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3 months later
This thread is great. As a matter of fact, there was a new poster that was asking for LED advice, and guess which thread I linked them to. You got it, this one. I've learned a lot by example over the last year. This is one great example of one of those learning examples.
Quoted from jar155:High Glare
Didn't you know that those are actually smurfs and not humans? Get with the program!
Does anyone else have a natural impulse to downvote all of the pics that everyone posts, as oppose to upvote? I know none of these are from anyone in this thread, but the urge is real!
Quoted from PoMC:Oh, here it is with the LEDs in the backbox before I removed them. I replaced with incandescents and I don't put one in every socket either so glare on the playfield is minimized.
Must have been a girl T-Rex, because animals often have their corresponding gender colors associated with them. If you met me in real life, you can tell that I have a glowing blue aura around me.
A pinball machine is a game to be played, not a game to look at. Aesthetics aside (as we all know aesthetics are 100% subjective), if you look purely at the functionality of purples, pinks, blues, reds, greens, and any other color as general lighting, those light frequencies are terrible, as in completely non-functional, for seeing the ball, which is 100% objective. Ever wonder why worklights or lights in any workplace are natural white or warm white? It's so that people can SEE what they are doing. If any of the other colors work better than white to light up your area, then you would expect to see them in other functional locations.
Save for the fact that a color bombed GI is ugly, you also can't enjoy the damn thing because you're guessing where the ball is 100% of the time. Might as well watch a TV show while you're flipping.
3 weeks later
I don't know why I come to this thread...i know I'm going to see awfully done machines...yet I keep coming back. And each time I say to my self, sometimes out loud "DEAR GOD WHY?" and then my wife looks at me like what is going on???
Quoted from Rascal_H:Instagram.
Seriously...these people must be colorblind. Or they had a grab bag of LEDs and just said f*ck it. Cuz that's what it looks like.
Quoted from mrossman5:Definitely one of the nicest “erminator” ‘s that I have ever seen
It's T2...ON BROADWAY! Come see Ahhnoollld as he struggles with his self identity as a cyborg human killer in his past, but sees the light and comes back from the future to right his wrongs! A musical sensation sure to make you laugh, love, and cry! Tickets available for a limited time!
"Which one do you prefer?" Real question asked by a real person. Their identity will be anonymous to protect the innocent.
(I think it's PS'd but even the thought of it....)
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Quoted from Rascal_H:The first one because it’s perfect for the holiday season.
That was my first thought. Cleland could make a holiday sound package to go with it. Replace the well walker with the abominable snowman and put Santa's head in the prison. Would be a perfect Rudolph pin.
Quoted from sohchx:SHWRECKED
Honestly surprised it's not green everywhere, because that makes sense right? Oh wait. Everything is purple.
Quoted from mrossman5:MY EYES!
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Quoted from FatPanda:Oh wait. Everything is purple.
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Quoted from TheLaw:Ring the shame bell
http://www.cometpinball.com/product-p/kit-potc.htm
I mahine then it's pinballbulbs
Ringing...
Quoted from TheLaw:Yeah I mean it isn't CB or CP but...needed? Fair enough for the elderly I guess.
I wouldn't use lights under the post to add more GI, but there are definitely games that could benefit from a spotlight or too. White, of course.
Quoted from kevmad:You didn't get the accent right. It's "Shoot heya and heya".
I was trying to think how I would type up an accent. Turns out, it's not easy.
Quoted from CaptainNeo:wow, a bear with camel toe.
Neo, only you would look at a bear's bitties.... 
Quoted from mrossman5:Why colored inserts???????
Colored inserts aren't the worst things in the world.
Quoted from Taxman:Because it pops!
This on the other hand... 
I would only use it for color matching inserts. If the insert is white, then I match it with the GI (which will be warm or natural).
I wasn't aware that those DemoMan inserts were supposed to be white. In that case...
one exception is TWD, I have the walker kill (crosshair) inserts as red, instead of white, because every insert on that game is white.
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Quoted from hAbO:Monster BLUE[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]
I love how just the "mummy' area is warm white because you know...obviously...sand.
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Quoted from Pablito350:Yowza indeed...[quoted image]
I'm sure this has been used before, but this is me quietly screaming inside right now.
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Quoted from CaptainNeo:yes. well the guy that I bought EFTLW from thought it looked good too, but you couldn't see shit on it. I think people that do this, don't actually play the games, they just stand 15 feet back and look at them on. They have to, because nobody , I mean NOBODY can play a game in a somewhat dark room.
I'm my early days, I played games on location with these kinds lights on them. At the time, I thought I just sucked really bad. It was because I was basically flipping blind. You cannot see anything when you have lights other than some form of white on the playfield. I remember playing a purpled out TAF and didn't know any better. It's already a very dark game with Comet 2SMD white lights. It was pretty much unplayable with purple everywhere.
Quoted from Marvin:its great on location, you can't see, you don't know better, you drop coins even faster.
More like, you cant see, your ball times are short, you walk away.
There were other locations that had better lit machines. If you have a variety of OPs, you learn quickly which machines play well and which don't.
Quoted from CaptainNeo:then lighting like this is ok.
No. it's is never ok. Not if you're into pinball. Are you ok?
Quoted from Mitch:Maybe your missing the point. This is a club for people who dont like rainbow GI.
It looks like shit. I've played at many different locations and houses over the years. Yes it looks like crap. Yes it makes it harder to play.
Yes your a idiot for coming to this thread trying to promote color gi.
Do us a favor there is a drain thread button use it so we dont have to see your shitty taste in LEDs. I've had over 250 machines many I've had to take color gi out of.
I've hosted league nights and tournaments and color gi is one of the biggest complaints of good players.
Go to replay fx the biggest tounament in the world with the best players and you wont see any color gi.
You obviously like to look at your games more then play them.
Once again it does look like shit and always will.
I'm sure you with your 2 years in the hobby and 4 machines will disagree because you think you are right but sorry your not.
I've added your pic again so everyone in this club can laugh at it some more.
Also I must have missed the star trek episode with the purple ships. Which episode was that again? Oh ya none of them because it would just be dumb.
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Shared 3 times?! (yeah, it's the same one I posted earlier in this page)
faaaaaccckkkk meeeeeee
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Quoted from wayout440:I highly doubt that, just by looking at some recent kit sales on just one source. That doesn't even include the myriad mods, individual color packs, LED strip lighting etc...[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]
I need to get into this business! My plan, buy a shit ton of random colored LEDs and throw them all into a big ass sack. Then put my kits together by grabbing random handfuls of LEDs and throwing them into a bag. Write up some bullshit about how this makes the game "pop" and look good and that you'll be the envy of all your friends...then BAM. Profit!
Quoted from PinballManiac40:A game room with unicorns and rainbows.[quoted image]
This is all I see. No game room to be found.
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Quoted from Rager170:Lol, i dont know about that. Ive never had an issue of not being able to see and play the game due to some lighting.
I have, and it's annoying as all get out, to the point that I certainly won't put money into a game with colored GI or even press start on a game set to free play. It is objectively more difficult to see the ball with colored GI than with white (any temperature).
Quoted from Rager170:Perhaps that's an eye problem and not a game color problem. Ive never had that issue, ever.
Some people do have an issue with their eyes and glare/reflections and things of that nature.</blockqu
giphy.gifQuoted from Rager170:Now im thinking I have the eye problem? I cant see anything in the post lol
No disrespect, but it is a laughing GIF. In any case, I won't argue with you about being able to see/not see the ball. I can't see the ball with colored GI, at least not nearly as well as with white.
Quoted from Rager170:Oh, no disrespect at all. But I was being serious. I know people who have issues for things like that and they are legally allowed to tint their windows past the legal limit due to them not being able to see correctly from glare and brightness.
I dont care if someone likes colors in their games or not, its a simple matter of opinion. But personally, I think people do in fact like colors in their games and that MM is going to sell for sure.
I just find it funny that the thread is called "worst GI fails" and ive seen a few times on here a stock game being made fun of.
I don't have an eye issue outside of "normal" eye issues (IE i'm near sighted)
Quoted from Rager170:Something is up if you cant play the game with color lights and tons of others have no problems...
No, nothing is up.
Quoted from CaptainNeo:that game would be banned from any league or tournament play due to the machine not being in playable condition.
Maybe there's something wrong with your eyes? 
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Quoted from MD_Pinball_Dude:Any issues with replacing all of the playfield lamps with some warm white LEDs to keep things nice and cool behind the artwork and under tight spaces? I just did my entire Big Deal (1977) with warm white LEDs (save the three under the upper lane guides that are now cool white to make the white caps really pop) I was amazed how hot the lamps were in some places. The LEDs also make the playfield inserts look great too. A quick calculation of the power requirements takes the power from 126 Watts down to just 10 if all 80 lamps are replaced.
No issues at all and preferred, I do all of my games in LEDs in some shade of white. Warm, sunlight, or natural depending on the era of the game. Lately, I've been using sunlight white vs warm white to make it less yellow in color, but still keep that "vintage" to older games. Incandescent lamps can get hot really quick.
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Quoted from TheLaw:Neon lipstick, and then sticking a black light 2 inches from it with 3 fingers gagging your throat and the other hand punching you in the fucking eyeballs yelling "cool right hahahaa isn't this cool!!!!"
Actually, at least that sounds like an interesting time.
Tell us how you really feel 
Quoted from CaptainNeo:I dont' know why stern is trying to do this. There is no way you can play that game like that. If it was a feature to only come on during 1 certain multiball, I could see it happening, because it would be a hard multiball like Tommy mode. But if the game is like that all the time. They are just trying to feed these assclowns more encouragement to pull this crap.
There's a (seemingly) random mode called The Upside Down. I believe this is when the UV lights turn on.
Quoted from hAbO:Aside from a few inserts, I always thought of Space Invaders and Centaur as having fantastic black and white art. The added color just cheapens the classic look.
It's too bad the gameplay on Space Invaders doesn't match up with the art package 
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Unfortunately, a lot of new folks fall prey to colored GI. They see kits and think that's the thing to do. They see a few posts that pump up rainbow puked games and think, that's what a modernized game looks like these days. FB is notorious for this. Props to Neo for fighting that fight on FB lol.
Profit margins are also higher on selling kits vs bulbs of one color (ie white). A pack of 100 bulbs will cost you $65 shipped and do most, if not a complete game, vs a kit that is $200+. The vendors know that, so they push it. So to answer your question, its probably a sliding scale of individual preference to what's being marketed.
Some people genuinely like the color bombed games...
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Quoted from PinballManiac40:Em-Blue-Haze-On
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What. In. The. Actual. F#ck.
Yeah bro, that looks great doood....
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Quoted from IdahoRealtor:Haven't you guys heard? People call this an upgrade these days.
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XMLE has colored LEDs in the GI. TNA, and R&M have RGB LEDs that will turn to all one color during a particular mode. If it's in the game, I won't change it. If it comes with incandescent with a condom, I'll change it to that color LED. Basically, whatever game from the factory is typically how I'll update with LEDs.
Quoted from tomdrum:I told the buyer to go easy with pink LED's. Proudly texted that pic saying he only installed 25 pink LED's. I responded "IMO that's 25 too many."
So sad. Looked to be a beautiful game otherwise.
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Quoted from CaptainNeo:it's beautiful colors if it's on your xmas tree.
No it's not. I even do my Xmas tree in Cool white. Maybe...MAYBE...on your house for Xmas. I'll start a new thread this year. No XMAS Tree Rainbow Puke Club!
2 weeks later
Glad to have you here making quality gifs and memes for our viewing pleasure...unlike someone else that frequents this club thread.
3 weeks later
Quoted from CaptainNeo:this to me, seems like someone ran out of white LED's and had to make due with what they had. It's such a weird setup, where the rest looks as it should.
No, this is a case of "tastefully LED'd"
Fuck, I hate that term. yeah, it's only tasteful if you like shit.
Quoted from Mr_Tantrum:Oh my.
But don't you see how good that looks? I'm mean, it's so dark, it looks great right? I can see the ball plainly with my NIGHT VISION GOGGLES!!!!
Quoted from snowy_owl:Brand new game, and already turned blue with more pukestadiums...
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ZY creates some of the best artwork in all of pinball. Why the hell would you destroy it like this? Plus the zebra ramps. jfc
Quoted from koji:Surprised nobody posted this yet.. oh well, I'll add it so we may keep the collection complete.
Time to get your patriotism on.
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Was coming here just to post it! Liberty Puke.
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