I’m usually fine with a pro model, but the features in the premium are why I wanted it, without them I wouldn’t have wanted an Avengers. I’ll get it all sorted out and will play the shit out it, I’m just more in the play stage of pinball then have to fuck with a game to get it to work.

I don't miss the scoop, actually prefer the pro play with fast target return and no waiting on balls going through the subway. Changing gems does take one extra step on the pro (hit antman then the potbelly ramp to stop the ball while changing) but that's not a big deal. The ball stops often enough on the pro I don't feel the scoop is needed.

Yep, everyone is different. I went premium on Maiden due to the art and mummy lock, but really don't care for the extra mode (madness) and will disable it eventually. Got lucky that none of the orbs have ever given me issues and mummy only needed a wire resoldered once. For JP I went pro as there were too many issues with the dino and I wanted to play, not fix. Bad first impression - I broke the dino on the first JP Prem I played at Expo '19

I can always upgrade later on either / both if I want to.

For those that don't want the headache or delay of the subway/spinner mechs. you can disable the rising spinner. I believe it then works more like a Pro.(this is what is required for the AIQ Pinclash if you have a Prem.) but you still have the CM ramp to shoot. Maybe the best for both worlds for some? I don't have any issues and I'd still be frustrated on buying a feature you can't use reliably.

I posted pictures showing that the last finger in the subway is not raising because it is getting stuck between the long rod on the bottom connecting to all the fingers and the side of the mechanism. The updated subway walk mechanism works great for me. It has welds that are not as thick and it appears harder for the finger to get wedged between the side and the rod. You can search on my user name and find the post from a month or two ago.

Someone also made a 3D "fix" and provided the file that goes beneath the coil and gently pushes the rod over so that it cannot get out of position and allow the finger to get jammed between the rod and side.

To make sure I understand: you mean while trying to collect the mind gem, during battling for the mind gem?

Stern is sending me another mech so I'm hoping mine has the better welds like you noted. Unfortunately, he did say that engineering isn't doing any redesigns right now, and the fact that the replacement mech was bad as well means it could fail at any time which is a little disappointing. I'll try to find that post about the 3d printed fix as well - that sounds interesting and maybe a good first print for me to try once I get the bed on my 3d printer leveled properly... (it's a bit frustrating overall LOL).

I got a replacement mech from Stern to fix the finger getting stuck beside the actuator bar, and the first game I played with the new subway the middle weld broke.

I'm back on my sloppy mech with my 3d printed fix, which works every time.

if this has already been discussed and if someone can point me in the right direction to earlier in the thread, most appreciated. Does anyone else have any issues when starting gem quests on the pro where the ball doesn't fall and hold with the post? Mine seems to fall and stay there to start the mode properly only about 50% of the time - so quite often I'm having to start my mode with the ball not falling to the left and holding properly - instead it falls to the right, back into the playfield. The ball drop from the ramp seems to be positioned correctly and the game is perfectly levelled. Anyone else with a pro have this issue?

I'm probably at like 90+% success rate, it has slowly been getting worse since I got it. I think Im gonna do some slow-mo video to see how the ball bounces around as it exits the wireform to see what needs to be done. I suspect I need to move the exit hole slightly to the back and right, or twist the wireform slightly so the ball falls out cleanly but I think the slow-mo video will show it more clearly.

Take a look at the one way gate next to it to see if bending that down a little helps.

A super slight adjustment to the wire form to move where the ball drops can make a big difference in whether it bounces slightly off the ball guide and rolls around the post or if it lands and gets trapped by the post.

I'm still trying to figure out how to maximize the usage of gems, but on this approach I went to collect Mind, Reality, Space, Time in that order and it turned out pretty well. That is the extent of my strategery...

Correct, too brief of an extra ball. Wasted that one big time.

I just got my avengers premium. Everytime I hit the right center gauntlet ramp my ball will loop around and fly off the rails. Anyone else have this issue and fix? I’m thinking I may need to bend in the beginning top right portion of the rail.

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Is the Thor figure too close to the rail, ball bumping into him?

Hate when that happens - which of course is more often than I would like! Worse when it's your last ball and you have everything ready...

My kitten decided to show me how easy it is to defeat Thanos by destroying the printout of the rules...

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Sweet SGJP! I’m guessing….a nice 3 ball reality gem cashed in with the soul gem on a boosted CM? Am I close?

You are dead on!

FEB build premium. No issues with disc or lock.

Iron Man lock magnet on the other hand has blown a node board and the power distribution board.

It was the simplest way I could think of….plus that’s how I got my own biggest SGJP (although it was under 300m).

So I cut my best battle royale time in half last night, thought this was pretty darn good! 3:23

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Great job!

I've learned a few "tricks" to improve scoring and reduce time in Battle Royale Challenge...

Wasp will double points and damage
Spin the Disk for Eye of Agamotto to light a shot worth 4x points/damage
Shoot the mini (Hawkeye) loop to light 3x points/damage shots

Any of you have Deadpool and Avengers, i'm debating a trade of Avengers with Deadpool, both pro versions

I just did a temporary trade with a friend, swapping IMDN (pro) for Deadpool (pro), just to mix things up a bit. I have an AIQ LE (not pro), but I find it's way more fun than Deadpool. I like Deadpool, the callouts are funny and it's pretty easy, but the depth isn't quite there. It's a good change of pace game, but there's more of a variety of shots and definitely a lot more strategy in AIQ. Overall, I think it's just a better game.

I have AIQ premium and DP pro, shots are way more forgiving and the family play factor way higher on DP. It is a nice change of pace but I wouldn’t give up AIQ for it. If you find AIQ too difficult I would say stick it out, it will make you play better!

I have both AIQ Premium and Deadpool Pro (along with others Machines) and I love them both!
The art and gameplay is outstanding on both. Both are quite deep with AIQ more freely giving extra balls out with standard settings. Flow is better on AIQ, but DP also has some unique shots.
Deadpool is very much the opposite of AIQ in that AIQ is more foreboding and a darker overall feel to it. Deadpool is all around fun, high spirited, fantastic original music with funny callouts. Hard to say which is my favorite... currently play AIQ more, but I've had DP a year longer. I haven't played AIQ Pro to compare...

Hi all. I have a Pro. Anyone have some good hacks for wiping/waxing the hard-to-reach parts of the playfield without having to do a major tear down? I'm thinking specifically about the back part of the launch path since launch success is so temperamental on this machine. Thanks.

I use a chopstick, ghetto right?

Someone please change the music with pinball browser for me! I’ll pay you!

If you pull the playfield forward it's a little easier. I roll the towel up and slide it through that back area and do the same on the hulk shot and the covered portions of the ramps, etc.

Thanks. My best so far is a towel wrapped around a big plastic thingy that goes in a fancy tropical mixed drink. It's flexible enough to go around bends and you can apply some pressure.

Thanks, yes, ive read that can be a long play game DP, just wait if someone can give some inputs PRO vs PRO.

Yes i find dificult, but thats why i like it... love challeging games.

Sounds a lot of love also for the DP

Can honestly not understand the excessive love for DP - DP no.6 and AIQ no. 13 on Pinside top100! Should be reversed IMO. In fact AIQ should be easily within the top 5 imo.

Only place Dp wins (and wins easily) is personality and music. The rest is not even close.

That!

Deadpool premium was my first pin. Ive owned aiq premium and le now. I get why deadpool is higher. First off its a very straight forward game vs aiq with very complicated rules. For some thats a turn off.

Both have amazing art, but callouts, sounds, etc are better on DP. Layout wise AIQ has a ton more going on and is more interesting. But that katana shot and snkkt shot is like nothing else and feels great.

Tough for me to decide but I can see why people have so much love for DP.

I have had an AIQ LE since Oct 2020. Also have a JP Pre. Recently got a DP Pre. To round it out, I have AFMR and MonsterBash Remake. The two remakes were up at our summer home and the for quite some time I just had JP and AIQ at home. It was brutal. I am an ok player, but switching between JP and AIQ was just two different forms of getting my ass handed to me game after game. So when I got the DP about a month ago, I also moved JP up north and brought AFMR home. So now the line ups each have an Elwin game and then an offset, “easier” game(s).

The point is, I think having DP, which is more straightforward, funny and an easy to follow rule set, has made playing AIQ more fun. I really like having them both together, and with AFMR in between, a great mix. I no longer get as riled up playing AIQ. Although they should add one of DP’s best callouts to AIQ/Thanos - “Must be hard…. Losin’ all the time.”

I love this game! I just got a pro a month ago after selling my JP:DE due to its simplicity and its like these games are complete opposites. Still getting my butt kicked sure, but crazy fun things happening for the first time like hitting Ironman multiball after two portal locks during the reality gem quest keep me coming back!

Anyone with the Stern Infinity Stone shooter rod find that it's a lot weaker than the original? Spring color looks to be the same, but I can barely get TO the ramp when plunging, let alone over it....! It even feels weaker just pulling it back.

I guess I can try what awesome1 said above and replace it with a red spring and see what happens. Or swap springs between the original...

Regarding the shooter itself, I was a little disappointed that the light isn't actually in the shooter. It makes sense though as I could never figure out how they were going to power it otherwise! Me being dumb.

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Just missed my high score by only 25 million... and didn't even get to Battle Thanos!
In my high score game I got 1 Billion for getting to Battle Thanos with all 6 Gems.
3 Ball, standard settings with default Extra Ball awards.

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The shooter rod does look cool!

Yeah, I would change to the original spring and upgrade to the Red if needed.

Make sure that external spring is not too long.
You may have to swap it with the one from the original shooter rod.
If its longer, the rod won't make as much contact with the ball.

Oh, didn't think to look at the outer spring. I'll check that, thanks!

Can you explain this strategy in more detail - i still haven't got my head around optimum placement of gems to max out scoring opportunities