Quoted from BrandonLaw:

I know Stern frequents this thread and those things are all software and will progress as time goes on. Game is still a great seller and attractive in all settings (HUO, Arcade, Bars, Ect.) so the updates/progression will hopefully continue.

Quoted from petrieslastword:

Just to compare the two pro models, Deadpool has the little Deadpool that you get to bash with the drop targets right in front of it, The awesome looking katana ramp with the physical ball locks, a light up chimichanga truck in the background, an acrylic standee Deadpool in a hammock that swings when you hit the ramp, and fun acrylic stand-ups for all the major allies in the game and a scoop + 2 spinners and 10 standup targets and a skillshot mechanic at the top of the playfield that gives even a novice a 25% chance of hitting the skillshot by luck alone, which is more exciting.
AIQ Pro has The sling disc, a stand-up target to start modes at the sanctum, The Avengers Tower with the magnet at the top plus an upper flipper, a captive ball for Thor, and two spinners plus the crappy plastic gauntlet display and a much less interesting mechanic for its drop targets for a novice Plus the Hawkeye targets and the Ant-Man target. It feels like anyone claiming stern didn't cheap out on the toys on this one is being a bit disingenuous. The pro really has nothing for the casual or novice player.
When I'm saying AIQ is boring I'm saying this with regard to a novice player playing it on location, and the chance that it is then a pinball they would look into owning. When my casual friends have gotten to try Deadpool on location it's a machine they've asked me about the cost of and such. With AIQ that was never the case. It's an amazing shooting machine that's a lot of fun to play, but it's not fun or interesting to a casual player at all, and the mediocre sound package does it no favors. Just some acrylic standees for the various Avengers would have gone along way to make it more interesting visually to a casual player.

Quoted from EaglePin:

To improve the callouts I'd guess they'd have to get new/additional voice work done and I'm guessing that won't happen. They used the Marvel voice actors for the callouts which I think was definitely a cool idea for the theme of the pin. I like the idea and the choice they made on it. I just think it didn't quite end up working out as good as it could have because those voice actors delivered their lines in a similar way they'd do it for their show instead of hitting it with more energy/attitude for a pinball game callout.

Quoted from Wildbill327:

So after listing all the “toys” on DeadPool and AIQ they pretty much seem the same…both have a few interactive mechanisms. AIQ has a spinner/disk, tower, drops…DP has a katana ramp and drops. So actually AIQ has one more interactive toy than DP. Some people love toys(stagnant characters/figures)on their pins and that’s fine but I much rather have Stern use more of the BOM on code or interactive toys rather than stagnant toys/plastic figures. I also believe most beginners to pinball seem to enjoy a bash toy on the playfield since it’s usually a easy shot and makes you feel like you’re doing something cool. When I use to have a Metallica pro all my non-pinball friends loved it because they could bash Sparky and feel like they accomplished something. The cool thing is that no matter what style of gameplay you like(or skill level you’re at)you have multiple pins to choose from. AIQ could definitely use a few more callouts that get your attention but who knows if Stern/Keith are still working on AIQ’s code.

Quoted from EaglePin:

I think it comes down to AIQ not having enough emotion or those big pinball moments in games when you know you just did something big.

Quoted from TheLaw:

I personally don't get the "no energy" thing at all, but the stacking being confusing I find myself. There's always a countdown going on I have no idea what it is. Probably using the characters voice should be telling me but it's still like; "Whatever."

Quoted from vikingerik:

For a casual fan, all that isn't even as interesting as bashing AFM's saucer or MM's castle.

Quoted from bigguybbr:

On AIQ you have to make how many varied shots before the game kinda goes "Meh... Make a few more shots"?

Quoted from The-Hum:

For those who are new or haven't tried it,
I highly recommend you check out the spider sound and video mod.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/avengers-infinity-quest-spider-soundmod

Quoted from A330FOATL:

I'm having trouble installing the Tower mod. The issue is that the mod tower" pin doesn't seem to line up with any of the pins on the machine. Am I "missing" something? Could they have installed a new type of pin/. My Advengers is one month old. Also, I'm having difficulty determining which pin of the game needs to be removed. See photos.
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Quoted from vikingerik:

Has anyone has this experience? I put on Titan low-bounce silicon rubbers, and then my left flipper can't make the Captain Marvel ramp from a catch.
It's definitely this rubber causing it. If I switch back to the original rubber, the flipper makes the ramp fine. Playfield is at 6.5 degrees by a digital readout. It's not a problem with flipper strength, I replaced the coil stops and sleeves, and it hits every other steep shot fine. The behavior is the same with or without a lexan barrier on the left side of the Marvel ramp entrance. Making the Marvel ramp from a rolling shot is more consistent than from a catch, but still less consistent with the Titan rubber than the original.
I think the cause is ball spin - the ball needs some clockwise sidespin to grab and climb the outer wall of the Marvel ramp. The original rubber applies more spin than the Titan. A rolling shot picks up more spin (with either rubber) for a better shot at making it.
Any thoughts on this? Any suggestions for other flipper rubbers that are good with control and can also apply the bit of sidespin that seems needed?

Quoted from vikingerik:

Has anyone has this experience? I put on Titan low-bounce silicon rubbers, and then my left flipper can't make the Captain Marvel ramp from a catch.
It's definitely this rubber causing it. If I switch back to the original rubber, the flipper makes the ramp fine. Playfield is at 6.5 degrees by a digital readout. It's not a problem with flipper strength, I replaced the coil stops and sleeves, and it hits every other steep shot fine. The behavior is the same with or without a lexan barrier on the left side of the Marvel ramp entrance. Making the Marvel ramp from a rolling shot is more consistent than from a catch, but still less consistent with the Titan rubber than the original.
I think the cause is ball spin - the ball needs some clockwise sidespin to grab and climb the outer wall of the Marvel ramp. The original rubber applies more spin than the Titan. A rolling shot picks up more spin (with either rubber) for a better shot at making it.
Any thoughts on this? Any suggestions for other flipper rubbers that are good with control and can also apply the bit of sidespin that seems needed?

Quoted from bigguybbr:

That seems backwards. Titans usually add way more spin to the ball. They are more "sticky" (i.e. greater coefficient of static friction) than regular rubber rings, which is why it is easier to trap up using them.
Have you cleaned and waxed recently?

Quoted from C0untDeM0net:

I have the pinball life perfect plays on mine currently and they feel great, no issues making any shots. No issues making any of the shots

Quoted from bigguybbr:

I think pinball life sells "Super Bands", and they are made out of urethane, right?
I tried some of those on my DP. They seemed almost too slippery, and made ball control more difficult for me.

Quoted from bigguybbr:

That seems backwards. Titans usually add way more spin to the ball. They are more "sticky" (i.e. greater coefficient of static friction) than regular rubber rings, which is why it is easier to trap up using them.
Have you cleaned and waxed recently?

Quoted from vikingerik:

Has anyone has this experience? I put on Titan low-bounce silicon rubbers, and then my left flipper can't make the Captain Marvel ramp from a catch.
It's definitely this rubber causing it. If I switch back to the original rubber, the flipper makes the ramp fine. Playfield is at 6.5 degrees by a digital readout. It's not a problem with flipper strength, I replaced the coil stops and sleeves, and it hits every other steep shot fine. The behavior is the same with or without a lexan barrier on the left side of the Marvel ramp entrance. Making the Marvel ramp from a rolling shot is more consistent than from a catch, but still less consistent with the Titan rubber than the original.
I think the cause is ball spin - the ball needs some clockwise sidespin to grab and climb the outer wall of the Marvel ramp. The original rubber applies more spin than the Titan. A rolling shot picks up more spin (with either rubber) for a better shot at making it.
Any thoughts on this? Any suggestions for other flipper rubbers that are good with control and can also apply the bit of sidespin that seems needed?

Quoted from vikingerik:

Has anyone has this experience? I put on Titan low-bounce silicon rubbers, and then my left flipper can't make the Captain Marvel ramp from a catch.
It's definitely this rubber causing it. If I switch back to the original rubber, the flipper makes the ramp fine. Playfield is at 6.5 degrees by a digital readout. It's not a problem with flipper strength, I replaced the coil stops and sleeves, and it hits every other steep shot fine. The behavior is the same with or without a lexan barrier on the left side of the Marvel ramp entrance. Making the Marvel ramp from a rolling shot is more consistent than from a catch, but still less consistent with the Titan rubber than the original.
I think the cause is ball spin - the ball needs some clockwise sidespin to grab and climb the outer wall of the Marvel ramp. The original rubber applies more spin than the Titan. A rolling shot picks up more spin (with either rubber) for a better shot at making it.
Any thoughts on this? Any suggestions for other flipper rubbers that are good with control and can also apply the bit of sidespin that seems needed?

Quoted from bigguybbr:

From a design perspective, it's actually a really smart move if you can concede that these machines are built to make money on location and not sit in home game rooms to obsess over.
If you offer some straight up the middle shots that novices can hammer away at and feel like they are making progress, you can get them to come back and spend some more quarters. That's probably why MM is one of the most popular machines of all times. In a few shots up the middle you can trigger castle to flap around like a wounded chicken and make a big fanfare like you just beat the game.
On AIQ you have to make how many varied shots before the game kinda goes "Meh... Make a few more shots"?

Quoted from Zambonilli:I have both DP and AIQ sitting next to each other. DP gets non-stop play and a line queuing whenever we have people over. AIQ does not get a positive response and usually sits until I throw a game on and start explaining all the rules to someone waiting.
I explain to people that DP is like Call of Duty and AIQ is like Skyrim. Both are amazing in their own way but they are complete opposite types of games.

Quoted from petrieslastword:

That said I don't think there is a better value to be had long-term for a homeownership pin.

Quoted from Yodamtu44:

I’m having an issue with my right flipper sticking in the up position. I thought EOS first, but I was able to get it stuck during coil test, power off machine and it remained stuck.
I’ve replaced the coil sleeve and “reseated” the plunger linkage. That seemed to help a little, but looking for other ideas to look out for.

Quoted from Zambonilli:

I have both DP and AIQ sitting next to each other. DP gets non-stop play and a line queuing whenever we have people over. AIQ does not get a positive response and usually sits until I throw a game on and start explaining all the rules to someone waiting.

Quoted from Yodamtu44:

I’m having an issue with my right flipper sticking in the up position. I thought EOS first, but I was able to get it stuck during coil test, power off machine and it remained stuck.
I’ve replaced the coil sleeve and “reseated” the plunger linkage. That seemed to help a little, but looking for other ideas to look out for.

Quoted from Taygeta:

AIQ has a cool layout that a casual player can enjoy, its not too difficult to make the shots, but the best part of the game, the code, is labyrinthic to the casual player and can really only be enjoyed by someone thats put the time to read the crazy rulesheet and is a above average player to start with that can collect, place and use the gems well.
I can definitely see how people are turned off by the game. It is borderline too complicated.

Quoted from Yodamtu44:

I’m having an issue with my right flipper sticking in the up position. I thought EOS first, but I was able to get it stuck during coil test, power off machine and it remained stuck.
I’ve replaced the coil sleeve and “reseated” the plunger linkage. That seemed to help a little, but looking for other ideas to look out for.

Quoted from Yodamtu44:

I’m having an issue with my right flipper sticking in the up position. I thought EOS first, but I was able to get it stuck during coil test, power off machine and it remained stuck.
I’ve replaced the coil sleeve and “reseated” the plunger linkage. That seemed to help a little, but looking for other ideas to look out for.

Quoted from Sleal16:

I'm having a similar problem with IMDN. If I do quick flips theres a minor delay in returning back to its position. If I hold for cradle or something, it stays up till the machine vibrates slightly. Stays up with power off and checked to see how freely it moves manually, which feels pretty smooth. Had replaced the coil stop and sleeves but issue remains. Think my next two things to check is the spring and then the end of the rod for mushrooming. I feel its going to be the latter and needs some slight sanding/grinding. When I move that rod through the sleeves with my hand, it feels pretty good but think the coil activation takes it a bit further where it gets caught? Been an issue the past week and getting worse but will have a chance to take a look at this evening.

Quoted from C0untDeM0net:

I hear people say this all the time but the game is pretty linear with the main quest. It comes down to spin the sling ring to spell strange to fight villans and advance the game. Sure there is tons of strategy with the gem placement and computer but those are side things to do meant for advanced players. You can literally ignore it and have a great time. Most casuals are not going to walk up and win more than one or two gems.

Quoted from C0untDeM0net:

I've had no issues explaining to friends that come over and none of them play pinball. The card on the machine even has the #1 thing to do listed first. Most are successful in getting a mode started and a multiball. In fact just starting a multiball with 2 shots to Thor is a ton of fun for casuals. Most games are a lot harder to get a multiball started.
In fact, I can't think of one friend who actually started groot multiball on guardians while I owned it. That game scared off casuals real quick with that character selection.
So yeah, I don't see the problem. All the complex stuff is for the better players. At it's core it's pretty simple and it's a cool mech. Everyone loves watching the ball disappear in the portal. If anything, people hate playing with me on the machine because I usually have long play times on this game. That's the biggest turnoff to friends.

Quoted from Sleal16:

I'm having a similar problem with IMDN. If I do quick flips theres a minor delay in returning back to its position. If I hold for cradle or something, it stays up till the machine vibrates slightly. Stays up with power off and checked to see how freely it moves manually, which feels pretty smooth. Had replaced the coil stop and sleeves but issue remains. Think my next two things to check is the spring and then the end of the rod for mushrooming. I feel its going to be the latter and needs some slight sanding/grinding. When I move that rod through the sleeves with my hand, it feels pretty good but think the coil activation takes it a bit further where it gets caught? Been an issue the past week and getting worse but will have a chance to take a look at this evening.

Quoted from vikingerik:

Has anyone has this experience? I put on Titan low-bounce silicon rubbers, and then my left flipper can't make the Captain Marvel ramp from a catch.

Quoted from petrieslastword:

You're discussing the premium, while the Pro is almost always going to be the model on location and the one primarily being discussed here. It's the unit used to sell to new customers. Every discussion I've had here has been framed around the pro meaning the gauntlet, subway, and marvel ramp aren't part of it.
But what we're really talking about is people who approach the machine casually WITHOUT someone there to explain the nuances. It's a very unfriendly machine for casuals in that context compared to most, and isn't terribly exciting to new players compared to a lot of other Pro models with more exciting toys and features.

Quoted from EaglePin:

To improve the callouts I'd guess they'd have to get new/additional voice work done and I'm guessing that won't happen. They used the Marvel voice actors for the callouts which I think was definitely a cool idea for the theme of the pin. I like the idea and the choice they made on it. I just think it didn't quite end up working out as good as it could have because those voice actors delivered their lines in a similar way they'd do it for their show instead of hitting it with more energy/attitude for a pinball game callout.

Quoted from petrieslastword:

Yeah the most exciting parts of the game are the Iron Man and Thor malty balls in my opinion, and for me those were only made exciting when I installed the movie sound package instead of the stock one.
In reality getting one of the infinity gems should be in insanely rewarding and celebrated game-changing experience. Most of the gems don't feel like the insanely powerful tools that they should be.

i can't imagine keeping this machine without this mod. It's more important than anything else you can change on AIQ.

Quoted from adrock:

Yes. Movie code helps a lot with the callouts and moments. The first time I assembled the Avengers and saw the clip I got chills.

Quoted from Walk:

Link to code?

Quoted from C0untDeM0net:

I hear people say this all the time but the game is pretty linear with the main quest. It comes down to spin the sling ring to spell strange to fight villans and advance the game. Sure there is tons of strategy with the gem placement and computer but those are side things to do meant for advanced players. You can literally ignore it and have a great time. Most casuals are not going to walk up and win more than one or two gems.

Quoted from C0untDeM0net:

I've had no issues explaining to friends that come over and none of them play pinball. The card on the machine even has the #1 thing to do listed first. Most are successful in getting a mode started and a multiball. In fact just starting a multiball with 2 shots to Thor is a ton of fun for casuals. Most games are a lot harder to get a multiball started.
In fact, I can't think of one friend who actually started groot multiball on guardians while I owned it. That game scared off casuals real quick with that character selection.
So yeah, I don't see the problem. All the complex stuff is for the better players. At it's core it's pretty simple and it's a cool mech. Everyone loves watching the ball disappear in the portal. If anything, people hate playing with me on the machine because I usually have long play times on this game. That's the biggest turnoff to friends.

Quoted from Sleal16:

Getting into pinball last year (not really playing but the occasional 1-2 games a year while hanging out in arcades), AIQ was the most approachable for my wife and me. Right away we got to understand the plot and what the basics of the game was. Sure some modes were and still are a pain (i'm looking at you Space Gem), but after an hour or so playing we knew to just stay in Reality and Power, since those were the most direct "hit the flashing ones and win eventually" gems. We couldnt say the same for any of the other 10 pins that arcade had that we tried out over the coming weeks.

Quoted from Zambonilli:

Jediturtle did a nice writeup of captain marvel ramp rejects with silicon rubber.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/official-avengers-infinity-quest-owners-thread-pinsiders-assemble/page/175#post-6582945

Quoted from Maniac227:

Do you think AIQ is going to get another code update?
- Thanos Attacks: I wish Thanos Attacks mode kept the gem stealing part but you were safe from draining like Soul Gem mode. When playing the mode it seems like the points aren't worth the danger, and I almost just want to trap up and let him have a gem.