Not a working droid, just a fiberglass prop. Still, falls in the same category as Han in Carbonite, or any other man cave adornment you want to put it up against. As a long time fanboy myself, there are way more interesting memorabilia out there for way cheaper. Even as a Star Wars fanboy and a pinball collector, no one has made a Star Wars machine yet that made me want it in the home, I got weak when DE put out the first one, but finacially couldnt afford it then, and have since moved on to better machines.

Have you played Cosmic Carnival? Serious question.

Looks like a fun game and why wouldn't Stern maximize their Star Wars license? If any license will sell this game, it's Star Wars, with the LCD, movie clips and soundtrack. The ball lock is cool and moving the Tie Fighter to the right ramp makes sense.

This game at a $3999 street price is a winner. Watched the stream and it looks like great fun!

your right. they didnt have to knockit out of the park. just put out some horseshit!!!

same as bksor its like the godfather part 3

Wondering how many pinsiders are (secretly) seriously thinking about buying this game?

Of course those peeps wouldn’t dare admit it in this thread.

The Facebook comments on the stern posts about this pin are brutal

They always are it seems. The butthurt is amazing. Clearly, they are going after a different market besides the core enthusiasts.

Yes I played it at SFGE this past weekend. It's not my cup of tea. An example of one of the main issues is the scoop right up front. The rubber posts on either side of the scoop completely stop the ball from entering if it even grazes them. It makes the shot very brick-y and not fun at all, and it's the shot up front and center. I suggested potentially using metal posts on the sides to help the ball graze past them into the scoop, but up front like that they are going to take a hard beating.

Also, I dont think I heard any callouts? Granted it was loud in the gameroom so I might not have heard them well, but I can't recall hearing one, if any. The game just felt like someone thought making a game around Dirty Donny's art would be a good seller, versus designing a cool game and then getting Donny's art on it.

That said, they did ship games which is a big milestone, and I'm looking forward to seeing what they do for game #2 after learning from this one. It's still a better game than Thunderbirds, so they have that going for them.

There will be people that love Cosmic Carnival as there will be people that love this new offering from Stern.

I watched a youtube video and I immediately noticed the same thing. There are no callouts. The LCD animations were pretty weak too. I also felt the metal soundtrack was out of place when paired with the "cosmic" sound effects. I feel like the soundtrack should have been similar to CV but more spacey and demented sounding.

I think stern went about the release all wrong and invited this kind of response.

What they should have done was simply say...We are going to be unveiling our latest pinball for our home pin line of products. It is Star Wars and will be ready to play at this weeks Comic-con. For the pinball enthusiast and professional players we will be announcing our latest cornerstone pinball machine the following week.

This would probably have played out a lot better, and would have been received with much less criticism.

I can see why people don't like Kaneda now. He was whining about this game on his Facebook a few days ago, then he deleted his comment and was trashing "pinside babies" that don't like the game on his podcast this morning.

I watched some of the stream of this Star Wars Home Pin and there are few things that are actually quite nice.
1) The UI is simple to understand
2) The rules are modified and are much simpler
3) There are 4 multiballs and it appears the same difficulty of Munsters
4) The playfield design is modified, the playfield is modified (there are extra lights) and the game had decent flow/action
5) The videos are presented more frequently and slightly different that the commercial game, but they are displayed nicely

Now of course the game is loaded with other caveats like high price, smaller cabinet, smaller LCD, bumpers/slings that fire at the same time, fake coin door, etc but its definately the best "The Pin" released yet. It also appears to be code updatable which is different from past "The pin" offerings.

George Gomez and the programmer (sorry forget his name) did a good job. Its not for the pinball enthusiasts as was mentioned ad-nauseum, but I could see this going into a neebies basement.

Stern has numerous production teams and production lines. Kind of surprised you don't realize this - it's why they can put out three "cornerstone" games in 2019 along with a SW home version. During the same period, the rest of the pinball companies will put out 0-1 machine.

I remember the hilarious "Primus is gonna delay the game I ordered!!!" meltdown. Primus was on and off the line in ONE DAY.
Tons of code updates this year too. You are really suggesting that SW home took valuable resources away and bogged down the most productive company in pinball? Is there anybody else who produced even 25 percent what Stern did in 2019?

This isn't Jpop tinkering around in a warehouse for 3 years. This isn't somebody making a home brew in their garage and getting distracted by a visit from the in-laws. This is an actual company that can juggle production, R&D, numerous projects...you know, a real functioning company. Maybe one day there will be more than one of those in pinball and people will gain a little perspective.

absolutely, SW Home is just another additional product. a new cornerstone is around the corner. i think everybody should relax, remember Keith's 2 weeks post and wait for a few more days!

I think Keith just has a boner for "two weeks" cause Total Recall is awesome. I say "two weeks" about every 2 days along with whatever random Robocop quote comes into my mind.

Stern could have made a Tron Vault but instead we get a Star Wars Home Edition.. Geez...

I can't imagine he'd give two shits about that. That's dumb podcast stuff.

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I'd pull out my wallet so fast for a TRON '82 vault it would cause back pain.

Guess we'll know next week, i'm optimistic

Likely referencing Kaneda who referenced Total Recall to troll Heighway.

It's 4X too much for normies.

It might work at 1k but then you'd have to build in China. Then you have the issue of product size. It's not a flat pack like 1up. Think of the volume this box takes up, just for a 1k item. You could fit 50k of phones or laptops in that same volume. This is an issue for shipping as well as retail.

Consumer grade price, made in America, high quality.... pick 2.

I don't think anyone is seriously targeting the mass market with games like this. It's all about giving distributor showrooms a range of price points. Here are the used games for $3-6k, and here are the brand new games with a factory warranty for $4-9k. If people want to argue that Stern is seriously concerned with all of their competitors, then this is the cutthroat move to dominate the low to medium end of the NIB market.

It would be interesting if Stern could get a home game into a flat pack though. The cabinet and head could certainly be Ikea furniture. The playfield could be fully populated and just require a few single connectors. Like you said, the shipping and handling is a huge factor in the price. I wonder if you could fit two Ikea Sterns onto a pallet the same size as a normal NIB.

I'm sure Deeproot can do it

All Stern had to do was to say (before announcement) that this was NOT gonna be a "cornerstone game announcement" and I think they would have avoided a LOT of this hate. I think many people feel "fooled" because Stern was making this sound like it was a cornerstone game announcement. A couple of words could have avoided all this negativity, Stern.

I highly doubt Stern was trying to take personal shots at guys that are most likely to buy their cornerstone games.
They have a new low end (but still expensive) product and they tried to pump it up a little. I don't think it's going to work either, but no harm done.

I hope they pay Jack Danger well to deal with the brunt of the criticism, even though he has little to do with these kinds of decisions. Lots of upset people blowing up his streaming hustle.

Also Stern is in a lose-lose. They issued a boilerplate PR announcement. What are they supposed to announce, "hey we have something exciting to show...well it's not that exciting for our core customers, but you should still come visit us!"

Stern has been trolling customers for years. Just this month they finally gave people hope for a GB code update after 30 months and then revealed a GOT code update out of nowhere as if to dump salt in the wounds of GB owners.

I get your point, but that's not feasible for them. They are producing a $4k pinball machine for a target market that doesn't regularly buy them. They need to generate real excitement, not just use the word in a press release. And if anyone says there isn't any excitement surrounding this game, I say 1240 posts in a relatively short time (in just one forum thread) would indicate otherwise.

Stern needs people talking about their machines, and they have that. Sure, rave reviews are better, but silence is death.

FTW!! Perfection in a single post!

Hilton, I love ya buddy, but you really need to dial it back a bit on the over-the-top reactions to every little thing. Pinball is fun and all but your blood pressure will thank you if you relax more.

Will Stern now have Home Version Pro, Premium, and Limited Editions. ?

Stern's marketing just continues to be a joke. It's astonishing how amateurish they are in this regard for being the size of company they are. Best thing they have done in general in recent years is get Jack to go around streaming events and new releases, and i'm sure it really works out in Stern's favor to contract him out whenever they need.. but that's about it. The way they go about rolling out new products is so baffling.

.. as far as the trolling thing, they would block people left and right on their social media; I assume they still do? Hell I've been banned for years, and I wasn't even being a dick about anything.

I wasn't using it in terms of enthusiasm, but as a description of energy level. Excitement doesn't mean a positive reaction. It just means a strong one. Look at this post...

...it's certainly not positive, but it's definitely excited.

Speaking of disappointments....

Star Wars makes perfect sense as a theme for another go around at a home game product. It has multi-generational appeal and they just worked with Disney on a Star Wars game. They already sorta know how Spiderman Home and the general comic book theme sells. So if they did another home game and it was within the realm of things they recently licensed, what is the most appealing? In other words, just how livid would people have been if they showed off Ghostbusters Home Edition yesterday That'd be marriage of the GoT code update and Star Wars Home edition trolls into the ultimate shit show.

I'm gonna paraphrase the exec who greenlighted New Coke...which was a disaster that resulted in the huge success of Coke Classic, leading people to believe it was all a troll...

"We aren't that smart, and we aren't that stupid."

The way you guys talk, Stern is run by a bunch of super evil genius Bond Villains. It's pretty hilarious.

I don't think we will ever know for sure but I think Stern will sell more of these than they even planned. I think it's already a win for them if you pay attention to some of the dialog going on on Facebook, etc..