Cactus Canyon
Bally, 1998Hey guys not if there are rules about posting eBay but saw this and wanted to share. Interesting that it came from factory with lock down bar. Did they come like that back in the day?
ebay.com link: CACTUS CANYON Pinball machine by Bally New In Box with collector plaque
Quoted from kaneda:Did they come like that back in the day?
all WPC95 games had lockbar brackets installed from factory.
I think I would rather buy one for about $10K and then send it to HEP rather than spend $20K for one NIB.
Still, pretty neat that there are still NIB Cactus Canyons in the world.
Quoted from kaneda:Hey guys not if there are rules about posting eBay but saw this and wanted to share.
I am checking with Robin about how he would like to handle links to eBay. I believe it is ok as long as you are not deliberately trying to circumvent the Market Tool. In this particular case, I do not believe that is such an attempt.
Marcus
Quoted from kaneda:Hey guys not if there are rules about posting eBay but saw this and wanted to share. Interesting that it came from factory with lock down bar. Did they come like that back in the day?
ebay.com link » Cactus Canyon Pinball Machine By Bally New In Box With Collector Plaque
Every pinball machine ever made came with a lockdown bar.
If you are referring to the door lock bar brackets, yes, these games all came with 'em. Every single WPC95 HUO or NIB thread in the history of RGP or pinside has this question asked and answered.
Quoted from CrazyLevi:Every pinball machine ever made came with a lockdown bar.
If you are referring to the door lock bar brackets, yes, these games all came with 'em. Every single WPC95 HUO or NIB thread in the history of RGP or pinside has this question asked and answered.
Thanks for the answer. Still learning 
The ebay seller has been unloading a stash of NIB games for years on ebay.
Kind of strange that they sell mostly $9.95 thrift store garbage and then a NIB pinball machine now and then. They must be selling for someone else like a local collector. Could even be former Williams people. Cedarburg is tourist area north of Milwaukee. Not that far from Chicago. I wonder if any pinsiders know these guys.
Quoted from lllvjr:Forget the cactus canyon what's the other two nib Wms games beside it???
One next to a Cactus Canyon is definitely Star Trek TNG
Quoted from lllvjr:Forget the cactus canyon what's the other two nib Wms games beside it???
This is the same question I was asking myself
For 20k you would at least think it had become a better machine sitting in that box than I remember the set up ones on route back in 1998 being. GLWS!
Quoted from lllvjr:Forget the cactus canyon what's the other two nib Wms games beside it???
Looks like the 3rd one is a Stern Before the Logo Change.
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image.jpgQuoted from roc-noc:Kind of strange that they sell mostly $9.95 thrift store garbage and then a NIB pinball machine now and then. They must be selling for someone else like a local collector. Could even be former Williams people. Cedarburg is tourist area north of Milwaukee. Not that far from Chicago. I wonder if any pinsiders know these guys.
Lol! I know right
Maybe they just made some good investments?
I wouldn't even want it, because the CPU board probably looks like a chia pet. When you spend 15k on something, it better not need anything. Plug and play. if it doesn't, then it's money pissed away.
Quoted from roc-noc:Kind of strange that they sell mostly $9.95 thrift store garbage and then a NIB pinball machine now and then. They must be selling for someone else like a local collector. Could even be former Williams people. Cedarburg is tourist area north of Milwaukee. Not that far from Chicago. I wonder if any pinsiders know these guys.
I do not know them but local people know this guy and have seen his stash. Rumors are that he has lots of nib games and leaks then slowly to keep the prices high.
Quoted from kaneda:Thinking this thing is worth more like 14-16k. Thoughts?
At least what it sold for new back in 1998. If you take into account inflation, that should cover a replacement CPU if it turns out to be roached.
Quoted from kaneda:What's this thing worth? Like many have said in other threads NIB is so dicey because once you open it you've got a huo in mint condition. A HEP restored CC would be cheaper than his 20k asking. Thinking this thing is worth more like 14-16k. Thoughts?
A lot...or ALL of the extra money spent over a HEP would be the excitement to take a brand new machine out of a box that is nearly 20 years old. Worth the extra $6K? Depends on who you ask.
Either way, good find Kaneda.
Quoted from TomGWI:No one in their right mind would buy this. PPS will eventually remake it.
Not everyone is that in tune with the pinball world. Also depends on the price. At $8K you'd have a crap load of buyers.
Quoted from MinusWorlds:Not everyone is that in tune with the pinball world. Also depends on the price. At $8K you'd have a crap load of buyers.
At the $20k price I would think it would be geared towards a collector. Some may not be in tune but I think most people at that price point would be.
I agree at $8k it would probably be gone.
Quoted from TomGWI:At the $20k price I would think it would be geared towards a collector. Some may not be in tune but I think most people at that price point would be.
I agree at $8k it would probably be gone.
Agreed. But it has a make an offer option. Wonder what the seller is hoping to get out of this...
Quoted from kaneda:What's this thing worth? Like many have said in other threads NIB is so dicey because once you open it you've got a huo in mint condition. A HEP restored CC would be cheaper than his 20k asking. Thinking this thing is worth more like 14-16k. Thoughts?
Even if it sells for asking price, wont he end up getting around $16k after all fees are collected? So if he's asking $20k buy it now on ebay then he would most likely think long and hard if a $15k local cash offer got put in front of him.
Quoted from BigDan:Isnt
Even if it sells for asking price, wont he end up getting around $16k after all fees are collected? So if he's asking $20k buy it now on ebay then he would most likely think long and hard if a $15k local cash offer got put in front of him.
Id be willing to bet this changes hands *outside* of an eBay transaction....
But who knows- some wild buyer could bite on the 20k....
Quoted from thedarkknight77:Just wait until the remake, it is on the list to be remade.......
Sure it is.
Quoted from BigDan:Even if it sells for asking price, wont he end up getting around $16k after all fees are collected? So if he's asking $20k buy it now on ebay then he would most likely think long and hard if a $15k local cash offer got put in front of him.
No. The max eBay fee is $750. And my guess is he'd forego PayPal since it's pick up only. Even if he didn't that's another $580. So he'd pocket more like $18,670.
Why spend 20k on this when you can get these 5 games instead for same price.
RARE-BALLY-PINBALL-SILVER-BALL-MANIA-FLASH-GORDON-ELEKTRA-MEDUSA-XENON-SPECTRUM
The Medusa has a RARE tits backglass. I'm still looking for the tits.
Quoted from arcademojo:Why spend 20k on this when you can get these 5 games instead for same price.
RARE-BALLY-PINBALL-SILVER-BALL-MANIA-FLASH-GORDON-ELEKTRA-MEDUSA-XENON-SPECTRUM
The Medusa has a RARE tits backglass. I'm still looking for the tits.
I think 20k is way too much for those 5 games 
Lol
Quoted from pmWolf:I'm making a run at it...
Even if PPS remakes, I'd prefer the original Williams machine. (It's not a knock on them...I know people have been very happy with their new MM's).
Pete
I totally understand the appeal of new in box of older titles. Good luck, hope it goes well.
Quoted from pmWolf:I'm making a run at it...
Even if PPS remakes, I'd prefer the original Williams machine.
+1
Good-luck! I hope it works out! 
Quoted from pmWolf:I'm making a run at it...
Even if PPS remakes, I'd prefer the original Williams machine. (It's not a knock on them...I know people have been very happy with their new MM's).
Pete
i agree. go for it. : P
Quoted from Magic_Mike:Why was this posted in Tech??!
Please consider the source.
Quoted from thedarkknight77:Just wait until the remake, it is on the list to be remade.......
I remember a guy on RGP who used to chime in whenever a woodrail like Mermaid went for big money...
"Good luck with that! In 25 years these games will be worthless!!!!"
Oh, so I just have to wait till 2030? Fantastic!
I've now put about 60 hours on my AFM which I've had since 4 months ago, which is coincidentally when I was advised not to acquire it due to the impeding remake.
Quoted from Join_The_Cirqus:Looks like the 3rd one is a Stern Before the Logo Change.
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Gotta be pretty rare to have. CSI nib like that too. Makes you wonder how someone has so many old games never touched.
Quoted from Magic_Mike:Why was this posted in Tech??!
Good Catch!
This thread has been moved from Tech to "All Pinball".
Thanks.
Marcus
Quoted from Syco54645:Just wait for this time next year to get one NIB...
Make a bet?
Quoted from MinusWorlds:Make a bet?
I bet you a 2 player game at papa, credit is on me. 
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