight (mine is too) it is very liable to shatter on its own due to tension. I keep worrying about hearing it explode in the middle of the night and seeing a thousand tiny pieces lying on the playfield. I intend to take a flat punch that fits inside the runners that hold the glass, and tap them with a dead blow hammer a bit to widen the runners just a hair. That's all it would take. I'll report back once I get time to do it.

I pulled the AIQ glass and tried it in another pin. Fit perfectly loose as normal. Tried a different glass in AIQ and it wouldn't fit. The cabinets are being made slightly too narrow in some cases.

I’m in the LE CLUB !!!
What an amazing machine ... love it!

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Or that cabinet is slightly out of square, or the glass channel plastic was put on just slightly off.

So what is a good answer to expect a premium pin? This sucks. Paid in full day 1, told it “should ship” mid October. Ok, I was fine with that at day one. Than calling my distributor around mid October they said they should get their orders in for premiums October 16, than the 19th or 20th. Now the they said possibly the 26th, guess what, no call. Seeing others get their premiums here makes me second guess why I even paid for it it to begin with.

If a distributor has no idea when their orders will be filled, fine tell me that. At least than I can’t be let down. Hate the smoke screen of its coming tomorrow, than next day, etc. Wish I could cancel this order and not lose any money so I can buy another pin to restore instead.

Referencing my post from Friday regarding my "1 # off" issue in my LE. Got an e-mail from Eddie @ Stern repair, referenced part #509-1003-01 (node board), and sending me a reprogrammed one to correct the problem.

NEXT BUSINESS DAY RESPONSE!!!! Man, anybody that rags on Stern has lost their mind.....

This minor ocd thing doesn't affect my ability to play at all, and had a massive great game (around 400 million) tonight...very good for me, not reading any rules yet. It really is a great shooter, and getting more fun by the day......

Premium arrived today! Plays perfect out of the box, zero issues.

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Thought I'd try again to see if anyone has suggestions on the LE speaker settings. Any ideas as to what ohm, fade, gain, etc. settings give the best sound?

Nice diverse lineup. How do you like that P3?

I emailed them this morning about the power cord mix up, eddie responded with in 2 hrs .... no questions asked, cord is in the mail....

I have no complaints, they've always treated me right

Yup. It’s definitely the cab...

I love it! The ability to have multiple games in one spot is huge for me, as I can only comfortably fit 4 (maybe 5 if I could sneak it past the wife) games. The P3 is a huge changeup from the rest of the lineup, and I really try and maximize my variety. I would recommend a P3 to anyone who is thinking about it. Heist is a great game on its own, and the fact I can swap in CCR or Lexy is just icing on the cake.

I paid in full on 2nd day of release for my Premium and got the call from FedEx late last week that it should be delivered to my house in California on November 3rd.

Yeah, I was definitely disappointed. But I don’t turn over games often so one month is not the end of the world. Having to wait who knows how long for my GNR makes this seem ok to me though...

Its official, in the club now. Just got my Avengers Premium today! So much fun!

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Pinwoofer. Drops mic...
Seriously I have it installed and it's amazing.
If you do try it, be sure and call Dan and tell him you have an LE. You won't need new speakers. Just the amp kit and a woofer spacer ring.

Ok but with a stock LE setup it's not bad, just underpowered. I found setting the backbox to 8ohm sounded a lot better. Set the high frequency to 8khz. Then work on boosting bass on the cab speaker, and use 250Hz. You can select 10 band eq to dial it in best you can, boosting highs for the backbox and lows for the cab.

Dupe

When I opened the box the other day when mine arrived I noticed this, however the glass should slide in easier the first few inches as the cabinet is slightly wider as you can see in the pic, cabinet is solid by the way, just wasn’t clamped properly I guess.

I honestly think it’s the glass channel, my glass has a small scratch line (hidden by the channel thankfully) I’m going to try and spread the channel a little at some point, tightest glass I’ve ever had in a pin.

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Stupid question as I don't have mine already. Could they have used a thinner channel so it doesn't get scratched by the captain marvel ramp? I heard that one is pretty close to the glass.

just looking at the various updates recently, sorry I'm a geek, there is a lot_ going on with how Stern structuring their code. A lot more encryption- I suspect to make the games secure for going online.

Online probably had a lot to do with it, but I also imagine when Dwight's code was disassembled and literally all his easter eggs for a game (I don't recall which one...Munsters?) laid out in a post a year or so ago, Stern probably freaked out a little. Who puts easter eggs in plaintext??

Oh, and I'm sure they want to kill pinball browser, too.

A little late but I gave her some.

She's a throw away character........too soon?

Never mastered the super hero landing

This doohickey broke off, so I went to settings and bypassed the portal/subway lock. I think the game might actually be more fun this way. The gauntlet ramp becomes the portal shot with a lot less waiting time. Plus, no need to worry about the inevitable something going wrong with the rising disc. Now I need cool inserts for the subway windows.

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metallik and PinMonk thank you both for help troubleshooting my ball save issues. After doing some switch test I believe the left outlane switch just needed wiggled a bit as it must have been slightly catching and triggering during vibrations earlier. Seems cleared for now.

BTW, this game makes you feel like a combo god, even when I only rack up around 44M. I need to keep practicing, but the flow is insane.

Do you have any more details on this ? Is this to prevent or detect the two balls stuck where one ball should be problem and/or the hung ball near the vuk problem ?

Probably not all related, but it started with a ball occasionally get stuck right before the vux. A small shake of the machine would knock it loose. Then, after .92 code update, balls would occasionally get hung up on the first and second tooth and would release after four or five ball checks. I thought is was an issue with code and that it would be cleared up on .93. Last night, a ball was hung up on the first tooth and would not release whatsoever. Second ball in just stacked on top of first. Had to lift playfield to access when I noticed the pieces on the bottom of cabinet. It is good to hear that Stern updated build specs on subway. I have always had great service from Stern when it comes to parts and maintenance so I am confident that they will get the subways working as intended.

When trying to obtain the Soul Gem, the Captain Marvel shot needs to be adjusted from Stern. This is shot #6. When I rip my Captain Marvel spinner I can usually get 35 spins off of it. I notice when I'm battling for the Soul Gem when I hit this shot it usually will take 2 shots to complete and move onto shot #7. They need to adjust it maybe down to 20 spins to complete on the Pro. I'm guessing it's set somewhere around 35. The reason I say this is because on the Premium all you need to hit is the ramp shot and any shot that you're hitting solid would go up the ramp so it needs adjusted on the Pro. Please Stern I don't know if anyone else has noticed this?

Only took one shot for me the couple times I got there. Pro.

In the Mind Gem quest, hitting any Avenger shot and then spinning the disc progresses the quest. But the game calls out a specific Avenger during the quest. Is there any scoring advantage to hitting that specific Avenger instead of the others?

For using the gems, they have greater power depending on the level of the Avenger they're placed on. It looks like 5 out of the 6 possible gem locations are on an Avenger that can be leveled up, so when a gem is placed on the computer grid (Vision) is it just limited to only having its base power or am I missing a way to use a higher level gem power at Vision?

Noticing some wear one both edges of the Ant-Man (mystery) scoop.

Anyone have any ideas for protection on this? Was thinking mylar, or reaching out to Cliff to get some small edge protectors made.

Also, anyone finding the cheap SDTM drains from the pops infuriating. I'm really enjoying the game except for this. Feels even cheap, and less nudgeable than the pop drop in TWD!