Next Pinball Depression

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#8 2 years ago

LEV

CrazyLevi

Crazy Levi's Pinball

New York, NY

10y 148K 33,527

"Getting the younger generation into pinball" is a ridiculously misguided concept in 2021.

It's not about "getting the kids" to like pinball. Its not 1978 anymore and that concept is obsolete and pointless. Kids aren't into anything but themselves and their phones, and the stuff they see on their phones.

It's about getting the people in their 20s and 30s - the ones who go to bars - into pinball, and by all accounts they are eating the themes and licensing up.

Today's kid is tomorrow's 32 year old and they'll like playing whatever Star Wars, super hero, or rock band the pinball companies put out in 20 years. And then some of them will buy games for their house or apartment, just like today.

And the circle of life continues unabated. It's a beautiful thing.

I don't really get this thread anyway. THe newest game is Mandolorian, which is a current, popular TV show that probably hasn't even reached the middle of its run yet. So what's the problem?

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#119 2 years ago

LEV

CrazyLevi

Crazy Levi's Pinball

New York, NY

10y 148K 33,527

Quoted from swampfire:
You’re rowing upstream, Greg. Things are changing, and they always will. How many pinball tournaments do you remember in the 90’s? Yeah, me neither.

I was gonna sit this one out...but Jeez dude...you may want to take a seat:

etc. etc.

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#141 2 years ago

LEV

CrazyLevi

Crazy Levi's Pinball

New York, NY

10y 148K 33,527

Quoted from littlecammi:
Some great DMD games were made in the '90s, but pinball popularity waned and by 2000 Stern was the only manufacturer left. This will most probably happen again at some point. Which manufacturer(s) will survive next time? Last time the company with the biggest market share (WMS) dropped out and a smaller company continued on. Will Stern drop out next time and only JJP or AP or Spooky survive? (Scary thought: what if the only survivor is Deeproot?)
Despite the recent run of great LCD games, the best DMD games are still appreciated and sought after. Some solid state machines are also well liked, but few current enthusiasts include EMs in their collections. When pinball dips in the future, will collectors then view DMD games like EMs are now and only seek out the best of the LCD era pins, or will the top Bally/Williams and Stern DMD games still be desired? (Will rare titles be desirable even with pooling and chipping playfields?)
I used to play Foosball, where to win you and your teammate had to beat the other guys. But I view pinball like I view bowling, where I'm trying to top my best previous score. There are better bowlers and better pinball players than me. I'd be happy when they bowl 260 if I bowl a 230 myself. The longer I have my pins at home the harder it is to top my own high scores, but that still gives me incentive when I play. But I feel no need to post my scores on the internet.

The difference between Stern and WIlliams is that Stern's business is pinball, and only pinball. Williams bailed when their insanely profitable gambling division was growing and pinball was shrinking. For Stern, It's either pinball or nothing, or attempting to completely retool to become a gambling or redemption game company.

It's not gonna happen. Stern survived the last 30 years because they know how to make pinball at a profit and they are happy with their business model. They'll be the last company to disappear once this imaginary market crash finally happens. Until then, this thread has to go on the scrap pile....

2000:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rec.games.pinball/high$20prices$20market$20collapse%7Csort:date/rec.games.pinball/gzU8ZAOxvUE/qII_fx4klQ0J

2001:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rec.games.pinball/pricing$20decrease%7Csort:date/rec.games.pinball/3XZf_itbXjY/QI04T4Qr9UkJ

2002:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rec.games.pinball/pinball$20price$20bubble%7Csort:date/rec.games.pinball/8CDhldb5kyw/JxQRQPIGmQwJ

2003:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rec.games.pinball/pinball$20market$20price$20fall%7Csort:date/rec.games.pinball/clAO0zIHHfQ/CbExiOZrldIJ

2004:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rec.games.pinball/pricing$20decrease%7Csort:date/rec.games.pinball/pXZDb-2V6Yk/GSPWq06-nWsJ

2005:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rec.games.pinball/pricing$20bubble%7Csort:date/rec.games.pinball/ACTs0HpQktA/x-C5LZAF180J

2006:
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2007:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rec.games.pinball/pinball$20prices$20fall%7Csort:date/rec.games.pinball/femnxuH8a1k/oeXzsItDbOQJ

2008:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rec.games.pinball/high$20prices$20market$20collapse%7Csort:date/rec.games.pinball/44iMVjwb68o/wXb8-3F9vOIJ

2009:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rec.games.pinball/pricing$20market%7Csort:date/rec.games.pinball/JsgTrS05pCc/8pB5t9oUqTAJ

2010:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rec.games.pinball/pricing$20market%7Csort:date/rec.games.pinball/hNRZGnOAZ-Y/bs8Js1M7sUAJ

2011:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rec.games.pinball/high$20prices$20market$20collapse%7Csort:date/rec.games.pinball/DlcZoruS0Bo/VO_cueyPCEQJ