Official 2019 NHL hockey thread

It's finally here, lol!

"It's called playoff hockey, it's full of bullshit at every turn!"

Man I love his YouTube videos. He's antagonisingally unapologetic!

Q the CONGRATs CAPs

One n done somebody once said !!!

The jerks are heading to the next round!
These playoffs have been crazy.

Well I got 3/8 series correct. Not bad considering all the upsets in this insane first round.

All 4 Division leaders knocked out in first round .... crazy

The boys on my sports talk here in Vancouver we’re discussing that w all the leading point getters in the regular season, their teams have failed to move on. Marchand is an exception..with Ovi n the Caps out, I really can’t predict what’s gonna happen in the 2nd round. Hopefully some more game 7’s!!

The caps only had 6 shots in Overtime’s combined, they fell apart like our Pens

Round 2 picks...

NY Islanders in 6
Boston Bruins in 6
San Jose Sharks in 6
St. Louis Blues in 6

I missed last nights game, as I was putting in led bulbs in my cyclone...and making a road trip after work to look at another game n gonna miss the nfl draft..what is wrong w me?!

Mine are quite similar:
Boston Bruins in 5
San Jose Sharks in 6
St.Louis Blues in 6
Carolina "Bunch of Jerks" in 6 (this one is more a hope, as I really don't care for the Islanders, even though I feel they are the stronger of the two teams)

Yeah the Canes in the first two periods looked horrible. I really don't know how the game was even close at that point but to their credit they hung in there.

I said it earlier in this post that I felt the Caps were one and done. I cant help but think that your team needs that leader to win the cup, last year they won the cup by reducing the ice time of their leader! When do you see that? Don't get me wrong as I am in the minority of Pens fans as I like Ovie. I think he's the best goal scorer in the history of the NHL and he plays a physical game, unlike most captains, but he's not that guy that is going make plays happen. He's not that all around player.

He learned that from John Tortorella. Never hear him take ownership of a loss as it's never his fault.

Good to see some different teams in the mix. A relief to have no Caps or Pens around.............yawn.

Just read that two of the refs from the controversial sharks/knights game 7 won’t be working next round. Is that an admission from NHL that they fucked up?

There isn't anyone alive that thinks they made the right call; just 100% wrong and horrible.
The only thing worse is the penalty kill that followed.

So if the call was so wrong then that means all four officials were wrong as the NHL allows the Linesman to way in on calls and after the four officials discuss they can actually overturn a call if one of them deems the call to be wrong. so this means, at a minimum, the two officials deemed the penalty was correct.

Half of them, at least, didn't see it at all. They claimed after the game it was a cross check to the face, which it clearly wasn't.
Not a fan of either team so it's pretty easy for me to be objective.

Same here and I agree that the cross check wasn't blatant at all BUT according to the rules, as stated above, the ref can make the major penalty call due to the injury that resulted from the cross-check. Again, the cross-check itself didn't cause the injury it was him falling to the ice and his head making contact with the ice that caused the injury but if the cross-check didn't happen he doesn't fall.

That's all "But For" slippery slope stuff.
He WASN'T falling onto the ice from the cross check...he was pushed onto the ice by another player; watch it again.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1120906609574780935

I've watched and you tell me that he's not falling before the other player touches him??? Look at both of his skates, they're already off the ice before the second player makes contact with him. Whether the second player pushes him or not he was going down.

I'm not a big fan of either team, so hopefully I'm looking at this somewhat impartially, but here's how I currently see it:
Pavelski is cross checked by Eakins. While he is falling, Stastny pushes him down / out of the way. It looks like the push from Stastny is what makes him turn at a funny angle and land on his head. But it really does look like he was off balance and falling from the Eakins cross check. Would he have landed on his head without the Stastny shove? Maybe not. But he was falling already either way. It was from the cross check and following shove that caused him to fall at a bad angle and bleed from the head. By the rulebook, a crosscheck that results in an injury is a 5 minute major. This one is just murky as the stastny shove complicates things.
The call still has people divided, and this is after a couple days and countless reviews from a bunch of angles. Imagine trying to be a ref who has to make the call that moment. I don't envy them in that situation.

His right skate is on the ice when contact with player #2 happens, altering his direction of his body completely. His left skate is coming down to the ice as player #2 lifts him off the ice.
I'm giving him credit as a professional skater he would have worked himself out without falling on his head from the first check; that's a judgement call for sure.

I agree in that he likely wouldn't have fallen on his head from the cross check itself. It's from the Stastny shove that his body changes direction and he lands on his head. So it murky's the call. Should Stastny have been in the box instead of Eakins? I don't think that would've been right either. I think Stastny's actions changed the end result stemming from Eakin's cross check. But because the cross check was the reason Pavelski began to fall to begin with, they felt they had to charge that as the action that led to the end result.
I will agree that the call completely changed the game. If it wasn't a major, San Jose wouldn't have made the comeback. So I can see why Vegas fans are upset. I still can't believe that San Jose managed 4 goals in 5 minutes. Unreal.

It's more cloudy if you take the injury into account...which I don't really.

To me someone got cross checked, big fucking deal, that happens literally 200 times in every hockey game ever.
He's trying to regain his balance when someone pushes him to the ice, which happens literally 200 times in every hockey game ever.
He takes a bad spill and gets injured, which happens less frequently.

To me if you want to call the cross check that's fine, it was a cross check. 2 minute minor move along.

I didn;t see was there blood on the ice? Do they have a double minor cross check? I know some fouls don't.

It’s definitely a weird set of circumstances. Probably 99 out of 100 times he wouldn't have fallen on his face so that’s what makes it such a tough call to make. It wasn’t like they intentionally tried to smash him to the ice. What would happen if someone tripped a guy and he happened to fall weird and busted up his face? It’s a hockey play but the end result was a freak accident. I wouldn’t want to be the guy making that call, especially when everything is on the line at that moment. I think the call was excessive myself.

Yeah he was leaking onto the ice pretty decently. I think you have to take the injury into account, as it was the reason the call turned out as it did. Without the injury (and in this case, the visible blood that everyone could see), at most it would've been a 2 minute minor. But the rules state that if an injury occurs, it becomes a 5 minute major. I think their hands were tied that they couldn't do a 2 minute minor, as they couldn't say it was crosschecking without acknowledging the injury that theoretically came as a result from it. So it was a 5 minute major or nothing at all, and with Pav's bleeding, they felt they had to call it.
I feel that it all begins after the refs see Pavelski lying on the ice, motionless and bleeding. So they scramble to understand what happened. From either one of the refs or the video review, they take away that the cross check led to him on the ice bleeding. No way is it that straight forward / simple, but in the end the cross check was the start and the bleeding on the ice was the end.
It just sucks that it happened in a playoff series game 7. It was a great game to watch, but it absolutely taints the win. Not because I think it was the wrong call (I feel the refs made the best call they could based on what they knew and what the rulebook held them to), but because the one call directly changed the outcome of the game. Though I still feel Gallant should've used a time out to settle his team back down after the first two goals of the power play, as letting in 4 goals is on them as well.

I also completely agree that there was no intent to injure by Eakins or Stastny, even though it was a result of the events.

Whoops, double post.

Vegas Golden Knights now equals New Orleans Saints.

Yeah, you got the short end of a questionable call, but the collapse afterwards is all on you, not the refs.

Later,
EV

How about don’t give up 4 goals in 5 minutes.....no matter what the reason is that got you to that point in the first place. Teams kill off major penalties all the time without giving up one goal, let alone 4. Vegas choked. They aren’t victims here.

You forget we live in a society where everything is someone else's fault so you have to blame someone!

I see the issue more of people thinking they have to take a side; Vegas is both the victim and the choker.

Epitome of implosion!

BOS in 5
Canes in 7
Sharks in 6
Stars in 7

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nhl/news/nhl-apologizes-to-vegas-for-key-game-7-penalty-call-refs-out-for-next-round-report-says/fuzrmxqj5s6z1qodjogfdxb25

Holy shit Columbus!!! 2 goals 13 secs

NHL admitted wrong call it’s posted on NHL website regarding Sharks Knights game 7. As for picks 2nd round I believe they all could go either way. Not going to even try and just watch them.