Well, yall are morons and I have a dealer friend that has three other dealer friends.
-moparjoe
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Quoted from PoMC:Why oh why would the OP allow this as a forum topic?
Who cares why....free entertainment 
The guy switched from 100% upvote to 2.5% in one day after 10 years on Pinside.
World record, who can beat that??
He deserves respect...
Quoted from mrm_4:This is the new imamaculate Baywatch thread!!! Finally a second coming!
But with painted legs.
ImNotNormQuoted from mrm_4:This is the new imamaculate Baywatch thread!!! Finally a second coming!
How many plays in the past 12 years?
Because it could be non-zero.
The battery damage won't affect his asking price - after all, board work is a bonding experience, and any doofus can neutralize alkali.
Generally a good value for the game, wouldn't be surprised if he bumps up the price to $32,990.
Game is nice and clean though. No dirt. For a small upcharge he'll sell you some.
(I loved that thread and this is too much fun...)
Lewiston, NY
Quoted from Warzard:The guy switched from 100% upvote to 2.5% in one day after 10 years on Pinside.
World record, who can beat that??
He deserves respect...
1.9% now. Will be 1.0 by Christmas.
Like others, I can’t see why anyone who knows this forum would take the option to make this a thread. Each successive post by the OP simply spurs myriads of critical posts in response. Maybe the idea is “any publicity is good publicity”?
Like the imamaculate Baywatch thread, this is turning into the thread that just keeps giving.
Quoted from wolverinetuner:Like the imamaculate Baywatch thread, this is turning into the thread that just keeps giving.
Since the Pinball Amigos aren't building every Friday anymore, this thread sure has filled up this Friday with humor!
Quoted from MOPARJOE:Yes, that's what they did for their operators, to keep them happy when they made a mistake...He still had the other High Speed when I was there. It was a used/ROUTED High Speed, in pretty nice condition, and it sold for $3600.00...
So…the original purchaser, an operator, got a second machine for free and decided not to route the original machine because it had some cosmetic damage? Wouldn’t an operator still route the second machine?
Quoted from Mapalot:So…the original purchaser, an operator, got a second machine for free and decided not to route the original machine because it had some cosmetic damage? Wouldn’t an operator still route the second machine?
Hell yeah they would. None of it makes sense. $30k by Christmas!
Quoted from Apex:No kidding on the record downvotes. Two posts in Nine years of lurking, to then cash out with this machine? This has to be someone's duplicate account right?
Either a dupe account or he's really committed to the long game.
Even if the OP is being honest (extremely unlikely) , everything he's said was told to him by someone else. In other words, hearsay.
8D6992CD-825D-4933-8C8A-AFE43A989256_4_5005_c (resized).jpegQuoted from freeplay3:The real question is, where is the topper. I do have one hanging in my garage right now. So who ever buys this game for 20k please feel free to contact me. I have looked at other toppers like GB and walking dead. So I think 2k is a fair price.
Actual picture from my garage taken 3 minutes ago
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The topper is inside the cabinet. It is shown in the pics.
...also, if we were to believe the OP, it was kept in some guy's dry, heated office for 36 years without being played????????
Dude must have a huge office.
Quoted from PismoArcade:...also, if we were to believe the OP, it was kept in some guy's dry, heated office for 36 years without being played????????
Dude must have a huge office.
Behind stack of pinball flyers.
Quoted from Warzard:The guy switched from 100% upvote to 2.5% in one day after 10 years on Pinside.
World record, who can beat that??
He deserves respect...
and a trophy.
C504A955-8A67-4ECC-8952-D30B0B1B209C.gifQuoted from MOPARJOE:...and was even on a pallet, so it never even touched his floor!
kid-animation.gifIm not as savvy as these old time operators but if i got a replacement game and was allowed to keep the first, i’d of put the one with the the damaged corners (as everything else is perfect) on route and keep a minty one in my office. This is why i’m just a hobbyist though.
I always assumed there was a small subset of collectors who swapped unboxed games with zero intent of opening them. Any prestige of an unboxed game is lost when you set it up and play it. What yr left with is a really nice condition game thats worth not a dime more than what someone else is willing to pay for it.
Quoted from freeplay3:The real question is, where is the topper. I do have one hanging in my garage right now. So who ever buys this game for 20k please feel free to contact me. I have looked at other toppers like GB and walking dead. So I think 2k is a fair price.
Actual picture from my garage taken 3 minutes ago
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Pffft. I have that light topper too. Retractable cord and everything. Nice try!!! 
Quoted from Palmer:After this thread it is definitely going to be a piece of pinside history.
Well, he hasn’t offered Shasta or deli meats.
Quoted from underlord:Pffft. I have that light topper too. Retractable cord and everything. Nice try!!!
Nothing more annoying then posting something for sale and people start asking about other things in the picture. 
Quoted from yzfguy:I'm so glad this is here to keep me entertained on a snow day
Grown ass adults have snow days??? WTF???
I am in the wrong business...
Quoted from Warzard:The guy switched from 100% upvote to 2.5% in one day after 10 years on Pinside.
World record, who can beat that??
Kaneda.
Quoted from MOPARJOE:I will NOT be turning this machine on for any reason, as it is only new once, and I don't want to hear anyone saying that as soon a ball gets run through it, it's a used machine; it's not going to happen while I own it (and yes, I know some of you will give me "flack" about it)....
Quoted from beelzeboob:Kaneda.
Maybe in %, but in sheer number of downvotes in 1 day, one must also mention that asshat ASOA who would act as Pinside's town crier. He said MBr would have "two great games in one" and acted as a foolish cheerleader in all of his posts. Wonder how things turned out for that guy... 
Quoted from beelzeboob:Hey, OP! You wouldn't HAPPEN to be FRIENDS with Mike PACAK, would you? Because you're FROM Ohio and you DEFINITELY write JUST like him! LOL!!!
Did Choggard move to Ohio?
Quoted from MOPARJOE:And mentioning how many were made has no relevance to this situation, because how many were never played??..Even if production figures had anything to do with anything, then how do you explain what Addams Family machines are selling for?..Or, how about the crazy prices all the machines at the Califirnia auction sold for this past September????
I'm not trying to knock HS here (for all you HS fans out there) but is the OP seriously attempting to compare HS to a TAF? True that the production numbers are somewhat similar (17,080 for HS versus 20,270 for TAF) but the high dollar values for TAFs in outstanding condition in recent years is due to that pin's legendary status in the annals of pinball (and the Gold edition's scarcity). A status that I don't think most would adorn HS with... So OP's comparison is totally off base (as well as his pipe dream to get $20k for this pin as it sits). But... there's a sucker born every minute--perhaps he should put it on ebay.
Quoted from newpinbin:Another obvious Pinside user on PCP.
Hey OP stay off the PCP!!!
Only another individual using a Schedule II substance/hallucinogen would pay you $20,000 for this PIECE OF SHIT!
Couple drops of L wait an hour. Bump of K wait 5 minutes start hitting tank and close your eyes! You will see this high speed and lots of pretty colors!
PCP is a Schedule I drug.
Just saying
Quoted from newpinbin:Hey OP stay off the PCP!!!
Only another individual using a Schedule II substance/hallucinogen would pay you $20,000 for this PIECE OF SHIT!
Quoted from Completist:Im not as savvy as these old time operators but if i got a replacement game and was allowed to keep the first, i’d of put the one with the the damaged corners (as everything else is perfect) on route and keep a minty one in my office. This is why i’m just a hobbyist though.
I always assumed there was a small subset of collectors who swapped unboxed games with zero intent of opening them. Any prestige of an unboxed game is lost when you set it up and play it. What yr left with is a really nice condition game thats worth not a dime more than what someone else is willing to pay for it.
That’s exactly what would’ve happened in 1986 assuming Willy sent any operator a replacement for no charge.
There’s no way this story is true. As mentioned by someone else, this would’ve been chalked up to damage in transit, some kind of discounted price or some free parts sent, and the game would’ve been on route before everything was settled.
As for the serial numbers not matching, here’s what most likely happened:
Operator got 4 High Speed’s. For argument’s sake, assume S/N’s 15072, 15077, 15091 and 15092. 77, 91 and 92 went out ASAP. While trying to decide where 72 was going, 77 had an issue. CPU from 72 went into game 77. After repairing the CPU, it never went back in to 72. Operator never placed 15072 because in 1986, people didn’t know how to work on Sys11 like we do today. It wasn’t easy to find PIAs. Or sockets. Or RAMs. Good soldering equipment was very expensive and not easy to find. There were no internet reviews and online help forums. 15072 never made it out just because of these reasons and maybe some others.
I can speculate these thoughts with some level of knowledge because I was born into the coin-op industry. I remember when dad had 6 High Speed’s. I remember all the early Sys11 problems and grief and disdain for the board sets. I also remember that winning changes everything and his frustration was always quickly forgotten when he opened the cash boxes on High Speed (and really most any pin or VG around that time.)
I’m in agreement, the real story behind this is far more fascinating (and probably closely resembles my theory) than the OP’s fable.
What’s most amusing to me is I’ve bought and sold probably 30 High Speed’s in my life. I think I can honestly say I didn’t gross $20k selling 30. Of course, all 30 of those sold were a decade ago before pinball exploded into todays warmed climate.
Quoted from Puffdanny:Unfortunately no
Lol, I know. Cant remember what I was looking for the other day, but my search had the 500 mile radius.... And there he was, still selling....
Great entertainment here for a Snowy Friday.
Awesome looking project machine. Sorry, but the back story doesn’t seem to hold water from what I see and know about williams back in the day.
If you were offered $10k you should take and run with this one. Whoever buys this game has to do a full shop job, probably change to LED’s, fix whatever electronics are broken, and probably buy a new set of legs. After this i would say this would be a good 7500 pin in today’s market. Just my evaluation.
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