I haven't played AS, and theme doesn't appeal to me, but if I were in your shoes, I would get the AS. Play the AS until you want a change, shouldn't be difficult to find someone to trade for ST pro later. There's a ton of them out there and those owners will be looking to change it up / upgrade to LCD.

Is Star Trek out of production? I'd get that one personally. I've played both. Both have good flow. Aerosmith has great art, but you have to listen to the same songs every time you play. Could get old after awhile unless you're a huge fan.
Star Trek has 3 flippers and great flow. It's a classic.

Star Trek is such a killer game, the warp ramp is a blast that keeps me coming back. But, the light show and flow on the PREM/LE is the way to go. You really need the whole experience on this title to appreciate it long term. And you should be able to get a HUO one for mid to low $4k.

That said, my vote goes to AS pro especially when comparing to ST PRO. It's a fun pin and has the better 'pro' package all around.

ST PRO pros:
- warp ramp
- fast with amazing flow
- great sound package. Lots of call outs, sounds, and music

ST pro cons:
- code progression: from start to finish its pretty much one or two layers of momentum. The progression and advancement takes a long time to get through.
- light show and vuk flow missing from the le/PREM
- vengeance and punch it button could have been integrated better

AS PRO pros:
-fun
-one more game factor
- great all around package

AS PRO cons:
- not sure if this is a con: but everything about the game (except LCD) is copy+paste from some other pin. Artwork and layout is a kiss/met hybrid. Code is ST, TF, MUST hybrid. But it does all work together in one package.
- long term last ability is still an unknown as its so new.
- fast game that slows down due to code a prolonged animation scenes.
- don't expect rules/code to mature much more than it already is; but that's not necessarily a bad thing cause the code is good as is.

ST is a really good game. I had it for a year and a half and it is my only game I would get back someday. AS is the shiny new toy though and will probably be my next one. Figure $425 to add a color DMD to ST. This should finally come out now that it is out of production. It will be awesome, but figure that into the price comparison also.

I would get AS now and play the crap out of it. ST will be available down the line at a fair price. They made a ton of them.

St is one of the best flowing games ever made and is a light show for the price. Rules get a little stale though.

As is a fun shooter and probably what I would go for. I'm unloading my Star Trek for an Aerosmith and I love Star Trek

Star Trek!

so many different ways to play thru it

stack a mode 3 deep like nero then go thru the rest or beat all lvl 1's so you can get to KM right away, etc. 3 wizard modes and I havent even sniffed 5 Year Mission. Enterprise Amok is hard enough to get to.

Great light show, great flow. stack modes into multiball. try and time up your warp 9.1 double scoring with KM medal count for huge points.

Vengeance battles are intense risk reward

ST all day. AS is Kiss 2.0 with some metallica sounds

I''m voting ST. Not a fan of the AS theme, but I'd consider getting a premium instead. It's well worth the difference you will pay.

Star Trek is MUCH better, from code to layout.

I think Aerosmith is just fine. It's fun. It has fantastic art. But having played both, and all versions of both, Star Trek wins in every aspect, aside from art and light show.

Star Trek is a great game. Since they are no longer in production if you want to get one NIB this would be a good time.

You won't regret getting Star Trek.

Agreed...no regret here. +1 st .
As looks like fun and if it were a band I liked I'd be looking closer. Band just got to much airplay in its second coming just can't stand to hear them anymore.

Don't worry, the pro isn't THAT big of a compromise. They did a great job making the pro a complete package. The premium has some nice touches to it, but there's not a lot lost by going with a pro.

A tougher call would be between Metallica and Star Trek. Between AS and ST, I would go with the ST.

I've had both but Aerosmith wins and it's not even close. Aerosmith is just a much better designed game and is way more fun to play.

I own both. Sitting back to back.
Star Trek is a better game.
Aerosmith is more fun.
That's what you're deciding between.

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I owned ST and played areosmith about a dozen games didnt care for AS get ST

Both are very good games. I played ST in an arcade and loved it. If you like music and Aerosmith go for AS. Otherwise ST.
There's no bad choice here.

ST is hard to find? Maybe locally but seems like a lot come up for sale on pinside. I would say get AS now since it is new and get a used ST pro later when you can find one. I wouldn't be comfortable paying the same for ST as AS. ST is a much older game and doesn't have the color display. ST is a great game and I agree with all the comments above. I have not played AS but seems like a fun game. I know a lot of pins borrow things from other pins but AS seems pretty obvious about it right down to Sparky/Jackie. Guys that have played almost all say it is fun so that is really what is important. Can't go wrong with either but I would say AS to get a newer game with improved features.

Aerosmith for the win - it's awesome!

The last game you buy is always the best game ever...

Heh, and for me that'd be Star Trek and I agree with your statement.

BUT I'd say if you *need* NIB... get a Star Trek before the last of the current stock gets sold. If you don't mind used, I'd probably still go Star Trek since you could save some cash now... and then pick up a used Aerosmith after you either get tired of ST and sell it or have cash for another machine.

I can say I love our Star Trek Pro. We've only had it a couple months now but I still play it daily. Aerosmith I haven't played, but from the videos that also looks pretty solid. Like a few have already said... I don't think you can go wrong with either. Good luck with the decision.

Repetitive A.S. songs would get old after a while. Star Trek never grows old. Star Trek wins for this reason.

Try titan pinball for shiny pinballs:
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Get a shaker. It's awesome in ST.

Upgrade the sound somehow too. Either flipper fidelity sub + speakers. Or cheaper route, get external sub woofer - polka audio. Search pinside; but you can sometimes get these for <$80

Get the metal ramp protectors. Forgot who sold them Ulek store I think? But definitely worth the protection as the game is so fast the left ramp is prone to cracks.

I'll urge you one more time to search out a used premium. There was one in CA for $6k not too long ago. In fact, he may not have sold it. Check in the CA for sale thread, ask if anyone's selling one for a good price. You can always say no to their price and stick with the pro. But after $400 in mods, you'll bbe close to a used modded premium.

I second adding sound system (I have flipper fidelity speakers it's awesome) also have the shaker. The sound and call outs are exceptional on ST, IMHO.

Awesome choice. However, both answers would have been good. AS is fun. I'm not sure that fun will last, but so far it is enjoyable.

But ST is a great game. Every time I play it, I enjoy it. And THAT is the most important part of a pinball machine.

Possibly. Check out nifty LED. I think they have some.

I've never ordered the balls from nifty so not sure how they are. The cascade premium ones are $3.50 a pop which is a pretty hefty pinball price. I'm curious how they compare to the pbl ultra gloss ones. I may have to pick up a pack of 4 to try on my SM.

http://www.niftyled.com/cascade-premium-pinballs/

On ST I really don't think there is a huge difference between the pro and the premium. You'll certainly be very happy with a pro.

Funny how people always talk about listening to the same music over and over on music pins, as if that doesn't happen on every pin.

Between these two. I love ST for the flow of the game. ST is the style of game that I personally like. AS has more depth to the rules. I've only played AS about 25 times so I'm still learning the strategy and rules of the game. The frustrating thing about the location AS that I have been playing is that about 25% of ball launches go straight down the middle. It might be a setup issue on that machine. It's super frustrating. ST would be a perfect machine for me if there were additional rules and coding to it. If those two machines were side by side, most of my plays would go to ST. Unless, there was a GOT machine next to those. GOT has the flow of ST but with more and better rules.

TH has a good variety though

Good Choice.....or lucky happenstance. Steve at MiPinballRefinery is one of the really good ones in this hobby.

pretty funny, I was looking at the same exact two pins, well those and ghost busters. I was taken with AS at the TPF, even though I'm not a huge music fan I thought the game was really nice. Also found a new place near my area with a crap ton of pins, ST pro being one of them. figured ST would be the better choice especially if you want it NIB. they probably won't be there for much longer. I still really want that ghost busters though really fun game. to bad I'm not big ballin

Red DMD game?

Lol no way

Aerosmith!

Like all of your games "were" right.

That's using your head. Soooo many of us just buy a game cuz it's the newest and so few have it.

If you haven't seen the ST movies the pin was based on check them out.

Also if you saw them watch them again it was cool to catch the call outs.

Congratulations on your new Star Trek! You will love it.