... not sure if I should thumbs up for some good examples, or thumb down for the gawd awful LED jobs.

Great thread buddy. I remember the ultra green Congo. (Now, if we could just get that colour-changing mystery insert out of there... Lol)

It is short-sighted to call members of this club "haters" and I would surmise that those who do so are not competitive players. As RJW alluded to, you are choosing aesthetics over playability when you use colour GI (and/or incorrect flipper bats).

It is particularly annoying in the competitive environment. Playing in a tournament last weekend, there were a few rainbow puke games that made ball tracking very difficult. On F-14, when the ball was in the upper PF area you could barely see it.

Think about playing during multiball and how much tracking that your eyes are doing, quick checks here and there, slight glances, trying to make nudge saves on the outlanes while hitting a jackpot shot at the same time. All of this is made incredibly more difficult when visibility drops.

Just say no to colour GI. If you absolutely must use colour, a painted incandescent bulb has less negative effects on artwork and visibility.

Color'ed LED's in the GI should be used sparingly IMO. If you want that original look use "warm" white.

I've used Cointaker LED's with herg 's LED/OCD board in my games. The board and software allow you to set each individual LED's brightness easily. In defense to some, the colors are always exaggerated when taking pictures of LED'ed games.

That last part is true. The games I have had with color led always look more colorful in pictures

No clown puke in this house!

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Dammit, that deaf, dumb, and blind kid sure made a mess of things with what he started.

That Terminator 3 has got to be my favorite example of bad GI. It literally looks like a corrupted video game that loaded all the wrong color palettes.

Except for that clock

Hey now! I kinda dig the blue and white.

Purple and pink bulbs have absolutely no business in a pinball machine, unless you happen to own a My Little Pony machine or something along those lines.

Keith turned Hobbit attract mode into a skittles barf-o-Rama. Someone else can post a pic cause it hurts my eyes too much.

Two more Abominations!

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Wow that Whitewater looks like the Arctic Adventure or Matterhorn Mayhem now.

they didn't make bigfoot look like bumble. They should have went with the cool white for that one. Would still have given that effect, but made it so you can actually see something.

That black hole looks good. Everyone wants immersive pinball. Now if your floating around in space there is probably not alot of warm white light. I think the blue enhances the theme on this one. Can I say that or is this thread only for negative commentary?

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This was my whole point from earlier. Whether it looks good or not is up for debate (I think it looks bad) but that LED job was done taking into account how it looks without giving any consideration to how it will play.

I certainly don't want 'immersive pinball' at the expense of being able to see/track the ball. I'm sure some can see/track the ball in that lighting but I sure can't.

And like Maken said, in a competitive environment those gaudy color GI LED jobs should be outlawed.

For your next trick, are you going to go into the mod removers club and tell them all about the plastic toys you like to plaster all over your games?

Fair enough. The LEDs do emit more lumens than an incandescent and are actually brighter though a different hue. Some people think my girlfriend is fat, I think she looks good, but she's sexiest in the dark.

Is it acceptable to down vote any posted opinion we disagree with?

FYI, did you know the Human eye can't really focus on blue light? For proof, next time you are diving at night and see a business sign lit up exclusively in blue, see how well you can make out the detail (if at all). This is why early Word Processor programs used Blue as the background so your eyes could more easily focus on the lettering on the screen.

So are you saying with the blue GI background light it would be easier to focus on the silver ball? Makes sense.

Not if the only thing lighting it up is Blue LED light. But if there were enough ambient room light, then what you state would probably be true.

Uh, no it doesn't. You make it sound like the pinball glows silver independent of what GI is in the machine. If the whole game is blue GI, the pinball itself is reflecting blue light, which makes it 'disappear' into the playfield.

I'm seriously scratching my head at some of the posts in this thread. It's like people either don't read the thread title, feel it's their duty to try to make everyone's opinion the same as theirs or they are just trolling.

Well, "disappear" seems like it might be an exaggeration.

I think most of these machines look good. Not always my taste and ofcourse it can be done very wrong. But you can do a lot of cool things with LEDS. Best thing, if you don't like it, put in the lights you like. LED's aren't expensive and normal lamps are super cheap. No big deal

Thanks for your incredibly valuable contribution to this thread.

If you're done now, please leave and let the rest of us discuss the topic without your pointless trolling.

I'd suggest heading over to the Alien thread to tell them all how much you think that game sucks.

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You'll have blue and like it!

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Wow. That TZ is horrendous! Anyone who disagrees doesn't have any aesthetic sense and should not be allowed to "decorate" anything.

most games look bad with color in GI, but my BSD has blue/purple and i like it. when i got my tron it had the crazy bright multi leds in blue and i changed that right away. but, to each his/her own. if its their game and they like how it looks, thats all that really matters. if its too annoying for other people to play they wont have many friends playing pinball with them lol

says the guy in a bowler hat and suspenders. But honestly I applaud your uniqueness and style like we should do for anyone trying to express their own creativity even if its just playing with LEDs.

My avatar isn't me. Its King Crimson guitarist Robert Fripp. I'm all for experimenting on your own, but this is a thread making fun of poor lighting choices.

That AFM looks awesome.

Another fun thing about LEDs in GI is that awesome 60Hz flicker you get! Nothing like trying to play pinball while you're having a seizure.

That Pharaoh is hot....

Ow! Ow! Ow!

I never made these products to be so badly abused!

I've never seen some of these pics before.

I hope those that do this don't do So with their Christmas lights!

( or light their Menorah with RGB or colored bulbs!)

have you ever played black hole? It's hard enough to see with normal lights. This would be damn near impossible to play unless you had it setup in the middle of your yard in the middle of summer afternoon.

pics so we can judge.

These are the kind of guys who buy those LED Christmas light projectors and think it looks good.

Who Dey, you really are a trolling piece of shit. Biggest troll on pinside. You have nearly 1200 downvotes, whats the all time record?

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I think we need to buy as many blue LED's as possible, just to have a destruction party. Have a get together and smash the sh!+ outta them!

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Did you post in the wrong thread?

Blue washes out all artwork and makes it impossible to track the ball. How do so many people not see that! Is there such a thing as blue light tolerance? That's the only explanation I have.

No, that troll follows him around down voting his posts regardless of the content.

Pretty immature.