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Odd graphic differences between the same games

By P2K

7 years ago


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    #1 7 years ago

    Can you spot the differences in each graphic pair?
    One is a Daisy May backglass comparing an original to a very well done (almost!) repro. The other is a Rainbow I'm working on now (comparing to a friends game).

    I stumble across these things while restoring games and find them interesting.

    Alan.

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    #2 7 years ago

    A lot of times repro artists go either way, either gets lazy and leaves out little details, (does it right, no more/no less), or goes on to add extra ones. I think we see both here - the top being the one that "excelled". (I just notice the butt crease gone on the top one, and the worm on the second one)

    #3 7 years ago
    Quoted from Otaku:

    A lot of times repro artists go either way, either gets lazy and leaves out little details, (does it right, no more/no less), or goes on to add extra ones. I think we see both here - the top being the one that "excelled". (I just notice the butt crease gone on the top one, and the worm on the second one)

    The two Rainbow playfields are both original, but the two Daisy May backglasses are original vs. repro.
    The Rainbow one has me baffled since they are both original.

    #4 7 years ago

    What's funniest about the Rainbow difference is how effective the simple addition of a single black line can be. Mmmm, scandalous.

    Could this detail have been a required omission, in the same puritanical areas that demanded add-a-ball instead of replays?

    (I also notice a few other detail differences such as fuzziness in the Blue lady's face, and the shadow on the antelope leaping over her... but I'm guessing those are resolution artifacts in the scan or whatever)

    #5 7 years ago
    Quoted from P2K:

    The two Rainbow playfields are both original, but the two Daisy May backglasses are original vs. repro.
    The Rainbow one has me baffled since they are both original.

    Notice how her lower back on the left one is a lighter tone and fairly cleaner looking that the rest? Could be somebody tried cleaning and stopped when they noticed the black coming off. Often times the later layer of paint will come off a lot sooner than the earlier ones, which would be the black in this case. Or, it's lighter because the whole area was touched up.

    #6 7 years ago

    All I know, and all I can offer is this -
    *IF* it was done on purpose, something like that isn't new.
    When I was involved in Animaniacs, there was a scene that was drawn with a little too much cleavage. After it aired the first time, they had the scene pulled, and touched up to remove the 'cleavage' line. This was in the mid-90's, as far as I can remember.

    (As for the second pic .. I can't even make out what that *is*?)

    #7 7 years ago
    Quoted from Coyote:

    All I know, and all I can offer is this -
    *IF* it was done on purpose, something like that isn't new.
    When I was involved in Animaniacs, there was a scene that was drawn with a little too much cleavage. After it aired the first time, they had the scene pulled, and touched up to remove the 'cleavage' line. This was in the mid-90's, as far as I can remember.
    (As for the second pic .. I can't even make out what that *is*?)

    Involved in Animaniacs? That's cool.

    I believe it's a worm poking through the... blanket?

    #8 7 years ago

    I ended up with a King of Diamonds repo backglass that was produced by Herb Silvers. He forgot to put the bootprint on the backside of the drunk getting turfed from the bar, pretty funny. This pic has it of course.

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    #9 7 years ago

    Thanks for the eagle eye on the Daisy May. Something I hadn't noticed on my game.

    Enclosing similar pix.... you aren't experiencing an anomaly. The first pic is an original glass showing a worm below the paint can. The 2nd is a Shay repro...no worm.

    J

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    #10 7 years ago

    Damn. I bought the glass just to have it, and you're saying it doesn't have the worm? I want a refund!

    #11 7 years ago
    Quoted from oldcarz:

    Thanks for the eagle eye on the Daisy May. Something I hadn't noticed on my game.
    Enclosing similar pix.... you aren't experiencing an anomaly. The first pic is an original glass showing a worm below the paint can. The 2nd is a Shay repro...no worm.
    J

    Yeah, I would assume that is a classic case of either mistakingly missing it, or it was too difficult for the artist to re-create so they knowingly left it out. (I would assume it could just be scanned from a nice glass though... Unless Shay somehow got real Gottlieb art and a revision before the worm was added but that seems like a stretch)

    #12 7 years ago
    Quoted from Otaku:

    Yeah, I would assume that is a classic case of either mistakingly missing it, or it was too difficult for the artist to re-create so they knowingly left it out. (I would assume it could just be scanned from a nice glass though... Unless Shay somehow got real Gottlieb art and a revision before the worm was added but that seems like a stretch)

    I discovered the missing worm when repairing an original backglass using a friends repro as a guide. The worm is in a area that is typically flaked off of old backglasses, so my guess is that the repro artwork originally was done from a worn out BG and they did not know that there was missing graphics. It doesn't appear that the repro artwork came from original Gottlieb files but rather from a flaked old BG.

    Alan

    #13 7 years ago

    Alan,
    I believe you are exactly right. Using another original backglass as reference, there is flaking by the worm. On this glass, it's not completely gone, but if a repro BG was made from one similar, it's reasonable that no one would have known about the critter.

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    #14 7 years ago

    The paint can looks taller on the original glass too.

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