No Good Gofers
Williams, 1997Quoted from jamescardona:One more post as a reminder to get in touch with me if you want to be on this first batch of kits I will be producing. I need to pay for the licenses in advance as well as order all of the parts. I am looking to make a list at this point and am not taking any money until I am ready to send out kits.
What is the anticipated cost (or range) of a kit?
Quoted from jfh:What is the anticipated cost (or range) of a kit?
This first batch is being sold at a discount of $200. Expected $1395.
Do not send me any funds yet, I will be contacting people on the list in order once I have kits built
1999 in USA
Quoted from jamescardona:One more post as a reminder to get in touch with me if you want to be on this first batch of kits I will be producing. I need to pay for the licenses in advance as well as order all of the parts. I am looking to make a list at this point and am not taking any money until I am ready to send out kits.
I assume it comes with a color DMD? What components make up the kit? Thx
Quoted from Manic:I assume it comes with a color DMD? What components make up the kit? Thx
Included in the box:
• Speaker panel with two 4-inch speakers, a 15.6-inch LCD screen, and associated wiring
• Metal mounting panel containing NGG2.0 CPU, audio amplifier, circuitry, and associated wiring
• Power cord(s)
Manual has been revised and updated to include new information.
updated manual is located here for download:
Tremendous job on the package. It was well thought out and included a computer startup/shutdown board, nice.
Excellent instructions and the inclusion of different version of NGG is excellent and will bring many years of enjoyment.
Way to breathe new life into this title.
Quoted from jamescardona:Manual has been revised and updated to include new information.
updated manual is located here for download:
http://www.jamescardona.com/NoGoodGophers2.0Manual.pdf
NGG2.0 has been on location for many months in our two beta-locations so why the long wait on the release?
Well, some changes have been requested by the license holder and we agreed to make them because it is going to make the game much much better. Rest assured we are working on this project every day and hope to have it completed soon.
As previously hinted, we have an artist colorizing frames for NGG2.0.
Additionally, we have several other content professionals who have joined the team to help produce sound, video, and static artwork assets for NGG2.0 as well as future titles that are currently in production. It is an exciting time right now!
I will be posting information to my facebook page concerning all of the pinball-related projects if you would like to follow there and get a feel for everything I have going on, not just the NGG information on this thread:
https://www.facebook.com/Cardona-Pinball-Designs-102869057961683
Personally I think scorecards should be aesthetically pleasing and have some artwork. I get what you're saying about not much room for a complete rule listing, but I think some people would want something other than a QR code there.
Quoted from jamescardona:honestly don't know why some manufacturers still try to capture all the rules on a tiny card. the new rules are typically too complex. a qr code link to a pdf is it. this is the way.
You don't have to capture all the rules, just lay out the basics - how to advance through the game, start modes and enable features.
A QR code is most definitely not the way. I would rather spend a few seconds reading a rules overview on a card, than spend a few minutes pulling out a phone, starting the camera, scanning the code, waiting for the website to load, then reading the rules on a screen.
Don't needlessly complicate things.
Quoted from jamescardona:all my 2.0 kits coming with this instruction card
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honestly don't know why some manufacturers still try to capture all the rules on a tiny card. the new rules are typically too complex. a qr code link to a pdf is it. this is the way.
Need the basic rules ppl can just quickly read on the machine, and the QR code for the 1% of ppl who will use it 
thanks for the feedback. I am thinking we can include both types of cards then. On our primary beta test location, there are a lot of tournaments so I see a lot of people on their phones digging through game rules looking for scoring strategies. Understand that is probably not the most common thing though.
getting real close to sticking a fork in this thing by the way! should be sending this out for Williams/ planetary final approval in the next few days.
status for those interested:
finally have the original game playing on our platform. Currently working on seemless switching between games. Hold down the start button for 5 seconds to bring up the game selection menu and then you can choose your game, either original or 2.0. this is real close as well so the finish line is in sight!
hardware platform we are using is made by FAST. For those interested here is some info.
https://docs.fastpinball.com/retro/
I understand that this is the same hardware being used by Pedretti's funhouse: rudy's nightmare as well as the TOTAN 2.0 kits.
The last month has been a little hectic and sometimes you take 2 steps backward for every one step forward it seems but understand that all this waiting will make for a better product in the end.
FAST came out with revision 3 of their audio controller board and a few changes to the hardware required us to rewrite some of the support software for this board. This is what I have been working on the last weeks (along with a vacation trip to Florida as well). The good news is that the rev3 of this board adds a second 12v power output port so I can now power both the monitor and the CPU from there. so then the monitor is not "always on" which was the previous case. Of course with the old design, the monitor would go to sleep when the machine was off but this is better and I am happy with the changes FAST has made.
so for those who are itching to play either of my titles before they are officially released, they are both at the delaware piball collective.
https://www.facebook.com/Delaware-Pinball-Collective-101852188718663
This is a members only club, but they run tons of tournaments that are open to the public and members can also bring in guests for a small fee. The club is a short jaunt off highway 95 in Delaware so if you are making an east coast trip then it is definately worth seeing as they have about 50 machines all set on freeplay.
I will be at the tournament on Saturday at the Delaware Pinball Collective. I see a lot of out of towners are on the list so if you are there and want to talk then hit me up!!
super excited to say that we are sending our final kit to williams/PPS for licensee approval. Once that is complete we will be able to sell kits!
So counting down the minutes to our official launch and it has been a crazy ride to get to this point. As many of you who have read through the thread already know this started out as a little hobby project for me and morphed into me forming my own company, Cardona Pinball Designs, signing contracts for formal licensing of the content, hiring subcontractors to create content and product, and all the while writing code and beta testing. So yeah, it has been a long, strange trip to quote someone who has a flavor of ice cream named after him.
Thank you for all of you who have waited patiently and have given me feedback especially the players in Pennsylvania and neighboring areas who played our beta test machine at the Pinball Gallery in Malvern and also the great players who visit the Delaware Pinball Collective.
As a thank you to to the members of thepinball gallery or the Delaware Pinball Collective, we have decided to offer a $100 discount on our kits to members of either who are current and up to date with their dues. I understand that the business model is different for these two locations and they are not related in any way, but if you have a paid up monthly membership to either then that would be the minimum we would be looking for. Obviously, if you are from a long distance away and visiting the collective for one of their bigger tournaments, like the upcoming 3-day tournament they have planned then it might be wise to just join for 1 month since the monthly membership is only $45 and you could pick up a kit while you are here - just make sure you contact me in advance so I can reserve one for you.
Quoted from jamescardona:So counting down the minutes to our official launch and it has been a crazy ride to get to this point. As many of you who have read through the thread already know this started out as a little hobby project for me and morphed into me forming my own company, Cardona Pinball Designs, signing contracts for formal licensing of the content, hiring subcontractors to create content and product, and all the while writing code and beta testing. So yeah, it has been a long, strange trip to quote someone who has a flavor of ice cream named after him.
Congrats for this. I can imagine how hard it is to go to this point. Nice project indeed for a great game.
So the launch is offiially tomorrow, 1st of February, but our website is currently live right now so if you want to order a kit now then you can. It is at https://cardonapinball.com/
There you will also find a ton of videos: installation, troubleshooting, game play, etc. as well as documents in the downloads section such as manuals, flyers, etc.
The kit MSRP is $2000 plus shipping but we are offering a $100 off coupon for the first 15 kits sold through our website. Once the 15th kit is sold then the coupon will no longer work. the coupon code is:
ngglaunch2023
and it will only work on the https://cardonapinball.com/
We also have a quantity of kits that we are getting ready to ship to PPS and then the kits will be available on planetarypinball.com once they arrive there as well.
Quoted from noitbe1:Congrats for this. I can imagine how hard it is to go to this point. Nice project indeed for a great game.
thank you for the support and congrats on TOTAN as well
here is a link for a pre-installation video, which basically covers all the sorts of things you should be checking for on your machine before you install the kit. This is mainly to make sure everything is working before you start.
here is an installation video for the kit. Let me know if you have any questions or anything is unclear as far as what is being presented.
here is a troubleshooting video where I try to cover many of the common problems and how to identify them. Basically the majority of the problems here are wiring problems where something is not hooked up correctly and I go over the indications so that you can quickly figure out what went wrong in your install.
here is the link to the downloads for no good gofers: battle for the green documents if you would like to look through the manual or the quick install guide.
Added 12 days ago:ohh shoot, once last thing I forgot to mention is that there will be a different kit for international since this kit is powered by the service outlet. Since the service outlet supplys the same voltage as the machine is plugged into at the wall we need to modify our power supply depending on if the input is from USA 120v or europe 220v or other voltages elsewhere. For now the kits we are selling are USA only. Sorry for that.
By the way, the reason we went this route was two-fold. First, we wanted to not have any phantom reboot problems due to powering our system from the power driver board and dragging down the system voltage. The second reason is we wanted to have the upgradeability that a dedicated power source provides so we can later add accessories such as shaker motors and toppers and ...
kits are now listed at planetary pinball
https://www.planetarypinball.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=PPM-KIT-NGG-BATTLE
A wandering bear is head-struck by a golf ball and loses all his memory--even that he is a bear! Buzz, a mischievous munchkin of a gopher hates all golfers. When Buzz discovers the bear, he names him Bud and convinces him that he's really a gopher too. With Bud's raw strength, Buzz hatches a plan to take the golfers out and reclaim the course!
updated the kit information sheet
No Good Gofers: Battle For The Green (NGG:B4G)
A Licensed “2.0” Upgrade Kit by Cardona Pinball Designs
Available NOW
MSRP $1999US
Includes everything you need to install No Good Gofers: Battle For The Green into a No Good Gofers Pinball machine.
• Speaker panel with (2) 4" Flipper Fidelity speakers, an industrial 15.6 inch monitor, and associated cabling.
• FAST Interface controller board (to be installed in the removed CPU location).
• CPU panel that includes CPU, FAST audio and accessory controller, and associated cabling (to be installed in the removed audio/video board location).
• Power Supply with fuse block and associated cabling.
Note: Interface controller offers the ability to add future expansion components such as shaker motors, RGB lighting kits, and the "Gofer Motion" Topper .
About No Good Gofers: Battle For The Green:
A wandering bear is head-struck by a golf ball and loses all his memory--even that he is a bear! Buzz, a mischievous munchkin of a gopher hates all golfers. When Buzz discovers the bear, he names him Bud and convinces him that he's really a gopher too. With Bud's raw strength, Buzz hatches a plan to take the golfers out and reclaim the course!
The music, animations, voice work, and sound effects follow this comical and cartoon-ish vein and were made to be accessible to all. Buzz tends to be critical and confrontational of the player's shots. Bud, on the other hand, is the comic relief of the team. He's a bear that thinks he's really an over-sized gopher. Let’s just say he’s a little slow on the uptake.
Resellers:
https://cardonapinball.com/products
https://www.planetarypinball.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=PPM-KIT-NGG-BATTLE
cardonapinball.com contains the below links to videos of game play, installation of a kit, pre-installation steps, troubleshooting, and a demo video as well as manuals, flyers, promo material, and other documents.
Questions:
Does your kit include side art or a new backglass?
Not in the kit, however, we have contacted an industry leading artist to create new backglass artwork and we plan on offering this as an upgrade option for those who want it once the artist is done.
Can your kit play the original game?
Yes. The NGG:B4G upgrade kit will not only play the new game but players can also select the original game from a menu. Additionally, in future updates we plan to add functionality to the original game where appropriate.
About Cardona Pinball Designs:
Cardona Pinball Designs is licensed by Planetary Pinball Supply to create 2.0 game kits for Bally-Williams titles and has been working toward this end for approximately four years. Our main expertise is software and we subcontract or partner with professionals for other specialized work. For example, FAST is creating our hardware and we also use several artists and voice actors for content creation. We expect to release another licensed title in 2023 and two more licensed titles in 2024.
Our titles receive heavy public beta testing. NGG:B4G has been at The Pinball Gallery in Malvern, Pennsylvania ( https://pinballgallery.net) and at the Delaware Pinball Collective in Wilmington, Delaware since September 2020 ( https://www.delawarepinballcollective.com).
NGG:B4G has also been to several pinball shows such as:
• White Rose Gameroom Show ( http://www.theyorkshow.com)
• PinFest (http://www.pinfestival.com)
• Golden State Pinball Festival (https://www.goldenstatepinball.org)
• Northwest Pinball and Gameroom Show (http://www.nwpinballshow.com)
• Pin-a-go-go (http://www.pin-a-go-go.org)
• Texas Pinball Festival (https://www.texaspinball.com )
game rules
game play
installation video
troubleshooting videos
still have 5 kits, boxed and ready to ship. Order from cardonapinball.com
Quoted from jamescardona:The kit MSRP is $2000 plus shipping but we are offering a $100 off coupon for the first 15 kits sold through our website. Once the 15th kit is sold then the coupon will no longer work. the coupon code is:
ngglaunch2023
and it will only work on the https://cardonapinball.com/
we will be at Texas Pinball Festival (https://www.texaspinball.com/) and PinFest (http://www.pinfestival.com) this year. Come check us out!
Quoted from cait001:Wow, congratulations on this. I can't wait to play it. NGG is one of my favourite layouts in pinball, I love that there is this new code.
thanks!! It's been a long journey!
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