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DONE! PICS UP!No catchy thread title this time, just a Funhouse restoration...

By cosmokramer

1 year ago


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#51 1 year ago
Quoted from cosmokramer:

I know some pinsiders like to weld a hole like this up and grind it down, but thats not how I do it. Quite a few restorations ago I had to deal with a similar problem with a pinbot coin door. I know some of you may frown upon this solution, but I like it. If you acquire a game and notice this coin door repair, you know you have a genuine cosmo restored game.
More on that in a bit...

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I used epoxy to attach a quarter minted in 1990, the same year as Funhouse. Then filled the hole with bondo.

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#52 1 year ago

The finished product (with the exception of the decal mentioned a few posts above)

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Safely packaged up for later...

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#53 1 year ago

Glad to have the coin door behind me,. Moving on to a tedious set of tasks...regraining the ball guides (this game has a bunch), and I have 1 large ziploc bag of parts that need buffing and 1 bag of parts that need to go in the tumbler.

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#54 1 year ago

This disc is used to feed the ball, it shows some signs of wear. Im sure it could be ground down and cleaned up, but I have a replacement so I will just go ahead and replace it.

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There is a lot of parts and a lot of hand polishing in my future

#55 1 year ago

Coin repair for coin door. Perfect!

Try slow color chargers behind the clear coin push returns. I think that would fit the theme.

#56 1 year ago

Re graining ball guides...I used to dread this part. I tried scotch brite pads and wet sanding like I have seen others do. Its a lot if work and if your not careful the graining can appear wavy, crooked and generally crappy. I solved this problem by using a 3m sanding drum on my drill press. I set the sander just a hair higher than the deck...

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Then take a ball guide

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And set it on the drill press, keeping it firm on the deck...
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End result is perfectly parallel graining, looks just like factory

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#57 1 year ago
Quoted from cosmokramer:

The finished product (with the exception of the decal mentioned a few posts above)
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Safely packaged up for later...
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Perfect...

#58 1 year ago

Received another box from Marcos.... with the exception of the pinsound equipment I think I have about 97% of parts I need. Im sure a few more items will pop up once I start rebuilding all the mechs.
I am keeping track of $ spent on this project, I have tried to avoid doing this on some other restorations because I spent more than the game was worth. I will post that info at the end of the project.

Taking off for Vegas today so there wont be any work done for a few days. I will be visiting the PHOF, I understand that they just opened a new location and looking forward to checking it out.

#59 1 year ago

This afternoon I was able to work through the ball guides and such...

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Got the bulk of the big stuff, including the incredibly large rear guide (not shown) done...

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#60 1 year ago

Hand polished the wire forms and cleaned blue pads...
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#61 1 year ago

One of the ramp switches had a shoddy looking splice in the harness...

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Turns out it wasnt a splice, just an area where the insulation had been damaged and some wire was exposed. I slid a piece of shrink tube over the damaged wire and heated...

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My guess is this area of the harness may be prone to rubbing between the cabinet and playfield, I though it best to add another shrink tube over both wires for added protection...

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#62 1 year ago

Finished polishing the last bit of smaller parts last night.
Today its time to fire up the tumbler...
I take a reasonable amount of grouped parts and snap a pic so I can regroup them when they get out...

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I take a look at the media in the tumbler...its dusty, somewhat rounded and worn. Leftovers from the last project...
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New crushed walnut media...

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I fill up the tumbler with some fresh shells...

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Pop in the parts, put on the cover, turn it on and check back in a few days...

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#63 1 year ago

While that stuff is baking in the tumbler I turn my attention to the light boards, small opto and power driver from under the playfield. These are in great shape, just dirty...

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I remove the bulbs and the lamp sockets...

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Bulbs go in the trash, sockets and boards into the untrasonic....

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#64 1 year ago

Following...

Funhouse is one of my favorite games! It's also the first game I bought in 92' that got me started in the amazing hobby.

#65 1 year ago

Damn...as I start to put the light boards back together I realize that I forgot flashers when I placed my Comet order... I will get a count together and get those ordered.

Whats the best place to order the OCD boards, from Comet as well?

#66 1 year ago

For the coin door -

How long did you leave paint can in the freezer? And do you still need to do the sort-of- half spraying technique?

Came out great.

#67 1 year ago
Quoted from Elicash:

Came out great

Thanks!

The can started at room temp (68°) I put it in the freezer for 30 min, tried it but it wasnt quite ready, put the can back in freezer another 15 min and it was good to go. You still need to depress the tip only 15-20% but the cold paint splatters better.

#68 1 year ago
Quoted from cosmokramer:

Damn...as I start to put the light boards back together I realize that I forgot flashers when I placed my Comet order... I will get a count together and get those ordered.
Whats the best place to order the OCD boards, from Comet as well?

I order from Comet if for no other reason to make sure they have my business.

Chilling the spatter paint is a marvelous idea, I can't wait to try that.

#69 1 year ago

Just order directly from ocd. I recommend the mounting brackets. They are cheap and no extra holes needed in cab to secure boards.

http://ledocd.com/cart/

#70 1 year ago

After a toothbrush scrub and a rinse with clean water the board and lamp sockets are COMPLETELY dried with compressed air...

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They shine like new!
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Next I reassemble the boards with new comet bulbs...

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And again these get packaged up for safe keeping, another component that is plug and play and ready when reassembly begins...

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#71 1 year ago

When I went to get the box from comet, I came across the box of parts back from modfather and decided to take a peek...

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Although I want to keep this fairly stock looking, the painted Rudy should look great without being *too* different

#72 1 year ago

Now my plan is to move on to the insert board. I thought I could just give it a quick general cleaning with some new white paint on the front and be done with it. It has some blue overspray on it from a long ago repaint of the head (in the wrong color blue)

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Upon further inspection I find several cooked, brittle broken lamp sockets with a few missing one side or the other. I dont really have any confidence in them...
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I am sometimes reminded of how many different bulbs there are in these games. When I was doing a WH20 awhile back I used the wrong bulbs in the topper, not knowing there was a special bulb for them. In Funhouse I came across these round bulbs and thought maybe someone had put them in by error years ago...

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But, it just turns out to be a specialty bulb that blinks on its own and is just yet another part to add to a new shopping list.
I also learned that the cooked sockets for the insert board are not available and I have to use a screw on replacement so the list quickly gets longer...

#73 1 year ago
Quoted from cosmokramer:

Now my plan is to move on to the insert board. I thought I could just give it a quick general cleaning with some new white paint on the front and be done with it. It has some blue overspray on it from a long ago repaint of the head (in the wrong color blue)
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Upon further inspection I find several cooked, brittle broken lamp sockets with a few missing one side or the other. I dont really have any confidence in them...
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I am sometimes reminded of how many different bulbs there are in these games. When I was doing a WH20 awhile back I used the wrong bulbs in the topper, not knowing there was a special bulb for them. In Funhouse I came across these round bulbs and thought maybe someone had put them in by error years ago...
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But, it just turns out to be a specialty bulb that blinks on its own and is just yet another part to add to a new shopping list.
I learned that the cooked sockets for the insert board are not available and I have to use a screw on replacement so the list quickly gets longer...

If you find a blinking LEd that you like there please post it. I tried two different ones and the speed that they would blink didnt look right to me. I ended up leaving the originals.

#74 1 year ago
Quoted from topkat:

If you find a blinking LEd that you like there please post it. I tried two different ones and the speed that they would blink didnt look right to me. I ended up leaving the originals.

Do you recall which ones you have tried already?

#75 1 year ago

I've also been looking for a blinking bulb solution for Stars. Using Comet Retros everywhere else but haven't yet found a good one for the back box blinkers... will keep an eye out here if anyone has leads

#76 1 year ago
Quoted from JLay:

I've also been looking for a blinking bulb solution for Stars. Using Comet Retros everywhere else but haven't yet found a good one for the back box blinkers... will keep an eye out here if anyone has leads

I recall purchasing both fast and slow blinkers from Comet is that not an option?

#77 1 year ago
Quoted from monkfe:

I recall purchasing both fast and slow blinkers from Comet is that not an option?

They were out of stock when I checked but looks like there may be some in now... do you know if their warm white will look similar to their retro LEDs or will there be a noticeable difference?

#78 1 year ago
Quoted from cosmokramer:

Do you recall which ones you have tried already?

Comet had two led blinker bulbs ( a fast and a slow) ..the bulbs themselves work fine, it just seemed to me the pattern in funhouse was not the same as the hal with either of the bulbs.

#79 1 year ago
Quoted from JLay:

They were out of stock when I checked but looks like there may be some in now... do you know if their warm white will look similar to their retro LEDs or will there be a noticeable difference?

not sure they offered them in a warm and I used them in my TAF, so I don't know how they would look on the FH or why they would be any different...

#80 1 year ago
Quoted from topkat:

Comet had two led blinker bulbs ( a fast and a slow) ..the bulbs themselves work fine, it just seemed to me the pattern in funhouse was not the same as the hal with either of the bulbs.

Hmmm, those were the ones I was going to try. I guess I will wait awhile to see if anyone chimes in with an acceptable alternative. Im just afraid that if I use OG incandescent blinky bulbs it will look noticeably different from the sunlight comet frosted bulbs I am using for GI.

#81 1 year ago

I need to shelf the insert panel while I wait for new lamp sockets, I will revisit that next week.

Time to tackle the transformer. This one is dirty but is by far in the best overall shape of any recent game from this era I have worked on...

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That red wire threw me off a bit, at first I thought it might be a hack but after a little snooping online I found it to be correct.

I usually remove the mounting brackets, then strip the varnish from them and polish. Along with that I would repaint the transformer housing with black BBQ spray paint and wash the harness.
This one may clean up good enough to look great but still be original. If not then I will strip it down and proceed with the above course of action.
Lets see what happens...

#82 1 year ago

Nothing fancy in this first step. Simple tools and methods...

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First I hit it with a dry toothbrush and use compressed air to remove a good deal of the grit. I use a cloth with some simple green to clean up the serial # tag and the housing. I also use the moist cloth to individually clean the first inch or so of each wire where it connects to the transformer. I only worry about the first bit of wire, I dont want to get any moisture in where the connections are made. After that I switch to a spray bottle and toothbrush to make short work of the rest of the harness and the connectors. I can saturate these areas as much as I want with no worry. Then a wipe down with fresh water followed by a clean dry cloth and compressed air to dry.

Results after first cleaning...

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#83 1 year ago
Quoted from cosmokramer:

Hmmm, those were the ones I was going to try. I guess I will wait awhile to see if anyone chimes in with an acceptable alternative. Im just afraid that if I use OG incandescent blinky bulbs it will look noticeably different from the sunlight comet frosted bulbs I am using for GI.

I think you will be ok color wise - it will be the dimness between the other bulbs that you'll have to feel out. I prefer single LED bulbs for that brightness delta. Just know the OG filament blinkies are hard to find as well.

#84 1 year ago
Quoted from cosmokramer:

Do you recall which ones you have tried already?

I used the #455 slow blinkers from comet.

They blink exactly the same as the #455 i took out.

I did have to add a regular frosted led as the first position in (far left blinker) the upper #455 string, after i installed the GIOCD board.

Something about how blinkers kill the power in a string.

Pulling out that blinker and replacing it with a regular LED fixed it and the rest of the string started blinking immediately.

Oddly, they worked perfectly before installing the GIOCD.

#85 1 year ago

Im going to leave the transformer as-is after a good cleaning. There are some dings on the top of the housing that im not too thrilled about but they are minor and even if I repaint it they will still be just as visible. Very little corrosion anywhere on this game, usually these transformers need more attention.

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#86 1 year ago

Time to check back in with the tumbler...

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Looks good at first glance...

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A wipe with a clean soft and they look great...

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A quick wipe down of the rest of the parts from the first batch and its time to reload it and let it run.

#87 1 year ago

GI OCD ordered
LED OCD ordered

Also trying to order a set of red rails from Reese Rails. I usually cut and lacquer my own but I saw a pic from pinballinreno that looked stunning.
By the time I get some oak, cut and finish it, then try to source the proper color red I think Im better off just ordering them this time.

#88 1 year ago
Quoted from cosmokramer:

GI OCD ordered
LED OCD ordered
Also trying to order a set of red rails from Reese Rails. I usually cut and lacquer my own but I saw a pic from pinballinreno that looked stunning.
By the time I get some oak, cut and finish it, then try to source the proper color red I think Im better off just ordering them this time.

Yup it the way to go...he makes great stuff

#89 1 year ago

Buff...polish... repeat
Buff...polish....repeat
With the occasional set of parts through the ultrasonic...
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#90 1 year ago
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#91 1 year ago

Two packages showed up today...

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What could they be...

#92 1 year ago

First one is no surprise...

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Looks interesting, its a lot of stuff to fit in the back box...I got the mounting brackets they offer as well

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#93 1 year ago

Theres another one...this one Im very excited about.

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#94 1 year ago

Looks like a box that would hold a new LED display?

#95 1 year ago
Quoted from Completist:

Looks like a box that would hold a new LED display?

Nope, thats already waiting in the pile of parts.
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This box contains (sort of) unobtanium in it...

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25 original style insert board lamp sockets!

#96 1 year ago

are you going to tell us where you found them............Please?

#97 1 year ago
Quoted from cosmokramer:

I also learned that the cooked sockets for the insert board are not available and I have to use a screw on replacement

Not so fast!
I have found in almost every restoration that I have documented (and a few that I did not) someone has stepped up and offered a needed part(s) without solicitation. This time I received a pm from pinsider ismiglif, he was kind enough to offer me the last few lamp sockets he had stashed away. Thanks Chris, I owe you one buddy!

#98 1 year ago
Quoted from cosmokramer:

First one is no surprise...
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Looks interesting, its a lot of stuff to fit in the back box...I got the mounting brackets they offer as well
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Do you have an insulator for the small PCB?
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/club-led-ocd-tips-tricks-thoughts-and-advice/page/13#post-4854971

#99 1 year ago
Quoted from cosmokramer:

GI OCD ordered
LED OCD ordered
Also trying to order a set of red rails from Reese Rails. I usually cut and lacquer my own but I saw a pic from pinballinreno that looked stunning.
By the time I get some oak, cut and finish it, then try to source the proper color red I think Im better off just ordering them this time.

Is it difficult to change out the rails and install Reese Rails on a Funhouse? Is there any guide out there?

#100 1 year ago
Quoted from sb33334:

Is it difficult to change out the rails and install Reese Rails on a Funhouse? Is there any guide out there?

Nope...they fit just like the originals...

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