silly question, when you order the t-molding is it the 3/4”? First time i have had to change it out on a pin...

TMNT bleeding heavily already with over 20 sale ads herr. And AIQ gameplay and code not even revealed so the crippling of TMNT price value will only get worse. Many ads say they only sell to fund AIQ.

Gary Stern a few years ago saw the weak point of the competition was titles per year so he did all he can do to release max titles per year to increase titles per year he sacrificed TMNT with the early AIQ release the main goal of that is not to make money but to crush the competition if the main goal on titles per year was to make money Stern would release less titles per year wouldn’t have released AIQ that early.

In on an LE! Must buy theme for me and with KME designing felt more than comfortable jumping in on this game!

Yup, that’s what I used on my Iron Man.

Thank you!

Anyone going to buy the pro for HUO?
It's missing alot but still packed IMO and prefer the cabinet artwork minus backglass which is still dope and if gameplay and animations are awesome then I think it's still gonna be a winner. The Captain marvel ramp to me is the main loss on this but flow for days still and still have a spinner added. Doesn't look like it will be as stop-and-go as PRE/LE without the lower lock system scoop. What y'all think?

i think the captain marvel ramp will feel very satisfying, instead you get this tiny loop on the pro, and those feel horrible in my experience. thats why i'm going with premium. on this game premium is a no brainer, even the LE looks "worth it" this time. I also have the feeling that this game looks much more packed than it is, the pro looks kind of empty to me.

Yeah the pro is missing a lot imo, that captain marvel ramp alone is a must have, don’t think hitting that ramp will ever get old, gotto love Keith’s ramp designs he knows how to make a killer ramp and wireform.

Lower ball lock looks fun too and offers up some eye candy and something cool for the kids and visitors coming round to play plus I like having that VUK to make the right lane shot feel a little more interactive.

This happens with all new releases. Rinse and repeat.

Yes. It is a setting. I think it's call Mode Select on Start or something like that. If you turn it off, you have to shoot the scoop to start modes.

It just appears quicker this time because the window between releases has been a lot shorter than normal, only feels like TMNT came out last week.

But NIB LEs where listed for close to 10k the other week now down to close to 9k.

I used to think that releasing games too fast, or having too many manufacturers would overflow the pinball market. Boy was I wrong. That was before I truly understand what kind of money a lot of people in pinball are tossing around just for fun.

The only sales Stern is cannibalizing is sales from other manufacturers, imo. The loud sucking noise everyone heard this week wasn't the spaceballs trying to steal our air, it was stern sucking all the "pin savings" up this week while the other guys released more static image teasers.

Visually the only thing that's removed is the Captain marvel ramp.
Which may be 10 tons worth of metal..lol
Plus it has the VUK attached. The pro still has a lot TO shoot and I think we're going to see that on Friday during the stream. Like I said the premium with that Captain marvel ramp is next level.
The pro still has as much to shoot AS any other pro out there right now except for maybe JP pro..IMO

In on an LE
First since Master of Puppets LE

I dunno that lifting spinner and subway ball lock are pretty visual and with good lighting effects should look amazing.

But the pro is still going to be fun to shoot, a second spinner is a nice addition, who doesn’t like shooting spinners!!

Double spinner games are numero UNO!!
I own 3 . Love rippin spinners!!

You need to get yourself an Ironman! Sterns king of spinners with 3 and they are all fun to shoot, love my Ironman!

LE paid for.
Now to wait.

First nib le, so it will be the longest one Ive ever waited for.

But also the fastest one I'll ever receive... LoL

Wife and I couldn't agree on which model to choose from... so... I ordered a Pro and a Premium model.
The look on her face when they show up will be priceless.

Side note: Anyone have an extra room they can rent when she boots me out of the house?! lol

You might be lucky and she just kicks you out the bed for a week or 2, but on the plus side you will be spoilt for choice, do you sleep under the pro or the premium

Wtf the Stern only guys...this my first Stern pin (never thought I’d ever order a stern) also my first Stern sub that’s why it’s unusual for me that’s all. I ordered RM in December 19 and still waiting that’s the nonstern style where 2 months is almost nothing.

Many like the pro art package more maybe me2. But finding that more important than an uncrippled playfield is typical womanese.

Premium ordered. Ok who wants to buy a nice Ghostbusters...

Bring your machines and I won't charge you any rent

We both have great taste in Pinball!
Stop over some time and play the ones you don't have

The issues I saw with countless on THIS forum. Too thin, too gunky, artwork removed, artwork seeming of poor print quality, etc.

I was trying to make a point of positivity. No need to throw shade towards me as a non owner.

Never was at the Battle of Marathon. Wasn't alive back, doesn't mean I can't accrue knowledge of it because I wasn't there. Just because we don't experience everything first hand, doesn't translate to us not having possible concerns or input. Yeesh.

I'm sure the Pro will be awesome! I went with the Pro on Deadpool and don't regret it at all, love that game!

With that said - I did spring for the Premium on AIQ. I'm in a spot where I could afford it, so why not? One of my other games will have to go to make room (I'm maxed out at 5) and get a little money back, but Deadpool is definitely staying!

Sorry just seemed like casting stones. If I start a thread to say burgers suck I don't expect anyone to boycot McDonalds.... As I recall you "posted" many issues with your JJP and API games which I see as value granted they didn't apply to me or others as a majority. Can't speak for your Bla about Battle of Marathon as it has no value to the point??

Premium on order. Didnt think Id be buying another pin this year after getting a TMNT LE, but once I saw this I had to have it. Selling my Vpin to make room since Im maxed out on space. Wanted to go LE but was just too late to the draw so I guess Im waiting.(which im bad at).

Definetly going to replace tmolding and go yellow or purple. Im going to get the Avengers side armor but wondering if that will look wierd if I replacing the t molding with a different color.... Topper I can live without. So Premium, plus shaker, plus side armor and invisiglass being ordered. Wish I couldnt just gotten an LE!

I am on the other end of the spectrum. I got an LE and wonder if it’s just worth getting the premium and adding blades and a shaker to it lol

If you’re happy with the metallic yellow then it’s a win, if you do the math, it’ll be the same if not slightly more to do that to a premium. The majority of folks getting a premium are talking about upgrading the sound system, adding art blades, a shaker motor, non-reflective glass, and powder coating it. You get all of this on the LE, plus an actual backglass and a couple of autographs. Not to mention all of Keith Elwin’s machines hold their value pretty well. Most of his LEs that go on sale used, sale for what they cost new. If you upgrade your premium, you can’t expect people to pay what you put into it and have to sell it a market value.

I'm really hopeful issues do NOT exist, as I'd like to definitely consider a Stern at some point. Secondarily, I have lightly bounced in and out of the TMNT thread, and issues seem rampant, hence me head scratching why so many people leap immediately at a new game from Stern.

I didn't start a thread to say Stern sucks though. And I have mixed feelings about Stern, as I do API, JJP, P3, etc. Kinda healthy to not be all in or all out on a company, for me anyway.

Since you're counting Dave. I had one issue with Houdini. Had no significant issues with the Hobbit, and had many nagging/reoccurring issues with Pirates. It's been a mixed bag, which is definitely pinball it seems. The MAJOR issue I've had, was the clearcoat on POTC. Also, why I posted what I did.

Battle of Marathon is an analogy for me not having to directly experience something to have thoughts/opinions on it.

Anyway.........

Any guess as to the cost for the side armor?
Murph

Are you guys saying you can order it factory with side armour? Does that apply to the premium too?

I think they are referring to Stern for a first time are offering side art, topper, shooter, etc for this game on release from their accessories store or your local distributor. Still have to install/order them separate. And yes available for Premium/Pro

doesnt LE come with shaker? My tmnt did. the armor with the logo does look badass

Yes, the LE comes with it, but he’s thinking about a premium and just adding blades and the shaker to it.

AVENGERS: INFINITY QUEST DEEP DIVE! In Depth Overview of the Machine, Features, Rules, and Much More!

https://www.thisweekinpinball.com/avengers-infinity-quest-pinball-deep-dive-in-depth-overview-of-the-machine-features-rules-and-more/

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*holds nose and jumps in for some reason* My two cents: I think it's good for people to post about their experience if they have an issue with something. That gets information out there for people to be aware of and keep in mind.

But when I read about someone else's issues with a game, I have no idea what percentage of people have that issue (could be one or it could be a lot) or whether or not it ended up being resolved or if there's a process happening to try to resolve it. I'm grateful for the person posting their experience so it can give a heads up and provide information to keep in mind.

But, to me, it seems like for me read about something and then start casting generalizations about it when I haven't experienced an issue myself, I don't know how pervasive the issue is, and I don't know whether or not it was resolved or in the process of getting resolved just seems a bit of a step too far because all that does is essentially add to the reports of an issue when another data point of the issue happening hasn't actually occured. Put another way, I guess I don't think of someone else's experience as my story to tell. Again, just my thinking on it. Now back to Avengers!!!!

I think I agree with you, still going over your ideas some though.

My issue has been reading and witnessing many issues with TMNT, JP2 last year, and ST seemed to have some issues initially, but other than clearcoat ones.

When everyone wants to buy and buy, and no one is wondering just a bit IF prior issues will exist again, well...that's when manufacturers REALLY don't have to give a shit. That being said, ideally I'm a potential customer for all manufacturers, so for me personally, that's a bad trend to see.

Can we leave that whole discussion out of this thread guys? it's spread everywhere, can't we just have something nice for a change?

Great overview! Look like a ton of fun stuff to go for. Can't wait for the reveal stream Wednesday.