I'm very happy with the Mezel mod - saw some comments about losing light on the playfield, but have had no issues whatsoever... Love it!

What size is the rubber for the spinning disc post? The manual only mentions the seven standard post sleeves. The disc post is definitely not the same as a standard post sleeve. There’s also no mention of the spinning disc post on the diagram.
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Just bend the top habitrail up a little, then there is enough clearance for the ball to pass through. (if you are talking about the trap i am thinking of that i had)

same issue on another game. some games it does not even list the post sizes or certain rubber rings. if you look at marco, there a few different sizes. you could order a few different sizes of the post and see what fits

Has anyone received a topper? I only found one video on youtube showing the topper and it didn't show the Gem Mania mode. I figured there would be unboxings and gameplay vids of the mode, by now.

I've had mine since Dec. So I'm sure they are out there. The mode is pretty cool but not a must have. At least not yet. You have to do well in it to get a lot of points out of it. Or at least I have not gotten a lot of points in it yet. It's a switch hit mode where jackpots light up at certain switch hit thresholds. I'm glad to have mine. It adds something to the game with the new mode. It can come into play if doing dollar games with friends or just something else to do. Progress toward the mode is saved between games. Which is a cool feature.

Picking up my pro tomorrow and I ordered a topper from JJ. Based on what I read, if you do well and collected all gems during the course of a game, you will get the mode.

I really like the topper and it adds to the overall game experience.

Official overview of topper :

Adjustments (only appear if the topper node 12 is connected):

“TOPPER ACTIVE IN ATTRACT MODE” – YES (Default) – topper light shows will play in attract mode / NO – topper lights will be static in attract mode (always on)

“TOPPER GEMS START MODE” – YES (Default)- turns on the ability to collect gems on the topper during the game (non-competition mode games only) / NO – topper gems cannot be collected and topper mode cannot be started

How to start the Topper Mode:

Collect all 6 gems featured on the topper during the course of normal gameplay. Each unlit gem you collect during your normal game will light up solid on the topper when collected. Once the 6th gem is collected, the mode will start right away before releasing the ball from the tower up post.

Topper Mode is Progressive:

Each gem you collect on the topper is progressive in that it carries over from game to game for all players. So whoever is lucky / skillful enough to collect the proper gem starts it. Once the mode is started, all topper gems are un-lit until the next time they are all lit again within the mode. When Gem mode ends the topper gems will be unlit until the player starts accumulating gems in regular gameplay again. Topper gems are also power tolerant, so they will carry over even if you power off your game.

Gem Mania mode name:

Features a dynamic randomly generated mode name! Could be Gem Mania, but also can be Stone Frenzy, Rock Craze, Elemental Delirium or more. Although the mode name is completely random, the mode itself has the same rules regardless of the name it gets.

Attract Mode:

– The dynamic name is used for the High Score Champion for Gem Mania
– There is also a topper page in the attract screens that says how many gems are left to collect before starting Gem Mania. When this page shows up in attract mode the topper gem lamps are flashed if they are yet to be collected and the ones that are currently collected are solidly lit.

Gem Mania Rules:

– 3 ball multiball
– 1M Points awarded for starting the mode
– All Arrows are lit White for a small Jackpot of 150K
– All Gems are initially un-lit, but can be lit up as switch thresholds are reached
– Switch threshold starts at 50 and then increments by 10 each as each Gem is lit and collected
– When Gem is lit, all Gem inserts light up on the shots (placed in topper order left to right)
– Shoot a lit Gem to collect the current Final Jackpot value at 1X, increment the X for the Final Jackpot, and restart the switch collecting phase for the next Gem
– Final Jackpot value starts at 5K and increments by 5K for each switch hit as the mode progresses
– If you drain down to one ball before collecting the 6th gem you have 10 seconds to shoot the Gauntlet Ramp to cash out your Final Jackpot at the current multiplier or the mode ends.
– Otherwise, collecting the 6th Gem cashes out the Final Jackpot and the flippers go dead until the balls are recovered and the mode ends.
– Up to three Add-A-Balls can be awarded by spelling out THOR at the captive ball

Guess they need to give Jack Danger or Ray or Karl a topper, so we can see it streamed.

Why, is Stern having a hard time selling toppers?

this is the part that I think should be removed, withtout this part of the rail a ball that comes off the Cpt M too soon will not get hung up here.

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Touche' LOL

I did some 3d Models for AiQ (testet on a pro).

Feel free to download, print and check if you like it

https://www.tinkercad.com/things/4jVHX0yo65q

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https://www.tinkercad.com/things/b946MB7wbQD

https://www.tinkercad.com/things/0X4G2tfPprR

https://www.tinkercad.com/things/aEu9Ckr7XZn

https://www.tinkercad.com/things/07xGOdo9scD

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Thank you so much for doing these, this is an amazing contribution and you are doing it for free and not like the other people who are gauging pinbalers for hundred of dollars for 3d printed stuff... good for you. Thank you.

Is the handle at the back so you can lift the table up and down when putting up for service?

I've never had a problem there - even before I added the Capt. Marvel "Lexan fix" piece. As others have mentioned, you can slightly bend the wireform crossing over the top upward so a ball will pass through if it ever gets up there. I have had some ricochets that put the ball in some weird places or even jumped up onto a wireform from the Sanctum shot, etc.

You are welcome. Yes, the handle is to lift the playfield. Stern didn't mount a handle there, but the threads are there. You just need some fitting round screws. I printed it with 50% Infill and petg material. Needs some support in the middle for printing. It is very stable, I think you could carry the whole playfield just with the handle

The little washers are to prevent playfield damage from metal digging in the print and chip. They have an open side, so you can push them in from the side without disassembling everything. Designed to snap just in place. Also printed with petg, you can use them on all these spots. Holding up quite well so far, but don't overtighten. Should fit on other machines as well. A very small but very helpful print I think

the washer is a great idea and yes I noticed how you left it open on the side. I wish I had seen this a week ago, lol, as I disassembled my entire PF to add two metal washers under there. I had to modify them too so they would fit, but they are in now...
I do not have a printer but maybe I will add one in the future, I think it will be fun. I will download your files and have them ready for the future!

Thank you so much! this is awesome.

Put up a decent score today and got 4 of the 6 gems and reached Black Order multiball for the first time in a month or so.

I can’t put my finger on why, but when I reach comparably difficult mini wizard/longer reaching goals like Horde on TWD, Team Up on TMNT 2M2M/Cyborg on IMDN or Destroy the Ring on LOTR, threes a sense of accomplishment with sound effects/music tracks/light shows exclusive to that mode and some kind of awareness you’re in a fairly difficult mode to get to.

Black Order is worth big points, but the music, sound effects etc...nothing is different and it doesn’t feel like an accomplishment to get there, when it should be, as you’re one set of Avengers away from getting to the final wizard mode, Battle Thanos.

I know this is a super minor complaint, I just feel like the big things I look for in a pin (layout, code) are phenomenal in AIQ, but the speech, music, graphics and details are lacking.

Couldn't agree with you more.

The game is awesome and very complete rules wise. It just lacks a bit of polish to the presentation at times.

The specialness of a mini wizard mode needs to be celebrated. And it can be done in many ways (color changing lighting, dimmed lighting, epic sound effects, tense music, unique call outs, and mechanically).

Think of the great modes in games like you mentioned.

The flashing lighting in Winter has Come in GOT makes you feel like you are in a snow storm. Just perfect theme integration.

Love the GI lighting effects in Fade to Black and Enter Sandman modes in Metallica. Plus the "Jack F#ckin' Pot!" makes me smile every single time.

In Star Wars, Dwight does a great job of making Escape from Boba Fett feel completely different from Lightsaber Duel and battling the Emperor just through GI lighting. Also, its so smart to hold the ball on the last shot to destroy the death star to get the big payoff on the LE / premium.

Horde is amazing because of the dark pulsing lighting that is matched to the sound effects. It actually builds tension.

Destroy the Ring is great for many reasons - the tense unique music with the "grunt" and yelling call outs that make you feel like you are battling Gollum. And I absolutely love the payoff of all the mechanisms firing after you complete the mode. There is ZERO doubt that you finished the mode and it feels great.

Its all the little things in these modes that makes them feel special. For those of us who play pinball for the modes and completion (not points or competition) those are the moments we chase like a drug.

In AIQ, there are modes that lack this polish.

There are times when you complete a gem mode (e.g. in a multiball) and you have no idea that you completed it. This is a decent accomplishment and should have more fanfare. IMO there should be no doubt that you finished the mode (i.e. through a distinctive sound - or at the very least a sound effect that is a lot louder).

The screen display when you start Black Order MB is a bland generic space scene. At the very least show who you are battling.

Another minor nit pick is that there is a great pulsing lighting effect when you start all gem modes EXCEPT for soul gem. Its cool that the lighting goes from blue to green, but then it should pulse green like the other modes.

There are great moments in the game (e.g. the lighting and sound effects in Gamma Ray) but less so in the moments that really deserve it.

I hope they are able / willing to add a few more touches to the game.

Rant over.

If I was a coder/designer I would get the rules/mode/gameplay completely fleshed out before adding too much polish. You don’t want to put all this work into lights/sound/video etc only to completely change a mode or rule and then have to re-do it all again.

Also, from a players perspective it’s better to have well balanced, well playing rules/mode/gameplay whilst waiting for all the polish. At least AIQ is a great game to play while we wait for it to be finished.

I completely agree the game needs personality, but I’m hoping/assuming these will come once Elwin is happy with everything else. This game has the bones of a classic, I’m sure the flesh will come.

I agree

This times 1000! It's frustrating not knowing if you finished the battle without having to watch the screen.

Just start finishing every quest you play, then you wont need to be told that you completed it, you'll just know that you obviously did!

Is this the new "play better?" Lol

Not sure how this is an issue. I know I have finished a battle when my ball drains after 1 or 2 shots, battle finished!

Anyone have any examples of powder coated armor on AIQ Premium? I don't like the Yellow LE, but wonder how it would look on the Prem cabinet that's less yellow. Any other colors that anyone has done?

How about the wireforms? There's so many of them that I wonder if any color would be over doing it.

Purple powder on the premium is the best I’ve seen looks stunning!

Every now and then i find myself thinking how well this layout would have worked as a Spiderman game. My 7yr old love Spiderman so its a shame i dont like the pinball machine but wow would Avengers have worked well as a Spiderman game with its crazy wireforms and the way the ball sticks up in the tower.
Thats it. Juat a passing thought.

Spidey is my Favorite marvel character. I wish he was included in the game/art but still, I just can’t see me passing up on this game. Almost ready for my premium

You don’t like Sterns Spider-Man? It’s one of Sterns best and easily one of Ritchies best layouts. I thought everyone liked that game

Different strokes. I dont find my kind of fun in most modern Ritchie games anymore. It actually sucks that as a comic fan Spiderman does nothing for me.
I think Star Trek is his last game I really sunk my teeth into.

Just got my pro delivered that I won from project pinball. We are in for a fun weekend

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Perfect timing!

I finally joined the 1B (tres commas) club today. Computer Frenzy and Trophy Mania MBs were insane and I had no idea what was going on. 400M from those 2 MBs alone. It was so crazy I snapped one of my spotlight posts in half with a fly ball and had to perform mid game triage to strap the wires and spotlight out of the way in order to continue. Serious craziness!!!

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Congratulations !!! sounds like a fun and crazy game

New on Pinside and my first Homepin is Avengers Pro! I tried too do my best with stuffs from Mezel Mods and I really love the game and the mods. I’m not that god and the sides-drains is hard on me
Thanks for all info in this forum
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Man the colored plastic protectors look so good on this game. I have blue and it really makes the whole lower half of the Playfield pop!

Check out their black panther mod too! I have mine on order for my premium.

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

I used these

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I was having a hard time with side drains, then I took extra time to really really level the playfield and things improved dramatically... yes I still do get drains of course but not no much now, specially balls coming backwards from Hawkeyes loop (secret skill shot).
It a was a minute adjustment -it was very close to level before -, but making sure it is absolutely bang on did improve things for me.

Added speakerlightkit to premium.

Used speakers with a black cone which makes the yellow pop.

Thanks again to Doug H... probably the best value for money upgrade someone can make to their premium or pro. Also the 5 1/4 speakers thicken up the sound plenty.

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That looks like the answer. Thanks!

What do you think about the drop target mod? I ordered all parts individually (drop targets, LED bracket and in the goody bag there where additional drop target stickers). There is also a all in one solution from mezel mods https://mezelmods.com/collections/avengers-infinity-quest-pinball/products/avengers-infinity-quest-target-illumination?variant=32768711721057
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So far I have not seen anyone have installed it and I really like it.
I have had registration problems at first, since somehow the opto didn't get blocked by the transparent material of the drops but I was able to fix it by applying electric tape to the drops from below.

You can see my blue drop targets @0:54 in this clip, i lighted them from the back, not from below the PF

I have only the light underneath installed, and the drop targets ready to change. It’s looks hard and complicated, what’s your thought?

Can you share the links to what you installed. It looks great!

I have some experience with the mechanics of a pinball machine. However this took longer than expacted (1.5h) since the optos where'nt working. I'm not sure how the marco drops are working in this regard.

As i remember
- remove cable and remove all 6 screws from the circuit board (red on the image)
- now start with one target at a time, remove the spring (blue)
- remove this springy washer (yellow) with a screwdriver by putting it into the hole of the washer and turning it
- replace the old target (I added a littlebit of lithium grease to the new target on the same spots like on the old one)

dont forget to take fotos during disassembling.

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Here is the opto, i placed a piece of electric tape on the drop target right between the optos.
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Outlane posts on my game were installed in the easiest position from the factory. Is this the correct factory position?

yes.

Officially in the club. Got my pro on Friday afternoon. This game is tough. Got the art blades which are sweet looking (wish we could get the LE version with Antman) and ordered my topper, just waiting on the next run. Reminds me of Tron on steroids.

Love this game. So fun in a home environment. This is my first stern so I have one question.

I hear a fan in the back box. When the fan is on it is a surprisingly loud whirring noise. It’s obviously the fan with how it turns off and on during play or between games. Is this normal for sterns and I haven’t noticed in bars before. Or is this something I should look into?