Annnnnnd we're back in the club thread! Thanks @scribbles!!!

Definitely! A good mix of taunting and other humor in callouts can really add to the fun of a game.

I was ordering a couple other things so I added these to the cart to try out what colors might look good. Can’t wait for the machine to get here!

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Yep, I'm definitely going to try red also. I already had a supply of the standard red rubber so I'm going to give those a try first. What about the start button? I'm not usually very much into modding or changing things, but I don't know about that green start button on the front. It might be neat if anyone could make a button in a color that matches the machine better and has the Avengers "A" logo instead of saying "Start".

Mylar & Pinball Life shooter lane protector, and I'll be checking to see if it looks like any fabric washers need to be added to protect the playfield from the apron and ball guides digging into it. Also will check to see if any ball guides need to be loosened just a bit to raise the bottom edge of them off the playfield. Then let 'er rip!!!

I just read through the rules sheet. Looks like there’s plenty there to play a fun straight forward game or dive deeper into scoring strategies. Pretty cool stuff.

Looks like a coupe ways to boost multipliers too. If I read it right it looks like it’s possible to get 15x going with one of the gems.

Broke off or unscrewed and fell out? Where did you take the picture?

I think it looks like it unscrewed also, and I don't think he/she is the one who saw it and took the picture either. Just another example of someone spreading other people's pictures around and saying something happened without having any 1st hand information to know if that's actually what happened.

Seriously, and even if it is worst case scenario it's just a broken post. Not much different or serious than replacing a coil stop.

It's always baffling to me why people feel the need to see someone else's story and start spreading it around like it's their own story to tell. Especially without having any real knowledge of what the facts of the situation are.

So I see now on the forum where the picture was originally posted that the person who actually took the picture and saw what happened posted facts about it.

The post unscrewed. Looks like a little dab of blue Loctite is all that's needed.

I'm SOOOOOO not surprised that this 1st hand account is very different from what was posted in this forum by someone who felt the need to try to re-tell someone else's story without having taken the picture and without knowing what really happened.

Just wanted to point out the follow up post here since people who like to say stuff without really knowing facts don't usually go back to clear it up and acknowledge they were wrong.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/continued-playfield-issues-with-jjp-and-stern/page/131#post-5875417

Absolutely it's good to share information about your experiences so others can be aware. And the follow up post in the other forum was a straightforward and reasonable post explaining what happened. Definitely good to be aware we might need Loctite on the spinner post.

But the person who posted here didn't know jack about shit and essentially was getting some twisted amusement by trying to pull a fire alarm about it anyway.

Rules sheet says Trophy Mania is the mode for collecting trophies. Looks like Battle Thanos would be the main ending mode unless they get all awesome on us again and put in an extra final mode like they did with WDRTE on Jurassic Park (not that I'll ever see it).

The way I think about it is if I put myself in Stern's shoes I'd probably go with the same thing. It seems like a bit of a Catch-22. If you try to design for a quiet fan and it ends up not doing the job in certain conditions and a few games overheat you probably get people complaining that Stern is being cheap and not designing their games with good enough fans. If you put in a fan that will most likely handle any condition but that's a bit noisier you probably get complaints about the fans being noisy. So as a manufacturer I'd take the noise complaint over the chance of getting some complaints that some games are overheating because of cheap build quality.

Could there be a quieter fan that would still be as robust as the one they’re using? I’m sure there is but I’d guess Stern has reasons for what they’re using. I give them credit for acknowledging it in the video when they had no reason to. It’s not like there was a question posed in a forum that put him on the spot to answer. He addressed it in a produced video when they could just ignore it or say it’s not a big deal. Acknowledging issues or complaints isn’t something most companies in any industry do easily or frequently.

I couldn’t believe that game. He made playing pinball look really easy. His ability to stay out of danger was incredible. I don’t even recall seeing him do very many big moves or nudges to save the ball. I kept the rules sheet open on another screen while I watched to try to get more familiar with what was going on rules-wise too. Pretty cool game to watch.

Lol, $17 framed for that seems really good and I guess other people think so too. Site says out of stock now. Should look great with the machine!

That yellow t-molding looks good! Looks like a pretty good match to the yellow on the rest of the machine. Could you share a link to where you got the t-molding?

Then find a voting forum or start a new thread and post your announcement there. Man, some people's kids...

Ha, you just described me when I bought my first machine 2 years ago

Just got mine delivered! Big thanks to Kurt Hemispheres Amusements for another smooth buy and delivery!!! Haven’t played a game yet. Only had a chance to take a couple quick pics of different flipper colors. I’m leaning toward dark blue.

P.S. - New pinball machine smell beats new car smell any day!!!

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That could be good. I'll have to give it a try!!!

Ditto...

...And ditto again. Got mine today (born on date 10/6) and played a bit tonight. Noticed my skill shot and Hawkeye shots weren’t registering. Switch diagnostics menu showed a square lit around the inner loop opto switch when there shouldn’t be one (next to the right ramp exit opto in the pic).

I took off a wireform to take pics. The receiver under the plastic next to the gauntlet ramp doesn’t have a red light on. The emitter does show light coming from it though. The same part for the gauntlet ramp exit does have a red light on. So it looks like the receiver isn’t working for some reason.

Bummer, but in looking at the way it’s wired under the playfield my fingers are crossed that it’s just a plug and play solution. It looks like they have connectors so maybe no soldering required.

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I've got balls occasionally falling of this wire the same way. I'm going to give your fix a try.

Also, I'll be curious to hear what others are setting the pitch at. With leg levelers all the way in, mine was playing at 6.4. I upped it to 6.7, but immediately started getting rejects on the left ramp because the ball was hopping up and hitting the plastic cover at the very top of the ramp. I dialed it back down to 6.5 and it was great again. I didn't try any adjustment to flipper power though.

I haven't had any issue hitting the Captain Marvel ramp. I've only played a few games, but overall I'm really happy with the machine. I think it looks great, sounds great, and I really like the shot layout and flow. The portal, Avengers tower, Captain Marvel, and repeating gauntlet ramp shots are all fun to hit. Just need to get my inner loop opto fixed but I think that should be taken care of quickly.

Switch number is 59 I think. Thanks but yeah I checked all that, including covering it with my finger and slowly rolling a ball past it. In the picture I posted of the switch test the right ramp exit switch is also on the same screen. So the inner loop switch should show up on that diagnostic screen the same way as the right ramp exit switch but instead it's showing different it's not receiving a beam.

The main issue seems to be indicated by the red led on the opto receiver board not being lit like it is for the identical parts on other optos in the game, such as the gauntlet ramp exit opto. You're correct that there isn't a beam shooting out of the receiver, but on the board itself is a small red led. That led being out seems to signal the receiver board isn't working for some reason.

I checked under the playfield also. They have really nice tags on the wiring now that show which connectors are for the inner loop optos. I pushed on the connectors and wiggled the wires a bit and still no led on the receiver board. This morning I pushed on and wiggled CN12 on node board 9 where the optos connect and still nothing.

Okay, that's definitely worth checking. I was thinking the led was an indicator the board was functioning. If it's just an indicator that the beam isn't being received then it could be an alignment issue. Thanks!

I got them from Titan. Lol, so I guess that's pretty fitting since this game features Thanos the Titan

Full disclosure though, I changed back to the stock black because the Titans seemed too bouncy for my liking. I'd never used them before, but to me in playing a couple games I thought they seemed a lot bouncier than standard rubber. Maybe they calm down after some breaking in, I don't know. It's a bummer because I really liked the color.

Maybe I'm missing it somewhere, but I'm not seeing standard flipper rubber offered anywhere in anything other than red or black.

Yeah, those were the ones I ordered. The Low Bounce Standard. Maybe I'll put them back on and try them out a bit longer to see if my thoughts change.

Does anyone have information on sounds settings on the LE to get the best sound? I have no idea what I'm doing when it comes to the different sound frequency, gain, filter, etc. settings.

For JP2, someone posted the settings they were using and I remember changing mine to those settings and being absolutely blown away by how much better it sounded. If anyone has ideas on optimal settings for this one that would be great.

After playing for a few minutes again this afternoon I realized I wanted to try it set up a little faster, so I went back up on the pitch to 6.9 by the flippers, and on mine that's 6.8 up by the disc. I just played it for about an hour and I was really, really happy with it and all shots were still smooth. I don't know why I got some rejects at the left ramp when I first tried 6.7 but it seems all good now.

Also, I put the blue Titans back on and played for about an hour and loved it! I think the lower pitch was causing a lot of the bouncy/floaty action I wasn't happy with before. Now with it up at 6.9 I'm liking them a lot.

So far no issues with my subway or disc. I made the very slight adjustment to the left return wire and had zero balls off the rail in an hour of play. Took about 5 minutest to do from start to finish.

I'm really loving this game a ton, and I'm sure it will still get even better as I learn the rules more. The flow from shot to shot to shot is amazing and the shots are a lot of fun!!! What I'm really liking about the game is all the different choices you have for each shot. It seems like each time the ball goes to a lower flipper you have at least 3 good options to go after. I think it's going to be fun figuring out different ways of scoring and progressing in the game from all the choices available. Should keep the game interesting to keep around too.

One code request if anyone from Stern is reading. I had both Mystery and Change Gems lit at the Pym hole. I hit the hole, changed my gems, and then mystery awarded me... light Change Gems. But I just did that. Maybe remove that as a mystery award if change gems and mystery were lit at the same time? Okay, time to go play some more!

Really fun mode, and definitely great practice!!!

Yep same here. I put a couple fiber washers under that spot on the right so the end of the guide is off the playfield. I’d like to do the same thing to the guide on the left side of the captive ball that doubles as the right side entrance to the Marvel ramp.

I don’t see a screw under the playfield to loosen that left side one though. It seems like it doesn’t go through the playfield, so I can’t just loosen it enough to sneak a washer under it like the other spot. Looks like the whole Marvel ramp would have to come off. Here are pics of the right side where I put the washers and the left side where I want to put them but can’t figure out an easy way to get at it.

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I haven't noticed fade on my JP even after playing for 90 minutes. On Avengers I am noticing some fade after about 45 minutes to an hour. I don't think it's a lot of fade, but I think the steeper ramps on Avengers make it noticeable. On mine it seems more noticeable on shots up the left ramp from the right flipper. Still playable though.

I don’t think it’s by design. I haven’t had trouble with the Marvel ramp from a cradle on mine. I’ve had pitch up to 6.8/6.9 and down at 6.5 and haven’t had trouble with it. Flipper is max power on mine too.

I haven't looked at the color spring on mine, but it's not weak at all. It easily gets the ball around the ramp to the right flipper on the plunge.

Is there a good order to play the gems in for strategy? Looking at the rules sheet, it seems like maybe going for power gem, getting it, and putting it at the drop targets to go for the time gem would be good. Any other ideas like that out there?

Lol, I was thinking about doing this intentionally to prevent SDTM drains from the Avengers tower That's been getting me a lot during multiball when I don't realize one's about to be released from there. It's also got me a couple times when I took a second to catch my breath after Soul Gem. I'm happy I won the mode and then suddenly the next thing I know the ball is released and draining while I relaxed for a second.

Hope you can get the flipper re-adjusted okay.

I’m not sure about the disc, but here’s a link to a post that will most likely solve the issue with the ball guide. I had the same problem and this did the trick. Only took about five minutes to do. It’s easy to take the rail off, and then you just need to use pliers to very, very slightly bend the very end of the upper rail so that when you’re done the end of it is pointing pretty much parallel in line with the two lower rails the ball travels on as they cross the play field. Probably best to use a towel or something to protect the rail from the pliers. Here’s a picture of an overhead view on mine when I was done.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/official-avengers-infinity-quest-owners-thread-pinsiders-assemble/page/22#post-5899526

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Mine has worked well overall at catching the ball but definitely could use a little bit of improvement. By far most good shots get caught on mine but some do bounce back from the top without being caught. Last night I had two instances where I hit the final Soul Gem shot to the top of the tower, but the tower didn't hold it. Each time it happened the insert for the final shot went out and the ability to hit the shot again was gone. I sent in a bug report when it first happened to me about a week ago. I'd be surprised if they don't get it sorted out in a code update.

Nice! Looks like a lot of great stuff in the update. Ball save from Tower drop will be nice, and fixing the final Soul Gem shot is great. Looks like lots of other good stuff in there too. Can't wait to load it and play!!!

Yep I’m really liking this code update. Lots of really great stuff. I like the new ball save from the tower, but it just ended my Space Gem quest.

I’d hit an arc reactor shot during Space Gem and the ball save lit so I didn’t flip when it came down because I figured I’d use ball save instead of possibly bricking a shot at the upper flipper and draining. The ball went SDTM and ball save kicked in, but the gem quest ended like it does on any other drain.

I had assumed the gem quest would continue with ball save. I don’t know if it’s what they intended with it, but thought I’d post to let people know so they don’t get the same surprise.

Overall really fun game to play, such smooth and fun shots and this update rocks!!!

I just had a really fun game and something happened that I'm not positive why it happened, but it was really awesome. I played the Reality Gem quest after powering up the Avengers and getting the Soul Stone and I was in multiball for all of the Reality quest starting out with portal locks, but I had Iron Man MB also ready to go with 2 locks before starting it (and yes that Iron Man light show is really great). I brought in Iron Man and kept 4 or 5 balls going for a long time and it was amazing sensory overload with lights going crazy as balls chased each other from shot to shot. Then suddenly the game just started pulsing the shaker and it immediately felt like something huge was available, but I didn't know why it was happening. The only thing lit seemed to be the disc and the screen text said Super Disc when I glanced up. So I don't know if Super Disc was causing the pulsing on the shaker but it was really, really cool especially while still playing 3 balls with lights flashing everywhere and trying to figure out what the heck was happening. Anyone know what that pulsing was for?

I know this is going to sound like fanboy over the top praise, but I'm not exaggerating when I say that game I just played was the most fun & exciting game of pinball I've ever played, although I don't have a ton of experience. I got one gem, powered up all Avengers, then got the Soul gem & Reality gem on ball 1. The lights and sounds of that mega multiball during Reality were already amazing and then the shaker pulsing with three balls still going suddenly ramped the action factor up to 12 out of 10. Really great stuff.

I watched an IEpinball stream of the game on Twitch from about a week ago. Watching that really helped it click with me about how to think about the rules and what to go for first. Definitely worth watching it to hear him discuss his approach about what order to go after things and then see how it works when he blows up the Reality Gem quest. The game he starts at about the 47 minute mark is a big one.

I think a big part of the fun of this game is going to be learning how to use the gems to your advantage. For example, the Readme file for yesterday's code update mentioned fixing an issue with Soul Gem where the Mind Gem on the drop targets wasn't spotting the shot. I hadn't even realized that could be done and it seemed great because the hardest thing about Soul Gem for me has been clearing the three drop targets.

So I played last night going for Mind Gem first and placing it on the drop targets. It was amazing to get that shot spotted for me in Soul Gem so I could just move on to the next one.

During one game I missed the shot at the drops and accidentally placed the Mind Gem on Hulk. But then right as the portal opened for Soul Gem I noticed "Change Gems" was lit at Ant Man. So I hit into the Ant Man hole and moved the Mind Gem to the drops so I was able to use it to spot that shot for Soul Gem. I'm guessing there's a lot of fun stuff like that to be discovered in this game.

Right on! I'm the same way. I think you hit the nail on the head with the word "immersed". Before watching that stream I was just shooting at the lights and moving from quest to quest, and it's still a lot of fun with the variety of smooth shots and combos out the wazoo. But playing now the last two nights (and especially last night) with more of an idea about how things work and are connected I've really felt more immersed in the game and it's taken the fun to another level for me.

I hadn't noticed that but I just turned mine on to check it out. Mine showed the same number as my plaque.

Yep, I had that one happen last night too. Ball save from drops awarded but quest being played ended. Hopefully they fix it so a quest doesn’t end if your ball doesn’t end.

On mine it was falling off right before the curve at the VUK, but adjusting the 3rd rail at the end of the wireform solved it. Even though the problem was further up the rail, the ball wasn't falling off immediately and was instead falling off on the other side of the playfield. That's where taking video and checking out the path of the ball leading up to and at at each place where you have an issue will help you figure out where an adjustment needs to be made to fix it. You might need to bend it a bit more, but you would likely be able to confirm what's going on if you take video and review it.

Thought I'd try again to see if anyone has suggestions on the LE speaker settings. Any ideas as to what ohm, fade, gain, etc. settings give the best sound?

In the Mind Gem quest, hitting any Avenger shot and then spinning the disc progresses the quest. But the game calls out a specific Avenger during the quest. Is there any scoring advantage to hitting that specific Avenger instead of the others?

For using the gems, they have greater power depending on the level of the Avenger they're placed on. It looks like 5 out of the 6 possible gem locations are on an Avenger that can be leveled up, so when a gem is placed on the computer grid (Vision) is it just limited to only having its base power or am I missing a way to use a higher level gem power at Vision?

Yep, I think even just by glancing at the layout it's evident that can be a potentially dangerous exit spot at any pitch even if the machine is level.

I started hitting the Captain America shot pretty pure last night and had the ball really whipping the other direction out of Hulk pretty fast a few times. That got a bit hairy too.

Haven't had wear at Ant Man yet but I'd think a little bit of mylar on the rim of it would do the trick pretty easily. Similar to protecting a shooter lane.

Just my thoughts, but I think it's nice to have a ball lock that isn't taking up room on the playfield so it maybe allows for more room to work with in the shot designs on the playfield. And if you're going to have a ball lock underground, why not maybe try to liven it up and innovate a bit with a mech that lets you see balls progress through it?

I'm guessing its a fine line designers have to walk between using the same old mechs vs. taking a bit of a risk in developing a new one to keep things interesting. And probably no matter what route they choose probably 1/2 of people will wish it were different somehow. Unfortunately that sometimes will mean there are issues with the new mech. I'd bet on them being able to resolve the issues on this one though.

Yep, same thing has happened to me a couple times in multiball where two balls get together between two fingers in the subway and the game loses track of them, then I drain and it takes a few cycles of ball search to find it. The balls get kicked apart from each other and then they march toward the VUK to come into play. I haven't seen it actually happen to notice if it's an issue with a ball scooting around a finger or a timing thing. Happened again last night too.

I'm really, really having fun playing this game. Had a game last night where I got 5 gems and over 500M. Brought 2 portal locks into at least two of the quests and had the Soul Gem early too but screwed up my shots trying to collect any Soul Gem jackpots or my score would have been a lot more. It's a lot of fun deciding where to put gems based on what you've already got and what you're thinking about going for next. And don't even get me started about how great it feels to shoot so many smooth 3 and 4 shot combos during a game.

Ha! I have STTNG also and as soon as I read your post I could hear the similarity in my head. Now I probably won't be able to play either machine without it coming to mind. As soon as I hear Worf's voice in STTNG I'll think "trophy collected"!

Sounds good, thanks. Maybe using washers to shim the angle of the subway a little bit one way or the other might work to prevent the ball from scooting around it? I thought I remember someone posting about trying something like awhile ago. Could be worth a try.

Which way did it roll around the finger (above it or below it from the player's view)? This might not be ideal of course, but could small cabinet bumpers that we use to prevent stuck balls be put there to force the ball to roll against the finger and stop instead of going around? Just an idea.

I have JP2 and I'm not feeling much similarity between it and AIQ, and I mean that as a really good thing. I think they're both great and I definitely feel like they're two different games to play.

Overall I think the main (gem quests/paddocks) and other modes in both games feel pretty different in the pattern of shots required, and the different layouts of the games just helps distinguish them from each other even more. For me having those two side by side makes for good variety on two smooth shooting & great flowing games. Multiballs in any game are mostly going to be 1 shoot shots, 2 collect jackpot, 3 collect super jackpot so I think it's going to seem like there's a familiar feeling about multiball in any game. But for the main modes and the wizard modes I'm not feeling much similarity.

I can't speak to a Deadpool/AIQ comparison though because I've only played a couple games of Deadpool and that was a couple years ago.

This was a fun one last night! Never say never, but I don’t see myself coming very close to this again for awhile. Felt like I caught lightning in a bottle.

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I haven't been able to actually accomplish this yet, but with Black Panther (and some other Avengers) scoring 2x on their shot when they're at Level 2 it seems like you could put the Soul Stone there and then any Soul Stone jackpot should be worth pretty big points. Leveling up Captain America to 2x scoring could probably be pretty big for Black Order Multiball super jackpots too.

I guess with the structure of the game it seems like ideally you might want to level up all Avengers first, get the Soul Stone, and then collect all the gems and Soul Stone jackpots, but I don't know for sure. Just my interpretation of it so far.

I think the issue is that changing a drain to only decrease health would mean you wouldn't be able to lose the quest, since currently the only way you can lose the quest is to drain. I think your health bar only determines your bonus for the quest. The more health you have left the bigger bonus you get. Zero health remaining only means zero bonus for the quest, and you can still win the quest with zero health remaining.

So it's a design choice they went with to say the value of wining the gem merits a drain being a big risk.

Yep, and I think what they did with the rules was a bit generous even. The only way to lose the gem quest is by draining. There aren't any negative shots to avoid and there isn't a timer. In a lot of games the main modes end on a drain and in addition to that some will also have timers or negative shots to end the mode, so this doesn't seem that unusual.

If the gem quest were changed to make it so you lose by getting to zero health it would essentially turn it into a timed mode and I think that's what they were trying to avoid in order to give players as much chance as possible to win it. As long as you don't drain you're going to get a gem that has some pretty nice perks.

Sanctum target for the final shot.

Yep, it was pretty easy to align and very nice that all the screw points were open ended to align it. Just curious, what were the washers on the coil mech being used for on yours? What were they correcting/aligning?

I tried getting a washer under that Ant Man ball guide, but I didn't see a nut under the playfield to loosen so I couldn't lift the end of the guide enough to get one in there. I pried up the end of the guide a bit so I could slide a thin strip of mylar under it for now, but I'd like to get a washer there instead. It didn't seem like that screw (or whatever it is) at the end of the ball guide goes through the playfield though. Is there a way to raise it to get a washer under that one? Does it just lift out?

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I've been playing pretty much the same as you from the start with the tower skill shot and going for combos to get a portal lock, and then bringing in Thor or IM to help out. The first quest I usually play is the Mind Gem. I seem to end up playing the Soul Gem mode after 1 or 2 gem quests, so I like to go after Mind Gem first and place it on the drops so I can get that shot spotted during the Soul Gem mode. After that, if I have one or two portal locks ready and Thor or IM close to ready then I'll go after the Reality Gem. I've had some (I think) pretty good scores in Reality (90M & 130M) by starting it with 2 portal locks and then bringing in IM. It gets pretty fun getting it up to 6 balls and keeping it going. The lights flashing constantly from hitting all the shots is pretty great.

When I get the Soul Gem my idea is to put it on the Black Widow ramp to make it easy to collect Soul Gem jackpots, but I haven't been able to do that very well because I keep draining before collecting the jackpot. I have a hard time getting the ball under control at the flippers after it releases from the post. If I don't flip it's SDTM and if I miss the inner loop it gets out of control. I like the idea of just nudging as it comes down from there. I'm going to give that a try.

I still want to experiment more with different gem locations for different modes. Seems like the Reality gem on Captain America could be good for jackpots in Black Order multiball or in the Hulk lane for gamma jackpots. It's been really fun getting into this game.

I tried this a couple days ago and for some reason it didn't work for me. I must have done it wrong though. I placed Mind gem on Black Widow and got her to level 1 or 2. I was going to use it on the drops and Marvel in Soul Gem mode, but when I went to use it for some reason it wasn't available and had no uses left showing even though I hadn't used it yet. I'll have to try it again.

Nice! One thing I'm not clear on is using the Space gem and powering up gems. Let's say you put the Mind gem in one location and use it up. Then you get the Space gem and move the Mind gem to a different location. Do you now just need to hit the shot at the new Mind gem location to power it back up and use it again?

If so, then could you maybe use the Mind gem to help with the Time gem quest, then move the Mind gem and power it up at a different location to get it to Level 1 and use it again on a couple shots in Soul gem mode?

There's no sequence to the lights on Sanctum. Whatever has been qualified/earned lights up. Spot Iron is lit when you hit the Ant Man hole.

Love the ball save fixes!!!

Wow, that two flip Soul Gem mode and the game he played later and used the gems for huge points were really cool. Amazing to use the gems to do all that!!!

On Twitch it's under "iepinball". It's his video from 2 days ago called "AIQ Soul Gem Runs". Here's a link to the iepinball Twitch page:

https://www.twitch.tv/iepinball

I think there's a very simple explanation for the delivery. Dr. Strange sent it to you through a portal.

I wish they would have made that inlane light an RGB so it would blink green.

I haven't had any issue with the walker in the new code. I installed it pretty soon after it was released and I've played a few hours on the new code now.

Overall, since I adjusted my walker last Sunday I played 5 hours that day and 1 to 2 hours per day every other day this week (including today) and all balls are moving through it the way they're supposed to. I've had had zero issues with multiple balls between fingers or fingers getting stuck.

Not sure what you're referring to here. The last finger doesn't hit the ball up to the scoop. That finger is just supposed to lower so the ball rolls past it and then the ball just rolls into the VUK. If the last finger isn't lowering enough for the ball to go past then it could be an alignment issue. If the ball is rolling past the finger but not making it to the VUK, then it could be because just past the last finger balls have sometimes been hanging up at the end of the center channel that the fingers poke up through because there's no taper at the end of that channel.

Gravity is doing all the work to move the balls in the mech though. When a finger lowers the ball is just supposed to roll past it to the next finger or into the VUK if it's going past the last finger. Once it's in the VUK then it's popped up to the wire.

If you haven't tried testing the walker mech in the Subway Lock Test menu item under Diagnostics then it might be worth a try so you can see how/where it's not working correctly. That test walks the ball through the locks from start to finish so you can see how everything is working and where a problem area might be. All you have to do is enter Subway Lock Test, pull out the interlock switch, and drop a ball into the open disc and watch it progress through the lock spots. You'll be able to see how well the fingers are aligned in the center channel as they go up and down and if the mech acts up you'll have a chance to see where it's acting up.

Doing that test and checking alignment is at least worth a try if you're having issues, especially since tweaking the alignment only requires lifting the playfield up, loosening the nuts on the metal frame of the mech, slightly changing alignment, and re-tightening the nuts. When I adjusted mine last week I thought I had it at first but then when I started playing again a couple fingers were sticking so I just did another quick re-alignment.

There are three metal fingers that should usually be up to hold balls. There is a lever under those fingers that holds them up. If that lever is stuck so that it's not holding the fingers up, then nothing will be there to stop the ball. Have you lifted the playfield to see if the lever that pushes up against the three fingers is stuck? The lever is connected directly to the plunger for the coil on the mech.

Yep, it looks like they made some progress on the issue by cutting the bottom of the Avengers guides so a lot of the guide isn't touching the playfield now. But they need to put washers around the apron screws and any screws that are near the end of a ball guide. Those are the spots that still tend to scratch when they're cranked down too tight.

Here's how it works when it's not on "pass-through": Hit enough combos before spinning the disc to spell STRANGE and you'll get a portal lock (green arrow flashing at the disc). That will hold the ball in the subway as a physical lock. You can get up to two portal locks for a gem quest. Then spin the disc to spell STRANGE to open the portal for a gem quest (purple arrow flashing at the disc), hit it in, and now you'll have a 2 or 3 ball multiball to start the gem quest.

I could be wrong, but my understanding from Jurassic Park is that the actual part they used as a bumper to protect pieces behind the back panel from getting broken against the back of the cabinet was a handle that Stern already had in their parts inventory. So even though they used that same part as a bumper in JP, in the JP manual it's listed as "handle" because in their existing parts database that's the name and number of the part they used.

It can definitely be handy to use it as a handle to lift the playfield also, but I don't think it's a change in design where you'll see it in all games. I think it'll only show up in games where they want to use that particular part as a bumper/protector behind the backboard.

Mine's the same. Titan low bounce. I'm guessing anything is going to be showing wear on that spot though with all the direct hits it takes. I'm constantly hitting it when I miss the Hulk or Tower shots.

Raymond Davidson answered it on a stream saying not having a post there was a design choice by KME.

I was responding to Scribble's post in reference to what Heyitsjoebob wrote about not having a post at the tip of the upper flipper. Not having a post at the tip of the upper flipper is what Raymond Davidson said was a design choice.

Hold in both flipper buttons for a couple seconds and the screen will bring up a menu for which setting to play. Use the flipper button to toggle it to Challenge Mode and hit start, then you'll be in Battle Royale.

When I get into Super Disc the game seems to get caught in an unending loop where the shaker makes the disc move just a fraction so the game registers a very small (25K-100K) Super Disc award. That award causes the shaker to go off again, which causes the disc to move slightly again, which causes another small award, which causes the shaker to go off, which causes....

And it doesn't seem to stop. Anyone else experiencing this? I'm guessing there isn't any adjustment for it and the only thing they could do would be to change code so Super Disc doesn't give points for very small movements of the disc.

It seems like with the way the ramp is designed it can make shots that weren't quite good enough look like they should have been good enough and got unfairly rejected. I think it's just that some shots that aren't good enough look a bit deceiving. With how close the ramp is and the shape of the ramp a shot that isn't good enough can still go a pretty far ways up it or go a bit up and rattle a bit and then come back.

On mine I can hit good shots smoothly through the ramp pretty consistently. But there are also a decent number that end up looking like they were good because they go a ways up and then come back down for some reason, and some also fall out the back of the wire sometimes too. As long as I'm able to get good shots through it fairly consistently, then when one occasionally fails I just chalk it up to the shot looking good but not really being good enough. I think it's just a bit of a tougher ramp to make that what it seems like. And yes a shot coming back at you off that ramp is a big risk to go SDTM.

Here’s an idea: Try testing it by removing the inner loop opto bracket using your hand to block it and see if it registers correctly in switch test. It’s easy to remove. Then with it still removed flip the flippers and see whether or not it registers. If you test it like this and there’s no issue, then I think the problem will likely be due to vibration moving the opto bracket just enough to make it register, so you might try shimming the bracket with washers to see if that moves them to a height where vibration won’t make them register.

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Where a ball coming back down from the right orbit goes will depend on how fast it’s moving and whether or not there’s any spin on it. On mine, balls that go more than 1/2 the way up the orbit and come back just graze the rubber and bounce to the left flipper. Any ball coming back from less than about 1/2 way I know I need to nudge or it’s probably draining.

On mine the tower release usually goes SDTM if I don’t nudge or get it with a flipper.

Yep, I'm really loving the game and it's really clicked with me even more this past week (switching back to standard rubber really helped me) but this is still the one part of it that's a bit frustrating for me. I lose a lot of balls SDTM rolling past the upper flipper in multiball too.

For this you don't want the Avenger fully powered up. If you fully power up the Avenger to Level 2 then the Mind gem only gives you one use (although that use is a big boom that works on all active shots on the playfield). If the Avenger where the Mind gem is placed is at Level 1 then you get 3 uses of the Mind gem for a single active shot anywhere on the playfield. And I think the Avenger has to already be at Level 1 when you place the mind gem there, otherwise it will only have its base power which only works on the shot where the gem is located.

Once per Soul gem mode the Flank Attack shot (up the orbit and over the star rollover target) will count towards hitting whatever shot is currently active. Works for whichever shot is active at the time unless it's the final shot to the tower.

Yep, when I first got my game I identified those same spots and the screws under the apron as most likely trouble spots for this issue. I was able to get washers under the right hand side of the captive ball and the apron, but initially missed the location of the Ant Man nut until you pointed me to it a couple weeks ago. I put a couple fiber washers stacked up under there now though.

I still can't find a nut under the playfield to loosen the left side of the captive ball and sneak a washer under there. Am I missing the nut there also for some reason? It seems like whatever post is at the end of the guide on that side isn't going through the playfield though. It's definitely a spot I'd like to put a washer under but I really don't want to have to remove the entire Marvel ramp to lift the guide and do it.

Yep, and they did seem to learn some lessons from JP2 to AIQ by cutting the bottoms of the ball guides so that in most spots the bottom of the guide is no longer touching the playfield. Even at the left side of the entrance to the Hulk spinner the bottom of the guide is cut at the end so it's off the playfield, so that was definitely a step in the right direction. All they need to do now for a next step is identify spots like the Ant Man guide and the captive ball guides to see where there's a screw near the end of the guide that will make the guide dig into the playfield and put a washer there. That seems like it will resolve pretty much any remaining issues of playfield scraping. Looks like from the posting above they started to do that now at the Ant Man hole, so fingers crossed they'll start to do this proactively now.

It's cosmetic. It's not like an issue with a mech where it impacts game play, unless a chip develops in the path of the ball.

But while it doesn't impact game play it can lead to noticeable eyesores in the artwork around the playfield. Part of the enjoyment of a machine and part of a determination of the condition of a machine is the artwork, and part of the enjoyment & value of any item involves the condition of the item. If you have a couple of old bicycles to pick from and one has a bunch of scratches and chipped paint while the other is in better condition, the one in better condition is the one most people would choose because it's more appealing (and therefore it has held its value better). If a machine ends up with a bunch of chipped and scraped spots in the art around the playfield, it comes across as not being as appealing to the current owner for aesthetic or resale value purposes. So there's an element of seeing an eyesore while you're playing and an element of losing resale value due to condition.

Mechanical stuff can be adjusted or replaced to put the machine into great condition. Artwork can't be repaired nearly as easily, so if there's a choice between having a mechanical issue to resolve vs. an issue with artwork or playfield I'll take the mechanical issue every time. Just my opinion though.

That I wouldn't know. I'd guess that it would be case by case discussion on an individual basis through your distributor and Stern.

After my experiences with POTC, JP2, and now AIQ it seems like it's just natural that there are going to be some mechanical or fitment issues that will pop up on machines (POTC was far worse for me than JP2 or AIQ). It would definitely be nice if some of the things that seem obvious like the level of the disc were noticed before they ship, but as long as they do a good job issuing adjustments and fixes when necessary then I'm good with it and so far they seem to be addressing any issues that are popping up pretty well. It seems like they're moving in the right direction on playfield issues too.