Lets go already.
At least it got me listening to Maiden tonight, forgot how much I love the older stuff. Great song and my personal pick for best translite.
Jesus its pinball, yeah that was horseshit but who cares we will see it all soon enough. They aren't going to spend major dollars when pinheads will buy it if its fun regardless, theres no luring in new potential customers here hence the theme. I love it but I'm 43 grew up with Maiden and a shitty teaser has not affected my excitment at all.
Quoted from aingide:
if you want to get more people watching live pinball
thats never going to happen, the current folk who actually watch live pinball are the only folk who will ever watch live pinball, I mean theres no fuckin sound and you have to listen to a crew of dickheads babbling all night, well I just tuned in now and after the teaser I'm tuning out. Live Pinball
Quoted from ronlisa:
I still think a more professional styled announcment at the TPF last week would have knocked a Home Run for Stern than this joke of a way.
I don't understand, do you honestly believe that a bad teaser will affect sales? Anyone who likes Maiden and is interested in buying this game is still interested, if any of you travelled to Texas or watched more that 10 secs of "live pinball" to get details then thats ur problem I'll see everything in high detail and be able to play the game within a 10 min drive in the next couple months without hardly moving, Oh man the beer and stuff is really kicking in now time to go. changed my mind this would be the best translite.
Ok I don't know who the goof is with the hat but he stated there would be a "reveal' on facebook and he should have stated an "announcement", not defending Stern's marketing becasue like most of pinball marketing it sucks just that this dickhead from some show that I've never heard of and and not having anything to do with this pin is quite possibly the worst pair up I've ever seen. As for "Legacy of the Beast" something else I never heard of till today if Stern goes this route they will lose many of the geezer rock/metal crowd which I'm proud to be a part of by the way, we are the market. I've never heard anyone under 30 and really more like 40 thats goes out to play pinball or has any interest in this hobby at all, please don't bring ur young next of skin into this they only know about pinball becasue of you.
Quoted from spinal:
Jack Danger immediately after the video was shown:
"This is freaking amazing!"
That guy is a gameshow host, I'm sure hes a nice fella and all but its like a used car salesman he is telling you want you want to hear. I have no time for it, its like the guys who operate pins or sell mods they have a completely different motive for being on this site than just the player/collector and its real obvious. Oh Yeah
Gary Stern is a smart business man and he would spend the money on Ad/marketing if needed, but pinheads will buy the game regardless. They might even say upon release "this pin is turd I wouldn't spend a dime on it" and a year later its the greatest thing ever and a must have, I think we all know more than just a a few pins that fall into this category and even more pinsiders.
Quoted from kermit24:
Hey buddy leave deadflip alone. Maybe Danger is his middle name just like Austin Powers, who cares... He works his tail off for pinball streaming usually every weeknight. I imagine he will be driving up to Wisconsin soon to show everyone Alice Cooper also. God knows Charlie can't film a pinball video to save his life (see Spooky's Facebook) Anyways, my point is that he isn't a Stern shill, just a good dude that streams a ton of pinball.
Yeah and its all good will right, nothing to do with money or very limited fame? Don't be naive, that being said I do appreciate what he does but come on, thats like when people make out that Cointaker are the salt of the earth, they have one goal to make money selling pinball machines and lights etc. nothing wrong with that at all but please don't talk foolish.
Man I couldn't buy Iron Maiden if I didn't like the band, u guys are "good people" I had to sell my Met Pre because I couldn't get past "Fuel" "Enter Sandman" and Metallica post Justice in general then again I'm a well known jackass, and very proud. does that mean if they made a Justin Beiber pin and it was fun to play you guys might buy it?
Quoted from ArcadiusMaximus:
I listened to a great deal of Metallica growing up and still enjoy their music, but I don't know how to describe it I'm just kind of over them. Like I don't get excited to hear Enter Sandman's opening riff or won't really sit through "One" anymore just to hear that badass solo at the end.
On the other hand IM has everything I look for not just in metal, but music in general. Great technical guitar playing, punishing riffs, speed, and Bruce's voice. I listen to Ozzy's Boneyard on the daily drive to work. IM instantly puts me in a better mood. My 2¢
Iron Maiden lost me after PowerSlave but as long as the pin is great and I can change the newer songs which is hopefully a small part of the game I won't have the same distain as I do with metallica they just turned into whiny commercial pop Metal douchebags, I wish Cliff never died cause he wouldn't have stood for any of it, even Jason had to leave the group due to fuckfaceitis. Anyway looking forward to tuesday hopefully its not a major let down. Oh Metallica......................
Quoted from dannylite:
Strike the masses man. If you rode a motorbike into the show with a chain draging an Iron Maiden cabinet you'd sell a F@ckTon more. Right!
I applaud ur enthusiam sir but these pin companies aren't stupid, its pretty much the same group of pinheads that buy these games and they know they don't need to spend the money on that kind of reveal, operators really only care about reliability and whether the game will earn, if it plays well with a good theme then I'm sold regardless of the marketing. I would love to believe pinball will thrive when the current 20 somethings get into their 40's but if I had to place a bet on it then I'm going with "thats not happening". I think when we are gone so is pinball, but hopefully I'm very wrong.
Come on, its blatantly obvious when the retail salemen and operators and modders post on this site, I say give them their own area to talk shop I don't need any more commercials in my life. I have a few operators friends and they are so full of shit its coming out of their ears, don't get me started on salesmen.
Quoted from spinal:
My first impression is that someone put some heart into this machine - farkin nailed the art package! (thank you)
Yep my favorite piece of PF art ever, the whole thing is just fantastic (I almost typed fabulous) I'm gonna wait and play see what the Pre looks like but the rules seem soild and the its striking. Damn it I almost typed fabulous again..........
Stern haters can suck it.
I've been playing pinball for 30 years and I still call it "the thing that shoots the ball back out at ya" who gives a shit
Quoted from westofrome:
I'm learning so much about pin terminology here. Interesting that Stern is moving away from even saucers/scoops in favor of posts. I genuinely can't think of any single game back to the 70s that didn't have a single saucer or scoop other than this and GOT pro.
1 down and 2 to go I say, next thing I hope starts to disappear is pop bumpers with the exception of one placed out in the open like TNA. Lastly and sadly something that I doubt will ever vanish from pinball is bad humor/callouts, but I can dream the impossible dream.
This game is blowing my mind right now i think I'll be fine with the pro version. The Trooper, damn this is great.
Quoted from Sinestro:
It definitely isn't the JJP model.
Thankfully so, the pro is still the cheapest price going and with all the features on this pin its impressive. I don't really care about the mechanical differences in this case so like SW I'm fine with the Pro version and I like that, my wallet likes that.
Quoted from Aurich:
I bet you could sell a Beastie Boys pin to this crowd though. People would be calling for Sabotage Multiball.
I would consider a Kool Keith pin maybe a Brotha Lynch Hung, Beastie boys where they play instruments I could listen to but not a pin, what do I care I've got an Iron Maiden pin coming.
Sounds like you and Jar need to get together. Hating Maiden and gettign stressed over Zombies. Say Ohhhmmmmmmm
Its quite amazing to me how pinsiders care at all about how quickly a pin sells, Sterns bottom line, price comparisons and BOfM which is my personal favorite of the bunch, I mean "how many coils"
Quoted from swinks:
I reckon they are sitting on some unsold Guardians they can't move....???
That will happen with Deadpool as well if they continue to make Marvel pins based on the films without the real actors voicework, I don't care about custom call outs but I passed on GOTG mainly due to the terrible voices and brutal humor/pinball references, like Xmen even though its based on the comic its a real killer.
R u actually comparing the techno Euro disco soundtrack of TNA to IronMaiden? You guys make me laugh with the whole "Stern is worried about these other companies" crap. I mean don't get me wrong very happy Spooky and JJP and AP even the bad ones like Dutch and Heighway are making pins but please don't be foolish. Stern is King and I don't believe for one second that they have any concern regarding these other manufacturers.
Quoted from Whysnow:
have you listened to the far superior sound quality provided by TNA (and also adopted to ACNC)?
I dont care about your music tastes. I am talking about sound quality and the hardware running the system. You are blind if you dont realize that the only reason Stern has opted to upgrade their sound system now is due to TNA. Hell George Gomez is even on the record saying it was the #1 game he wanted to buy for himself (I hope he has done so by now as the game is great and it would be good for his business if he owned one and played it on a regular basis)
Yeah I've heard a TNA but when I went from that to TWD then The Shadow its not anything that impressed me really, I've never added an ext Sub or upgraded my speakers and I like it loud, then again I've never had an issue with pinball sound outside the actual material itself even the Sega pins. What I can't stand is bad music or terrible call outs. If TNA and Spooky have caused Stern to up their audio quality then I'm grateful as I would be for any upgrade, I do audio engineering work from time to time and theres a saying "u can't polish a turd" if the material sucks then it sucks maybe Iron Maiden will be the first instance where I can really appreciate the enhanced audio, Hey I hope so but TNA didn't do it for me.
Quoted from jkdblaze:
I actually feel kinda bad for you guys who hate Maiden's music.
Well you shouldn't. I feel nothing for them, they lose out because of their shit taste in music. I'd like to change Fear of the Dark for a PD classic from Killers otherwise loving the playlist. Can't wait for my pro.
Quoted from fantarama:
I don't get this outcry here. I mean, the code seems pretty complete. I don't know what standards are you using to judge the code completion of this game, but it has several modes and multiballs. I mean, take for example Medieval Madness... I know it's an older game, but it has as much or even less code than this one. And the animations and sound are more than ok on this release.
If we were talking about Guardians of the galaxy that would be another story, that one was a real mess.
But in this case it smells like complaining for complaining. I'm even tempted to call the wambulance, go figure!
On another and more general note, I'm all about they releasing the game "incomplete", that allows for updates. If the game couldn't be updated they'd release it and you'd have to deal with what you got and that would be the end of the story, but while you can keep adding decimals to the version there's always room for improvement.
I can explain it quite easily, many pinsiders suffer from a terrible disease I call "FuckFaceItis" and its not just pinside its an epidemic right now all over the world.
Game looks amazing and code its more than adequate at release not too mention its Iron Maiden with 4 flippers 2 spinners and thats just the Pro model.
Aerosmith works but Iron Maiden let you down? Kiss? Come on man.
Quoted from jeffsarcade:
The Number of the Beast
Run to the Hills
Hallowed Be Thy Name
Flight of Icarus
2 Minutes to Midnight
Rime of the Ancient Mariner
Can I Play With Madness
Fear of the Dark
I need to change Can I play with madness to Where Eagles dare, Wasted Years to Wrathchild, Fear of the Dark to Phantom of the Opera and maybe Rime to Quest for fire or Sun and Steel then all is right with the world.
Quoted from PanzerFreak:
At these prices a vast majority or customers want a quality product without issues.
Like the faultless JJP pins right? "Build Quality" Theres always going to be issues and setting up out the box thats the way it is. I agree it would be nice if every pin shipped from factory without issues but thats never going to happen.
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