Doesn’t matter. It’s a flawed system scored by fanboys and haters from all sides. Buy what you like and don’t worry about other peoples opinions.

Or maybe they are putting out some really fun games?

I have 2 JJP pins (Woz and DI) and love them both, I could have bought them all if had wanted to, but instead have bought 4 Sterns in a row and 6 out of the past 7 have been Stern pins.

The Stern pins are more fun (to me) and have better themes: SW, DP, JP, GZ over Wonka or GnR.

I agree with everything said here, though the list once again is subjective, some would argue Iron Maiden is Keith’s best game. My favorite Keith pin (AIQ) is what a lot of people would call his worst pin. So again buy what you like.

It tracks

Dialed In is a great game but the others? Some fine, some awful. In the end, who cares about popularity contests? You like what you like.

I’ve tried to like JJP pins. I get excited about them, try them, but they never really grab me. They are just okay. I had a Wonka. I know a lot of people love it but I didn’t think it was fun, which is how I end up feeling about most JJP pins. Maybe the next JJP release will be different for me!

There are some JJP games on my personal Top 10 list and that's what matters in the end to me.

The system has no flaws and is an iron-clad representation of the true rankings of pinball machines.

Jjp is just going to have to try harder.

I think if JJP would put POTC back in production so more people could play and rate it, this would change quickly. Amazing game, better than many of the current top 10.

I think the top 100 list is dumb. But imagining for a moment it has some significance, one could point out that all of JJPs games are in the top 40. And say that is some kind of accomplishment.

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JJP games don't come out fast enough to be on the top 10 for very long.

Don’t care as pretty much anything in the top 50 is now considered great, top 25 amazing. This is due to there being such a large number of fun games released over the past 15 years.

What you should be focusing on is how all 6 JJP games are in the top 41 games on Pinside. That’s damn good, even with what many consider a flawed ranking system, when there’s so many great pins now out.

Yea,the list is skewed. I don't think so as much with the EM list but I know a lot of people watching the list have no interest in EM's. I think there is less pumping of games on the EM list. They've been around so long that people tend to know what's good and what isn't.

In just the few months I've been following things here closely, it's clear the list is subject to manipulation. Cactus Canyon the #2 best game? It's not even the second best game released in 1998 (Monster Bash and Champion Pub were better; CC was half-baked and rushed as W/B threw effort into P2K). I remember playing all these releases at my distributor (Mountain Coin, may they RIP). CC is among the worst of the WPC95 games IMHO.

Only the reissue by CGC and a bunch of biased, recent reviews have pushed this up the list. I tend to ignore any game less than 2-3 years old in the rankings. that said, the JJP games are a different beast. They feel and play differently than Stern Spike/S2. If you're accustomed to the spikey (pun intended) flippers of the Sterns, you probably think JJP is "floaty" or somesuch. Another element of great importance to me that isn't even ranked in reviews here is build quality. One look at JJPs, and its clear they're on a completely different level than Stern. Just look at the backbox. The monitor mounts on the JJP are a thing of beauty. Sterns are mass-produced with cheap hardware and it shows. To each his own. YMMV.

While it is true there's no pumping the new EM games, for some reason that list is even worse. SkyRocket number 1?

At least the games on the solid state list get enough votes to even out the superfans and the brand bashers. Its just that today's top 60 are the equivalent in excellentness to 2005's top 10.

The ratings aren't everything, but they're something.

I mean... which one really deserves to be there? Pirates, I assume. And how disappinting that a game proven to be subpar rockets to the top because, what? It's new and people who own it have to pump it up, suddenly? In what world is that game better than afm or mm?

Last time I cared about the Top 100 was when ACDC was released (the first time...not VEs)

Yep - Pinside's Top 100 ranking for EMs is a total joke.

If you are new, just keep following things a bit longer and you will see the pattern. Cactus Canyon won’t stay at #2.

You do know that CGC has completed and enhanced the CC code for the remake, right? I believe the CC remake is top 10 worthy and is a better game than MB (and I own MB). But I would concur with you that the original CC is not a top 10 game.

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Jumping in late to this thread, but I've observed in most communities the new thing is always going to score better than it should.

I'd love to see a variation of the top 100 list that excluded all currently-in-production models up to about 3 years old. (A crude version of this is just a custom list through 2018: https://pinside.com/pinball/top-100/custom?gamefamily=custom&only_games_from=1930&only_games_to=2018 but it doesn't combine variations, so its not perfect).