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Iron Maiden Revealed

By Concretehardt

1 year ago

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Post #390 Stern Official Teaser Video Link for Iron Maiden Pinball Posted by Pinballrocks (1 year ago)

Post #798 Quick intro on Pro vs Premium vs LE Posted by TheLaw (1 year ago)

Post #920 Feature Matrix of Pro vs Premium vs LE Posted by Apollyon (1 year ago)

Post #1351 Link to short video clip of the Pro Model livestream on 3/27 Posted by Sparky (1 year ago)

Post #1675 Video of LE features missing from Pro that Prem/LE will have Posted by vireland (1 year ago)

Post #1682 Link to hi-res PDF of the feature matrix for Iron Maiden Posted by vireland (1 year ago)

Post #2080 Premium/LE different ramp cutout (Pharaoh head) picture Posted by Pinzzz (1 year ago)

Post #2146 Link to gameplay video from Pro version in Europe Posted by Concretehardt (1 year ago)

Post #2498 Deadflip video on YouTube link. Posted by FalconPunch (1 year ago)

Post #2665 Iron Maiden Pro live stream link from Stream #2 Posted by Asael (1 year ago)

Post #2685 Display font comparison - existing font vs metal font Posted by vireland (1 year ago)

Post #3776 Pic of Iron Maiden LE cabinet and backglass Posted by jar155 (1 year ago)

Post #3940 Pics of the lifting ramp on the Le/Prem. Posted by theironmaiden (1 year ago)

Post #4264 High res LE pics. Posted by starbase (1 year ago)

Post #4864 LE broadcast from Dead Flip backup. Posted by DeadFlip (1 year ago)

Post #5313 Picture of screw-on Iron Maiden Shooter Rod end for the LEs Posted by BOBCADE (1 year ago)

Post #5345 Iron Maiden Pro cabinet splitting picture Posted by bigd1979 (1 year ago)

Post #5383 Leg reinforcement shopping list. Posted by vireland (1 year ago)

Post #5554 Link to rules Posted by Eskaybee (1 year ago)

Post #6692 Spacing info for Newton Ball switches Posted by Chalkey (1 year ago)

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#769 1 year ago

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#932 1 year ago

What's the story with the "industry first" hit-detecting newton ball - how is it different than a regular old captive ball?

#1117 1 year ago

What was the last game without a single VUK?

#1135 1 year ago

Guardians Pro has a scoop on the right, Star Wars has the half-scoop...can't think of any games without a single VUK right now.

#1139 1 year ago
Quoted from TheLaw:

I think you're mixing up what a saucer and VUKs are. But GOT is the answer

Both saucers and scoops use VUKs (vertical up-kickers) to eject the ball. But yes, GOT pro might be the only other one. I mean literally most EMs have VUKs.

#1146 1 year ago

Fair enough, so what do you call the mechanism that kicks the ball out of a scoop or saucer?

#1155 1 year ago

I'm learning so much about pin terminology here. Interesting that Stern is moving away from even saucers/scoops in favor of posts. I genuinely can't think of any single game back to the 70s that didn't have a single saucer or scoop other than this and GOT pro.

#1409 1 year ago

I do feel good that we're seeing changes like support rails in the pro and an honest to god old-fashioned multi-entrance subway system in the the premium. What's next - a widebody? An actual lower pop bumper? A widebody unlicensed theme with a lower pop and a non-Italian bottom? I feel the Gary Rules grip loosening...fingers crossed.

#1448 1 year ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

As a reference, williams’ Time Fantasy has seven coils. That’s what cost cutting looks like.
Hey anybody notice on the stream before plunging a ball, the score would
Display player 1, then a quick flash of Up the Irons?
Nice touch to be appreciated by all maiden fans!!! How else should they expect to be greeted by their pinball machine?

Time Fantasy:
2 flippers
2 slings
3 pops
1 ball trough kicker
1 knocker (?)

8 or maybe 9? and this was intentionall the lowest coil count in modern pin history IIRC

#1450 1 year ago

What's the highest coil count? I think I count around 30 on the Hobbit.

#1459 1 year ago
Quoted from zacaj:

I think I counted 38 one time? The highest I know of, although WoZ is up there too.. Then again Hobbit has ten coils just in one 5 bank of drops so its not really saying that much

In a five bank it would have 6 coils (five individually controlled drops + reset) right? So all drops on Hobbit would amount to 14 coils.
Drops 14
Slings 2
Flippers 3
Pops 3
Kickback 1
VUKs 2
Troll mechs 4
Trough 1
Auto launcher 1
Knocker 1
Ramp diverter 1

33 total?

#1479 1 year ago

Hobbit coils
Drops 22
Slings 2
Flippers 3
Pops 3
Kickback 1
VUKs 2
Troll mechs 4
Trough 1
Auto launcher 1
Knocker 1
Ramp diverter 1
Controllable posts (left outlane, loops, left ramp) 4
Coin lockout?? 1

Still only adds up to 46, no idea where the other *23* coils are being used. LTG can you post a chart? Or be a guest on my new coil counting podcast and explain?

#1482 1 year ago

You're doing it wrong, I count coils to fall asleep. They're the sheep of the pinball world.

#1494 1 year ago

Can Pinside add a coil number to price ratio to every game profile?

#1497 1 year ago

What a long and winding road this thread has been amirite

#1635 1 year ago
Quoted from Toasterdog:

Without having watched a lot of the Archer game, what features is the Pro missing? I thought it looked pretty complete, but I’ve only casually watched video on YouTube.

Basically there's a subway system with scoops under the center ramp and in the right inner loop that feed a lower left scoop. On the Pro, no scoops, just stationary targets in those places. I think there's also a more layered back panel on the Premium.

#1642 1 year ago
Quoted from finnflash:

Why should any of them go up?

14 coils don’t come cheap

#1695 1 year ago
Quoted from vireland:

No subway system at all on the Pro. Entrance under center ramp and at vari-target, exit below bottom pop bumper on the prem/le.

The newton ball also has some fancy "hit-detecting" thing going on on the Prem/LE.

Just goes to show how low Stern has set the bar. People are falling over themselves talking about how loaded the Pro is, because it has spinners.

#1719 1 year ago
Quoted from vireland:

I don't believe the scoop exiting below the pops is gone. All the subway entrances exit there, so it would be weird to remove it.
Many Premium/LEs have subways. Ghostbusters did (but it was really small/short).

Metallica Prem/LE has the little subway from the hammer lock to the scoop. But beyond that it's been a real long time.

#1722 1 year ago

Pretty sure the last Stern game to have an honest to goodness subway was Rollercoaster Tycoon (2002!).

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#1750 1 year ago
Quoted from pinballcorpse:

What about Metallica LE-coffin to mystery scoop. ?

Right, the last subway before Metallica was RCT. The last widebody was...Batman Forever?

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#2063 1 year ago
Quoted from flynnibus:

You should really listen to the c2c podcast interview with Keith. He discusses this at detail... including some of the 'cheats' he was able to do with a homebrew that had to be changed to make them into a real stern game (like shortening the PF).. and that's where some of the Gomez input came from.

I’ve often wondered why we can’t have more “deepbodies” to add new possibilities to playfield design. When was the last one - Af-Tor?

#2264 1 year ago

I know I’m in the super minority but listening to Bruce era Maiden just makes me want to listen to Operation:Mindcrime or The Crimson Idol or something else in the metal opera genre. Obv Iron Maiden pioneered the sound and these ppl are just following but I find the vocals more nuanced and on point and the subject matter more engaging on pretty much any of the Maiden-inspired concept stuff.

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#3955 1 year ago

They actually removed the subway to the lower scoop? Sigh

#3991 1 year ago
Quoted from TheWizard00:

yeah i posted that it didnt have a subway and scoop way earlier in the thread, keith mentioned it on the coast 2 coast podcast right when the pro was revealed. I dont remember who but someone kept insisting it would have a subway even after after the podcast came out, saying it was going to have all the same stuff archer had, ill have to go back through the bajillion posts to remind myself who was wrong lol. LE looks badass congrats to those guys, now bring on the premium cause i want to buy one!

I can’t tell what’s going on in the right upper loop where the vari target to scoop shot was in Archer. But that must be gone too, right?

I’m sure this will be super fun but the fanatical anti subway bias at Stern is a bummer. It leads to so many “balls bouncing back at you from where you shot it” situations where it seems like a subway should naturally be.

#4202 1 year ago

Wonder if anyone will attempt a vari-target>subway>scoop mod to restore those features a la the drop target on Dirty Harry or Judge Dredd deadworld locks.

I thought the vari-target you needed to hit hard enough to expose enough space for the ball to drop down was truly innovative and it’s a bummer it was sacrificed at the alter of Gary’s anti-subway philosophy.

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