To be clear, the concept = hitting a target in multiple places, if the ball went through how would that work, physically speaking?

Not talking about theme, just the idea of a multitarget, which I think is cool and original.

To get all pinside overly specific about it a VUK is a vertical-up-kicker, so I guess anything with a coil mounted perpendicular to the playfield that fires the ball upwards directly would be a VUK (which I think the GOTG one does). Many scoops fire the ball horizontally into a u-turn onto the playfield, but not all. Most saucers have a lever arm that nudges the ball out.

My bad, I misread what you wrote.

Is that's it's VERTICAL

I'm learning so much about pin terminology here. Interesting that Stern is moving away from even saucers/scoops in favor of posts. I genuinely can't think of any single game back to the 70s that didn't have a single saucer or scoop other than this and GOT pro.

Are we taking bets on if people are going to bitch this time because the stream shows to much of the game?

I could argue the post is actually better because it allows you to conditionally stop the ball, or let it flow through depending on what's going on. Once you put a scoop on the play field, it can only be one thing.

Pop quiz...what is a kickback? That's a sneaky one.

Black Knights?

I think this reveal as had the least amount of bitching over all in a reallly realllllly reallllllly long time

Is there a link to the live feed?

1 down and 2 to go I say, next thing I hope starts to disappear is pop bumpers with the exception of one placed out in the open like TNA. Lastly and sadly something that I doubt will ever vanish from pinball is bad humor/callouts, but I can dream the impossible dream.

https://www.twitch.tv/dead_flip

Live now

Hopefully flippers after that. I miss the 30's.

Ironman doesn't.

The "ball-kicker".

Screen graphics are very amateur looking. Easily the worst of any of the new LCD Stern games. I hope it's placeholder stuff, but I have my doubts.

The fonts and UI graphics are a lot worse than the video content, which itself isn't great. It is however consistent with some IM videos, and many metal band or fan made music videos. The style is heavily rooted in 90s amateur CG.

I'm assuming some of the video assets are from the mobile game.

Hmm...some stuff like albatross didn't look bad...some other things I saw looked like NES...font looks very NES also.

edit: still better than Aerosmtih

Yeah, the typeface graphics are very 90s and not in a good way. But then we don't expect JJP quality visuals from Stern.

The rest of the game looks great. They should just hire some indie game dev designers to help with the display stuff.

I miss dots.

He just said graphics are temporary !

Pretty sure it's on purpose here. But it's also very inexpensive and takes minimal time or effort. If J P de Win is charging anywhere near the market rate for his work for JJP, then that kind of stuff ain't cheap.

UI and transitions possibly. The 3D graphics? No way.

I think he was referring to that one mode, but maybe it was overall.

There's intentionally not a lot happening on the screen, per Keith Elwin. This is way more of a heads down game...thank goodness.

.95 code on the stream.

Code of the Pro on the stream is 0.95, so shipping with 1.00 is likely.

EDIT:Haha...beaten!

So it records the high score per song played, but the songs aren't modes... that's kind of weird.

Love the gong sound when you hit the center target.

Everything looks and sounds great, music aside (I can't stand Iron Maiden), and that layout is freaking awesome. Should be a winner.

.95 or 1.0 code are just made up numbers guys.

I like the voices just fine...looks like fun!

They’re almost all placeholder.

Game looks FANTASTIC! Gameplay is reaaaaaaaaally good. Obviously I hope they plan to do a lot more, but for a demo this is really coming along great.

That's the point you're missing. Iron Maiden was never a "radio" band. They made their popularity through the underground.

Worst music possible, pin play is great.

Exactly

Im impressed, the pro seems loaded. Hope the build quality is there.

Still possible to replace it?

It's arbitrary, of course, but to me it suggests that it's just aboot "complete" minus a bit of polish.

The most impressive thing from the stream is the speed of the game. Seems very fast and smooth.

Wrong wrong and wrong...didn't Stern get the design from Archer? ... so not really innovative on their part..but it looks good anyways

Pin looks alot better than I thought it would...even with LCD animations.

Music....sounds a little worse than i thought Maybe if I put a picture of hunky Airline Pilot Bruce Dickenson by my machine his lovers eyes will hypnotize me.

Well they hired the guy that made it so...that counts.

Watching stream thoughts:

The LCD looks kinda bad, just gonna say it. The mobile game graphics are whatever, it's fine really, they used what they had, but I wish the text had more life and pop and flavor to it. This is a metal game, with a band that has an iconic font, why so staid and generic? If they kept the graphics but upped the font presentation I think it would go a long way.

The overall LCD layout is just okay, Stern hasn't solved what to do with these high rez screens yet IMHO. And it's a tough nut to crack, I don't think the JJP approach is the only way to do it though.

But that said, it seems like there's good info up there that's easy to see, like the stuff on the left tracking stats, that's good to be able to just glance up and see. I'm gonna say 5/10 for the LCD. Functional but doesn't live up to promise of game. Polish on the text and stuff could get it to a 7, maybe there's a chance for that still if people ask for it, I dunno.

And that's all I can complain about, because the game looks really, really good. I've shot the old Archer layout, no surprise there, it was great even in rough whitewood, but just watching the ball flow is great. Music is the music, not a Maiden fan, but I don't mind it, it's good for pinball I think. Callouts and sound effects feel solid. Art is everything I think people could ask for.

I have high hopes for the rules with everything Keith has said. He's compared it to a 90s game, and that's a good thing. Bad LCD wouldn't keep me from buying, but if there's any hope for updating it that would be nice. I'm really interested to see the Premium now.

Only part I'm not wild about

Layout is refreshing , new blood . . new ideas and it shows for sure.
Stern needed this since the most game were designed by Steve Ritchie and John Borg and they have quite the same layout.
Thank GOD Lonnie Ropp is not doing the software, so he cant ruin the game like he did with most of the game he was lead programmer on.
Anyway the game looks like a winner to me !!

Watching the stream
I've never wanted to play a table as much as I want to play this one.
Like Holy Shit!
Totally nailed it!

\m/ \m/ UP THE IRONS! \m/ \m/

Looks Awesome!!! May be my first NIB pin!!!

I checked out some of the stream. Really don't know what to say except this is how the big boys do it. I'm very impressed and looking forward to playing it soon, and seeing what this team has in store for us in the future.

Looks awesome. Stern kicking ass and making a statement in every way, they aren’t going anywhere.

Wonder how many regret their acnc deposits right now?

Updating to note that I saw 2X Multiplier that was done in the Maiden font with flames inside it that looked cool, and Extra Ball Is Lit was written in spattered blood letters, much cooler energy, so maybe some of this boring text is placeholder.

Edit: capped some images

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And that is why it will not outsell acdc.

my apologies if its already been mentioned but are there no magnets in this one ?

Watched some of the stream. Gameplay looks great. Still don't care for songs with lyrics/singing in a pinball machine that constantly stomps on it with call-outs.

Watched the stream, looks like a cool game. I actually like the graphics. I may be in for a pro.