OK, Ill take the Blame...its my Fault.

What would you do?

Maybe 300 plus pictures and personal emails sharing the games that pinsiders LED.

All kings of lighting.....some, that are foreign even to pics already posted!

Its like showing a picture of your infant to someone....no one is going to say, "what an ugly baby!".

How come none of you anti-pukers have pics of your game rooms?

Ummmmm....... because it's a thread for pictures of clown puked games, I don't have clown puked games, so no pictures for this thread.

Not really that hard to understand.

Not I Art. I think some of the games that have been posted look absolutely horrible.

It doesn't mean I think the person that did it is horrible, stupid, incompetent, lacks any semblance of taste or intelligence, has visual deficits, or shouldn't be in the hobby.

Ummmmmm, yeah, we can just take your word at value. All incans or cool white in your games. Gotcha. If that's really true, that's great and your taste.

To be honest though, I would be surprised to the utmost if one person advocating for this thread or making fun of others doesn't have one clump of colored LEDs somewhere in at least one of their games. Whether that's considered "clown or rainbow puked" doesn't matter. The comments have been "no color at all in the PF GI."

Experimenting with my Stern Drac...mock away

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And a 2 week time-out for this one. So we laugh again. This is trolling, are you condoning the trolling?

Yes, I guess it is funny. Is it time for another troll to go away?

Look, it is simple. Those game look horrible. You have to be kidding to be defending them so we think of it as a back and forth joke. But when someone comes in purposely talking stupid over and over it is annoying trolling. Nothing to do with the puking.

Oh my!

This guy's hobby is to write posts insisting that everyone is "triggered".

It seems very important to him, he does it over and over again.

And this guy is constantly explaining to people about how they should think and act.

Over and over again.

I'm so triggered that I'm just purple and blue with anger.

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Fail in my book also. The usual Red Slings and Blue blob up top seem almost a staple for the pukers. But you did a couple of extra strange things. The upper pop was white with red trim to have contrast. So turning it all red makes no sense. The blue pop is just wrong looking.

I am including my last order from Comet.

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That Fire! Is gorgeous. I'm not kidding, I'd be proud to have that in my game room.

I have to admit, when I saw the Fire!, I thought "that looks pretty nice, it works for that game."

I can’t believe anyone would try to convince others that something looks good/bad. Crazy dude!

Yet I still manage to actually stick to the point of the thread and post pics!

Lighten up francis! Less whining/trolling and more pic’ing!

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looks really good. Nice work.

see, you don't really have to convince anyone of anything. The point is, people should be telling other people their real thoughts on things like this. People that keep telling these people that , "it looks good"...or "good job dude", when they really think it looks horrible. Helps nobody. If people actually said what they were thinking. and the person that did it, gets the, "dude, that looks terrible". 94% of the time. Eventually, he's going to think to himself. ...."hummm, maybe it really does look like shit?". Then they come to their senses and realize it isn't practical for gameplay, and does bleach out all the art.

Yeah, with respect and humility. Not disrespectful, condescending and curmudgeonly, like you.

I try to get people into this hobby, help out and expand it, not get people out of it and make them feel like shit like you're doing. Congrats on starting a thread that makes more people inclined to get out of the hobby, or not like other people that are in it. Other than you, Tax, and the other three people that keep chiming in as advocates. Kudos to your little group.

It makes sense to me. Another reason photos don't work for this. They have RGB's in them, neither is straight red or blue. They change colors. It cycles through white, yellow, red, green and blue. All the colors for the PF art in front of the drop targets at the top of the game.

And just FYI for future knowledge, the top bumper on Dracula is passive, not a pop bumper.

Pretty sneaky sis! Unfortunately no matter how many times I tell my kids that Brussels sprouts are delicious and that they are wrong to hate them, they haven’t come to their senses yet!

Now back to pics!!!

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my kid actually likes them. If you make them right, they will like them because they are actually sweet (White LED's). If you make them wrong they are bitter (Colored LED's in the GI's).

Butter makes everything Better!

I just find it fun to watch all the thread ejects and temporary ejects.

Agreed! Unless you
Doctor up those boring bland sprouts with some colorful and flavorful ingredients like butter (colored LEDS) and bacon (backbox led kits) the kids will never be convinced!

Welp I’m convinced!

Now, cmon slackers, back to pics!

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That's Condition Green isn't it?

Yup, but it should be changed to all white. Even though it's part of the rule set, green is stupid and should not be part of that game GI.

Really, very cool feature, and I like blue LED's in Space Station too.

Steamed fresh brussels are great. Nice and sweet, full of flavor. doesn't need anything. If they need some coaxing into it, use melted cheese over the top. If they have a good first experience, they would have liked them from the get go.

It's kind of like a pinball machine. If someone hasn't played a game before, and the first game they ever play, has colored LED's so they can't see the ball. Flippers misaligned. Leveled off to one side. They are not going to have a good experience playing that game, and they will have a bad vibe from that game ever since. So that game is ruined for them until they play a good machine.

People can be converted to give second chances on games, that are leveled correctly. White GI's so they can see the ball. Correctly aligned flippers, and rebuilt flippers for full power.

interesting! My kids tried them that way the first time and now they are ruined on Brussels forever!! Guess humans just have different tastes sometimes.

As for vision issues, i put bifocals in my pins cup holders for the...ahem...older folks.

Cheers and thanks for all of the advice!

Now, less cookin and more pic of disastrous pins!!

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made right the first time. That would be amazing. I spent my whole life thinking brussel sprouts were supposed to be bitter, because nobody on the planet seemed to be able to make them correctly. No restaurants, family members or anyone. Wasn't until about 8 years ago with some experimenting, that I figured out they could taste good and be sweet. Must be genetic engineering. If they don't like them now, they will grow out of the phase and like them down the road. When practical outweighs the candy.

Kids would eat crap if you let them. they need someone sensible to guide them in the right direction. Eventually they will see the light, and make the right choices down the road with proper guidance.

Yeah but by then they’ll be old, ‘practical’, and telling other people what they should like!

Now, more pics!!

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Yup, my game. I don't recall that I ever posted that image as a non-.gif Should be...

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In any event, I used LEDs to replace what were bulbs with colored bulb condoms. Everything else is incandescent and I like to think of myself as an anti-clown-rainbow-puker.

But you think the brussel sprout thing is a good excuse. But you have more choices for healthy veggies besides brussel sprouts. Just like you do have options to do your GI's correctly. Lets examine this.

Kids need to eat healthy things for dinner. Packed full of vitamins.

Good choices are:
Broccoli
Brussels Sprouts
Carrots
Cauliflower
Peas
Green beans

(equal to)
Cool white LEDs
Incandescents
Warm White
Sunlight/daylight (there are subtle differences between warm and sunlights. Warm has a more yellow hue)

Things you should not have your kids eat for dinner

Gummy bears
Skittles
Jolly rangers
Salt Water taffy

(equal to)

Any colored LED's in a GI area

Now......sure, you CAN have your kids eat candy for dinner. Is it a good idea? Absolutely not. Because they will get sick eventually, just like the people that have to play games with colored bulbs in the GI's. Just because you can do something, doesn't mean it's not a dumb idea. And it's not about personal taste.

Look at that great Fish Tales artwork!

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Agreed. Old people should see optometrists.

Taking care of oneself is important. Especially if lightbulbs make you sick.

Thanks again!!!

Would this be considered clown puke?

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Not sure, but it looks pretty tasty.

I am not sure why you continue to pick on people because of their age.

Yes I am older and the LEDs hurt my eyes. I do go to an optometrist and I do have prescription bi-focals. The focal range of these is not useful for Pinball and has nothing to do with light pain.

It is a fact that blue light is implicated in the development of age-related macular degeneration. Not just aggravated by the light.

Why is the fact that I experience actual pain funny to you?

The earlier pictures of Fire and Dr Who are not horrible. I thought that is the way Fire looks.

A bad DW would be something like this -

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Yes, that IS bad. Even the outhole glows of purple!

Dear mother of God!!

I’m glad you are taking care of yourself. I suggest staying out of clown pukers basements. For your eyes but also because clown pukers MAY be serial killers (so it’s been said).

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no. but if you sprinkled skittles or jolly ranchers on top, now it would be equal to clown puke as far as healthiness goes.

It would be if I put on a clown suit and ate it.

Dinner time!

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These lights make me wanna wear glasses that could revert this purple shame-
I wonder if people that do these disasters then really play the game or keep passing time "testing" new horrendous bulbs on their pins.
The more time I spent on this thread the more I love classic old warm bulbs... I just reverted half of my Jack Bot...and gonna chek the others.

It's gettin weird around here

There's a discussion of food going on at this point.

Should I point out that this thread is a club specifically for people who hate clown puke?

Somehow that idea has resulted in endless admonishments from the clown puke fans about not telling other people what to like or not like.

The sentence "I don't like clown puke" is being purposely misread as "Nobody is allowed to like clown puke."

The only reason that this thread exists is because nobody will admit in the other threads that they think the puked games look awful, because it's considered impolite to criticize other people's games.

It would be interesting to post up a picture of a typical smurfed-up game and do a poll to see what percent of pinsiders like it.

Not that your purple glowing playfield isn't FABULOUS. And that translite with the blobs of random color. EXQUISITE!

I just came up with the ultimate pinball accessory:

Why color-blob-LED the game when you can blob your eyes and CUT OUT THE MIDDLEMAN?

Welcome to the pinball revolution

If your game is already a rainbow of delightful artistry, now it will EXPLODE with color.

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those glasses should be something for pinball olympics. They would fit the part quite well.

There should be a rainbow puke olympics.

Possible event categories:

Most Purple

Most Bright

Most Random

Most Monocromatic

Most Un-Monocromatic

Most Mismatched Artwork and Lighting

Some thoughts about "white kits".

I know someone who bought multiple kits and started installing them. First one: a little purple, but obviously a lot brighter than a game with dim and dirty incandescents. Second one: again, brightens up the game...but also has that purple haze. Third one: now I'm thinking, are all the games going to be turned purple?

Fourth kit: I'm looking at it...wow, really brightens up the game a lot. I can see! This conversation ensues:

Him: "I'm never buying from [redacted] again".
Me: "Why not?"
Him: "Every single bulb was white".

Now, this is not someone who likes to color bomb games. This is someone who had incandescents in all his games, and then decided to buy a few LED kits.

I worry that there isn't a market for all white kits. For two reasons: 1) Anyone who knows that they want an all white kit will probably just make it themselves. 2) As shown in the above story, anyone who doesn't know is going to feel ripped off to find that the kit is made up of nothing more than wedges and bayonets of the same bulb. What are they paying for exactly?

Before your blood boils, let me state that I prefer almost entirely white GI in my games. If I do add a few colors, it's almost certainly going to be all the way in the back, where the ball is likely obscured anyway. There is a kit of mine earlier in the thread that gets picked on...and I think it's the only one that uses any colored GI in the lower half of the playfield at all. (And, as they always say, it doesn't look like that in person.)

While making a kit for AC/DC, I tried to use color, but I couldn't. Nothing looked right. When I was finished with a clean, bright, nice looking game - my friend said: "It's too white. Why are you terrified of using color?".

When I make a kit (which granted, is a new product for us in the last few months), I'm hoping that it will appeal to someone who doesn't know enough about LEDs yet to feel comfortable building their own. Hopefully my kit will give them a little more knowledge and confidence to go the DIY route next time. It's a disaster if the buyer feels ripped off when all the bulbs in the bag are identical.

So, kind people in this thread, I ask you: would you buy all white kits? I think most of you are comfortable making your own. But, I'd love to be proven wrong.