Just catching up here... so is the bottom line the most folks would have as a fee is $2.50 - $35.00?

Ever buy a game you really wanted and and the end eat the $400 shipping fee when it was time to sell? $2.50 - $35.00 seems like a great deal especially from a great site and community.

Let's not be cheap folks.

I don't think anyone in the Northeast for sale thread buys and sells more games than the Stang. I think that pretty much makes him an authority on this subject. Sorry if you were trying to get into some kind of measuring contest with the guy. I think he will be able to continue on about his business with or without Pinside. I'm not currently in the market for anything but I check both everyday, religiously.

I will reach my target audience easily enough. Facebook and craigslist are the way for me. I've had multiple repeat buyers and sellers. Heck, most send me a text, call or email monthly to see what I'm thinking of selling.

Call me cheap, but most times I cut my prices to the rock bottom point when I sell them here. I don't feel like dropping another 20 bucks on average a game.

I honestly believe me selling on craigslist is better for the hobby anyway. I spent over 2 hours going over a game I just sold to a craigslist novice. Now not only is he hooked, he knows what to look out for when buying a game.

Heck, there are multiple people on pinside who have an account because I sell on craigslist.

I encourage you guys to get back to selling. Didn't mean to take this off on a tangent. GLWS. I'll be on craigslist. Stang out!

The fees for lower value games are $2.50-$3.75. It doesn't get up to the $20 fee range until you hit around the $5000 mark or so.

Yeah, but that doesn't fit into Stang's argument.

Hey, I hope you do reach your target audience and I hope you continue to build a great business. My gripe about your earlier post is to trash Pinside for charging you a little bit to put your machines in front of a large audience. The rates are more than reasonable and you have an audience dedicated to the game of pinball. If you don't like the fees, then don't sell on the site.

Instead of 'thinking that someone is an authority,' back it up with something. You 'don't think' anyone in the Northeast for sale thread buys and sells more games than the Stang. Show me some proof or don't word it the way you do. Say you think he might be one of the top sellers. But don't put him at the top of the heap without knowing that for sure. It's misleading without facts to back it up.

You 'think' he will be able to continue on about his business with or without Pinside. Again, no facts, just conjecture. You don't know how he runs his business. Maybe he drinks, eats or snorts everything he makes and doesn't put it back into his business and is headed for Chapter 11. You have no idea. So you shouldn't be speaking on his behalf.

I'm not running for President, I'm giving my opinion on an internet forum. I am not required to back up anything I say with legal documentation on an internet forum. You appear to be looking for an argument based on what I "think" of most of your posts. And you shouldn't suggest someone is snorting their profits without some sort of "proof".

Mixed feelings on this... I see why this site wants to monetize - it no doubt is expensive and time-consuming. But I also wonder if regional sales threads have their place, too, outside of the marketplace. One thing: the people who uploaded endless, massive pic files in this thread are the ones who should absolutley be posting in the marketplace instead. But a quick blurb saying "I have an Eartshaker I may sell or trade, PM for details" without the formality of an accompanying marketplace advertisement may not be such a bad thing, am I wrong?

I bought my last 2 pins through this particular thread. IM & TZ. I donated $35 to the cause 2 days ago. Got the cool heart and will continue to look here and other regional threads for Pins.

Bottom line is that I saved more than that $35 through Pinside, let alone the informational, educational and entertainment value of the site !

Actually, it does fit Stang's argument. Can you explain the pricing model? What tier does my project Mata Hari belong in? How about my restored Mata Hari?

Man, you said it.

Project Mata Hari, eh? I'm looking for a head to finish mine.....

FWIW, I've bought a few pins from this thread. I've also picked up quite a few from Craigslist. But recently (last year or so) have picked up 8 pins to date from offerup. 2 of them were practically free. The others were mostly people whose "kids are out of the house-we don't play them anymore" type situations. Bottom line is check every venue including Pinside.

So lucky. Offer Up by me has this. Probably needs a bulb or two?

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If you can't back up what you have to say, then anything you say is BS

^^^^ Do you think maybe you are being a little too harsh or direct. This is a public forum not jr high school. Take a deep breath and relax,we don't want this forum turning into facebook drama.
Mike

Sega Viper Night Drivin' for sale - listed in Marketplace - $1700

I'll be in Forked River, NJ (exit 68 on GSP) the weekend of August 6th.

Don't know, don't care. I've never sold a pinball machine on line, just been a buyer.

mods, no worries. I'll chill.

I donate to pinside monthly and have for a while. I don't sell games, I buy them. Policies like this drive sellers away, Stang being one of the big sellers. So him leaving this site becomes less of a resource for me and other buyers. I'm not worried about not seeing Stang's games I can text him and see what he has. The thing is that takes Pinside out of the loop, and that is a bad thing for Pinside.

Stang is the type of guy who shows up with a truckload of 5-6 games in various condition. He posts a quick blurb here letting people know what he has, usually while they are still in the truck. Having to take detailed pictures of all the games when several are going to be beat up projects is counter productive to how they are being sold. A quick mystery project game off the truck, $200. A game that has been photographed and gone through suddenly is now is $500. This also distorts the estimated price Pinside places on games. If a project game gets passed around as they do, just look back in this thread. Then you end up with multiple under-priced sales. This drives down the average price on this game artificially.

I agree if your going to post 12 photos of a $2,000+ game you should use a marketplace ad, your going to get better exposure. But for the unknown raw project games, sometimes a marketplace ad is overkill. I get needing to monetize the site, but I think the regional threads help for some things. There needs to be a price point of Pinside sponsorship where people can donate a set value and not have to pay any further fees, or have local regional player just sponsor this thread so it can be back to what it was.

Anyone have a very nice High Speed for sale ?
PLEASE PM me so we can avoid the current storm.
Also looking for a nice South Park but I know Maxbadazz is looking too.
Cliff

Just picked up a Williams Gay 90's without a head.....I know it's a needle in a haystack...but anyone have one?

https://pinside.com/pinball/market/ad/37215

not sure of your definition of "very nice" but Rob can certainly make it that way/...

Too many jokes here...

Thanks for the link.

world cup soccer just in. plays fine. but needs good cleaning. cabinet is decent. no major issues. playfield has wear spot in front of right flipper from drag.

boards and wiring super clean .

$1800

Huo master of puppets about 400 plays $7900

Knew that was coming!

Ohhhh Duuude ! Here we go !

Can we get back to selling and less whining?

Still looking for GoT pro. Cash or trades

That's what I'm trying to do! Where are all those Gay 90's heads I'm looking for!

FWIW: I purchased my first pin from this thread. I was searching CL, ebay, and the Marketplace but stumbled upon a sale by drgnlair. Because it was posted here, I was able to do a little sleuthing and knew his name, reputation, and address before I even contacted him. That alone made a big difference in my trust level as I went into the sale.

The first purchase can either launch you into the hobby or sour you on it. Needless to say, my first purchase gave me the confidence to buy two more non-functioning project pins.

The marketplace fees seem reasonable for the private onesie, twosie seller. But these regional FS threads are a good resource for the first time buyer. Don't ruin it by clamping down.

I hear you gotta pay extra for that kind of action.....

You ever get that Jungle Queen working? I'd be happy to stop over sometime if you're stuck

Thanks, zacaj. Yes, I got it working and learned a lot in the process. Here's what was wrong.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/new-jungle-queen-with-incomplete-start-sequence#post-3119254

Wow I want that mople, if this lasts until I'm back from vacation I'll be shocked.

Christ, just shut the thread at this point if we are going to keep bickering about it.

Keep beating the dead horse guys.

Ya see!
With all this bickering I took my eyes off the prize and missed this yesterday

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I missed it too, and I saw it in 15 minutes

It's a great game, actually miss mine. Get this guy some head!

It was right in your town probably a street away. shit

What app is that?

Did he give you an STD?

Probably just a fuse...

Iron man - fs

There was a $1500 Getaway posted almost same time too. While not quite the same level a really low price and it also sold instantly.