I'm gonna lay money on Family Guy never getting remade.....

Unless Stern has down time and a pile of parts FG WOF 24 CSI IJ4 will never be remade.

IM is a a bit of a slim game with some GI Joes on it

If they remake FGY I don't think it would be $4800 like IM

But hey, hope I'm wrong. I'd sell my old one & buy a new one. I'm an idiot like that

It'll be LOTR just to spite the Hobbit game and due to its popularity. Either that, or Tron or Spiderman.

LOTR is a no brainer - they still have 250 LE numbers to fill.

Anyone up for a High Roller Casino Vault Edition?

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If it were up to OP's Monopoly would be on the docket - timeless or TSPP.- but that is too pricey to do.

Or you could play it on Pinball Arcade, the game you said "who cares?" to...

I wouldn't think FGY. 4500 buys a nice example so why buy a remake? Unless you're pbw79 and it's worth a thousand bucks to sniff some NIB cardboard

The only vault I could see made is SM and that's iffy. I guess they could continue to make Trons and just call them vaults since aren't those recent ones $5500 shipped?

Plus some of us will pass on the vaults because they apparently have that weird backbox

I only play real, mechanical action pinball.

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I think supply on games will outstrip demand and we will see prices falling across the board.
Space and price are big issues and if the secondary market games stop moving no space or cash for the new titles.

I think this is already happening, I have seen more entire DMD stuffed collections for sale recently than I can ever remember in 10 + years.

There seemed to be a small panic along the lines of "I don't want to be holding the bag when this sucker goes down" with all these remakes.

I am basically out of space, if I want a new game I have to make a frowny face and try to sell one. And I know I am not alone.

Prices are now capped. If an older game gets above 8k, it will be remade, so that is the cap for older stuff. If a Stern game gets too much above 5k, it will come out of the vault. If the prices are below that, it won't be worth remaking. So it really is a shift.

So the only other shoe would be if they could do them cheaper. A 5k AFM will get some attention, but an 8k one is a bit tougher sale. So we will wander between the low and the high now.

And I do think all of this makes the market more unsure. You hope you were not the guy that paid 6k for an IM 2 days before the launch, and you KNOW you won't be the guy buying a 6k LOTR now. So you will take your money and close your wallet. Their next game comes out, what do you do? Do you buy, or think hey, next month it might be NIB LOTR!

I feel like, yes, it will hurt the prices on old pins - old ratty pins. I feel like the timing of that IM vault announcement might of cost me a couple hundred bucks on a game I was selling recently.

HUO stuff....not too much.

You can wait...and wait...hoping you'll get a NIB game for $4500-$5000.

Or you can buy a mint HUO game right now, maybe for a little less even.

Seems like a no-brainer to me but I'm sure many people lust after opening the box on one of these things.

I am one of them and have recently sold the bulk of my collection.
I kept a few to play but I am out and have no interest in 8K+ games.

I never though the bubble would happen, but the problem now is with all the pinball hobbiest money not being kept with in the community, and getting sucked up by companies. This will eventually lead to less money with all the hobbiests, and drag down the value of all machines.

Gary will retire happy lighting his cigars with $100 bills while laughing thinking "I've already copied everything from the start, now rethemed 90s machines into new sterns and raised prices, now just cranking out old machines and raising prices again, I bet I could re-invent the fucking wheel and sell it to these morons and charge 10k".

Been done: http://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/07/09/2155206/a-brief-history-of-patenting-the-wheel-what-goes-around-comes-around

Not if you are talking about ordering from a dealer when they were new, I think they were more like $4800 ish.

Now if you see any for sale on retail sites probably are $5500.

Stern might be wise to announce 2 years out their VE lineup.
So, lets says tomorrow Sterns says that they are making 500 Spiderman VE and 500 LOTR VE in 2015, 500 TSPP VE in 2016.
Here are the likely ramifications of this:

- Prices will fall on existing Stern games because of the additional supply
- Some prospective purchasers will wait to get NIB so prices will fall further on used pins.
- Purchasers can have advance notice to save their money up to buy the new Stern VE release.

Garbonzo - that would kill the resale value of none -huo versions IMO.
That being said LOTR come on down