Going beddy bye...but I'll leave you with this....happy dreams!

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......and that was the final price.

Make any MM owner think about selling!!

Seller fees bring his/her net probably down to ~$11,800.

I am guessing the seller is happy with that sale price. To me this is further reason that I should never sell my MM as I will NEVER be able to find/afford another one.

Not me.

+1

If I were to be honest...

Given my current life position (wifes schooling costs are way too much), an offer of 15k cash and carry would be a "make me sell it to you" sort of price that I could not refuse.

I am yet to 'beat' my MM, but maybe after the tournament I will close the outlanes and set it to 5 ball just so I can actually put up a half way decent score and see a bit more of the game. It is the most brutal game I own and I rarely can do much on it, but I keep coming back for more punishment. It will actually be kind of cool/sad to see some of the pros at the event put up huge scores even with the outlanes open and tilts tightened up.

Not at all. I owned one for about four months and just didn't love it enough to keep that kind of cash tied up in a game. At 5, maybe 6K, I'd buy another and keep it, but at 10K plus it just isn't for me. Ultimately, it came down to good old fashioned "bang for the buck", which was lacking IMHO.

This is exactly how I feel. After the initial excitement of a playing your new MM, it eventually becomes another game in the collection that gets played sometimes, and sits sometimes. But it sits with a virtual cashbox of $12000 inside.

I think this is the opinion of every BBB owner - it's more valuable than it is fun. Hard to sell, but not necessarily because it's better to play than other games after awhile.

It would bug me having so much tied up in a pinball machine that is not substantially different from many other lesser priced games. I'm not bashing the game -it's good. I'm bashing the cost. Play and fun is more important than prestige for me.

If you bought one for several thousand dollars less, it's different.

However, there are so many other games that are comparable (or better) play-wise for less.

16.5k, chromed out, mirror blades, pdi glass, LED trolls, subwoofer, extra plastic set, clean, lot nicer than that one......cash and carry only. PM me if interested. 43130. No offers,no trades, will sell at price.

I love attack from mars. Its easy to learn but for some reason so much fun to play!

Game has been re-listed as the Ebay buyer did not pay for it.

ebay.com link: Medieval Madness Bally Machine Pinball Clean Working NO RESERVE

Got to change the old saying:, "A pin is not worth what somebody is willing to pay, but rather what they can pay".

I say the game will get 1k less than the last auction.

At least 1k less. I'm thinking it comes in closer to 10k this time. The second place bidder will have lost some excitement to and will probably have a lower ceiling this time.

Let us know if you get that price. Sounds like a really nice example. Good luck.

The high bidder found this thread and decided he paid too much. lol

He felt Shazaamed! LOL!

I guess.. he was the one bidding on it.

So its the same seller in the same location... on the left coast... I wonder if this is the first shipment of Chinese knockoffs. It had to happen sooner or later.

The lengths some people will go to when trying to pull down the perceived value of MM is amazing to me. This is the second time I have heard someone try to claim there are Asian made MM knockoffs in the market. If you are going to spout such outlandish stuff then the least you could do is make up a good back story to try and make it more believable and provide some entertainment. I think the last guy claimed he saw a storage locker with a few brand new MMs. Provide some evidence of your claims or GTFO.

Anyone that takes 2 seconds to look at the listings comes to the obvious and logical conclusion...
It is the same damn pin. The seller re-listed it because the previous winning bidder did not pay.

Back to my original guess.....11.2k on this relist.

Totally agree and I often times disagree with this poster's views. While loads of fake stuff comes out of Asia I do not believe pinball machines will be items they fake, probably ever. Too intrical. Too many moving parts. Too little margin. If we are lucky we may one day start getting fake parts...like playfields...that would actually help the hobby.

No such thing as a "knock off" MM.

Have to say, this is the WORST place to determine value...

What??? The shill bidder didn't pay? What a surprise!!

That MM lOOked like Hell too.. CrazzY / insane money

Don't get you panties in a wad. I said "I wonder if" not THEY ARE!

Suspicious how the seller relisted less than 24 hours after the first auction ended because the seller didn't pay, (what, buyers only get 24 hours to pay these days?). Why wouldn't he sell to the second highest bidder for only 61 bucks less? It would be great if he got hung out after possibly having his friend(s) shill bid him right into some unexpected, yet substantial final value fees

Yep; there was some shill bidding going on there and the seller got stuck with it, clearly. I think davewth's initial guess on the value/price of the machine will be where it would honestly end. Somewhere around 10k I believe it was.

There are knockoff MMs out there, maybe not Asian, but they are 100% in existence.

**Don't shoot the messenger, bitches**

Are you talking about the one or two that were built from parts or possibly the simulated versions? You are not talking about large numbers of fakes being made for profit though correct?

Impossible to say how many are out there.

Anyone could take a junky game like NBAFB, drop in a playfield, new roms, trolls castles towers translite decals and have a beautiful forgery.

The exploding castle base is a hard part to find, but anyone who has a laser cutter at work (like Cliffy) could make a pile of them.

The wire ramps are hard to find, but anyone with a TIG welder at work could create them in a few hours.

I actually wish such a factory existed. That would be great for the hobby.

Great for you maybe, LOL.

Bad for me and my real silkscreen cabinet, no decals, $$$$$ MM.

True. The people who have fought, searched, and saved for an original MM are harmed by that . . . but, if MM really is the greatest pinball machine ever made as the rankings would have everyone believe (I rank MM high, it is good, not the best in my view but very very good) then more of these machines need to be out there to bring more people into pinball.

Yes!!! This is what I'm referring to when I say there are no "knock offs". Of course, some have been built with B/W parts from WPC95 games. a Pinsider did this exact thing and posted it on here. Turns out, it actually cost him more in the long run to build one, but cost cutting wasn't his motivation.