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Next pin- what 90s or early 2000s has most balanced scoring?

By data_eastside

9 months ago


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    #1 9 months ago

    I bought Shadow- my first pin- a few months ago and have put hundreds of hours of playtime on it. It's truly an incredible game and the best part IMO is how balanced the scoring is. Multiball, battlefield, modes, vengeance- they are all viable methods of racking up a high score and it just makes the game so much fun because it keeps you constantly engaged. Conversely, I have a family mountain house with DE JP and the thing I dislike most about the game is how there is one strategy for racking up a high score- you need Super Jackpots in tri-ball or else you have virtually no chance to score big (the modes are basically meaningless points wise and I don't even play them half the time, I just try to get through them to the wizard mode.)

    I'm looking for a second pin for my house to put next to my bolted-to-the-floor Shadow and I want a game with similar balanced scoring. I'm looking in the 4-5K range. From the research I've done, it seems like BSD or NBA FB are good options. Is that true? What other options would fit the bill?

    #2 9 months ago

    Fish Tales meets that criteria. Going for monster fish, rock the boat, or for multiball are all viable strategies for racking up big points. Game is also a very fast player. It's a little newer and a bit more recent, but Stern Star Trek Pro is a ton of bang for your buck and very deep for your dollar. Scoring is balanced and going through the modes is actually a viable strategy.

    #3 9 months ago

    I think in the 90s lots of good options out there, in the 4-5K range it does limit but one option I would consider is Baywatch. Good value for the money, layout from Balcer is good and lots of different shots, multiball is balanced very well with scoring with modes of the game. Just a fun pin and actually a good shooter. Really clean ones are 4K and less for ones that need a bit of TLC.

    X2 agree with Sataneatscheese Stern ST Pro is a great option and priced in the low 5s. Fun layout and modes are balanced well in scoring.

    BSD is a pretty brutal game and seems to be all about stacking the multiballs so not sure it fits the criteria you are looking for in a tradtional mode or multiball balanced scoring game.

    #4 9 months ago

    Star Trek Pro is a great game and hasn't taken off in price like a lot of the others. Great recommendation if you can find one. It's one of four games I kept after chopping down from 15, along with the Shadow.

    #5 9 months ago
    Quoted from SantaEatsCheese:

    Fish Tales meets that criteria. Going for monster fish, rock the boat, or for multiball are all viable strategies for racking up big points. Game is also a very fast player. It's a little newer and a bit more recent, but Stern Star Trek Pro is a ton of bang for your buck and very deep for your dollar. Scoring is balanced and going through the modes is actually a viable strategy.

    My buddy just got one of these and while it's a fun game, isn't the Super Jackpot pretty much the only way to score ultra high scores? 100M per shot compared to the other methods of scoring makes it seem like the only thing worth going for if you're trying to break a high score right?

    #6 9 months ago
    Quoted from data_eastside:

    From the research I've done, it seems like BSD or NBA FB are good options.

    BSD, not so much. If you want to blow it up there's only one thing to do, stack 2 or 3 multiballs. Great game though.

    NBA Fastbreak is almost comically balanced. Everything in the game is worth 1, 2, or 3 points except the 10-point trivia question. All the modes & multiballs are pretty much equally lucrative. There's a setting for larger "pinball" scoring, but I don't think it changes much beyond adding some zeroes and giving pity points for things like pop bumpers, etc.

    #7 9 months ago

    Funny that you would mention BSD, because of all the pinballs I know, this is the most UN-balanced scoring pinball I can think of...

    Other than Doctor Dude (One Gazillion points) and Bride of Pinbot (Welcome to the Billionaires club), oh, and Johnny Mnemonic with it's inflated scoring... (Actually, there are a lot of unbalanced scoring games now that I think about it...)

    BSD games break into 'I didn't stack the multiballs' so I score less than a billion, to 'I stacked all three multiballs' where the scoring is potentially 9-20 billion. Wild swings in scoring. Way unbalanced.

    NBA fastbreak is a good option, because you only get points for shooting baskets. Long games equal higher scores.

    This is a good question.

    I'm interested in seeing what the community thinks about Willie Wonka for balanced scoring.

    #8 9 months ago
    Quoted from yancy:

    BSD, not so much. If you want to blow it up there's only one thing to do, stack 2 or 3 multiballs. Great game though.

    Quoted from PinRetail:

    Funny that you would mention BSD, because of all the pinballs I know, this is the most UN-balanced scoring pinball I can think of...

    When OP talks about balance, it sounds like he’s concerned about “different ways to approach the game to keep it interesting.”

    And I think BSD does this really well. Score-wise, it’s sorta an all or nothing game, but gameplay-wise, the lack of modes grants the player at least 7 different ways to stack the multiballs: Coffin/Castle; Castle/Mist; Coffin/Mist; Coffin/Castle/Mist; Or play them all individually. It’s a bit of a choose your own adventure depending on your skill and level of risks you’re willing to take.

    #9 9 months ago

    A game I also see frequently mentioned in treads about underrated games World Poker Tour. It's definitely in my budget- does anybody have feedback on how balanced the scoring is on that game in relation to the parameters I mentioned above?

    #10 9 months ago
    Quoted from mbaumle:

    When OP talks about balance, it sounds like he’s concerned about “different ways to approach the game to keep it interesting.”
    And I think BSD does this really well. Score-wise, it’s sorta an all or nothing game, but gameplay-wise, the lack of modes grants the player at least 7 different ways to stack the multiballs: Coffin/Castle; Castle/Mist; Coffin/Mist; Coffin/Castle/Mist; Or play them all individually. It’s a bit of a choose your own adventure depending on your skill and level of risks you’re willing to take.

    I would like a game that has multiple ways to achieve high scores and isn't overly reliable on 1 scenario playing out in order to score well. For instance, in my DE JP, if you don't get the Super Jackpot in tri-ball, you have almost 0% chance of getting a high score, whereas in Shadow, you can get into the high score territory by scoring well on multiball, finishing a a few of the modes, getting super vengeance a few times, or clearing the battlefield a few times. There isn't one recipe to a high score. That's ultimately what I think makes Shadow one of the best 90s pins and it's what I want in my next pin.

    #11 9 months ago

    Owned WPT. It’s a Keith Johnson game, most notably is deep, and scoring is dependent more on how far you get into those modes. Unlike the (impossible) 72x (?) jackpot multipler in LoTR I don’t remember any absurd stacks or multipliers. At high 3s you’d have to be able to look past that low grade art and have an affinity for drops.

    #12 9 months ago

    BSD keeps you coming back for one more game. 30 Million!!

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