Pro all the way on this one for me. Extras don't seem that important.
Thought the LE looked amazing in the stream and I really love the interactivity of the lifting underworld ramp, the sarcophagus lock, the secret diverter lifting thing. Makes the playfield so much more alive IMO.
I'm in for the Premium and very excited to own Keith's FULL vision.
Quoted from Rob_G:Are you allowed to look at the artwork when unboxing and playing?
Rob
I heard from a second cousin that the LE's are being shipped with opaque covering on all Maiden related surfaces (except the playfield--which everyone has seen a bunch already). It is kinda like buying a new pillow and being bothered by the tags--can't remove the tags (or in this case the covering) under penalty of federal law (or something). However, you may remove the covering by having received written permission from any of the band members (except the drummer)...
I have owned 9 Stern machines(including Goldeneye and Jurassic Park). I have purchased LE's in the past. I currently own 6 Sterns, including METLE and the Iron Maiden Pro. This game is an absolute Grand Slam in any version you get, all though, the gameplay will be slightly different. I seriously believe it might be Stern's best machine ever.
One mode that is largely affected by the different versions is the Flight of Icarus. You get huge points by criss crossing the left and right ramps. With the Premium/LE the ball will lock in the Mummy diverter if you have that qualified, thereby taking away your combo bonus and flow and timing from the feed from either ramp that is available on the Pro. All though, you get the advantage of being able to knock out a ball for multiball in the HMM inspired sarcophagus ball locking mechanism so there are some point advantages with the Premium/LE also.
Just things to consider. Either way, your going to have a huge smile on your face and no regret when you purchase whatsoever! Up the Irons!
Quoted from ItsOnlyPinball:One mode that is largely affected by the different versions is the Flight of Icarus. You get huge points by criss crossing the left and right ramps. With the Premium/LE the ball will lock in the Mummy diverter if you have that qualified, thereby taking away your combo bonus and flow and timing from the feed from either ramp that is available on the Pro.
You sure about that? I noticed in the stream that the diverter closed when a mode started (Aces High is where I believe I saw this), then re-opened once the mode was complete.
My general takeaway from the stream was that it makes Mummy multiball harder (have to hit the pops ramp) to start, and slower (because of the choreography of the ball lock) but makes it possible to get more points out of it. And then it also makes the mode start shot easier and then returns it straight at you rather than down one of the orbits for a flipper shot. Neither of which seem like they make the game better to me.
I dunno. Yes it is the best Stern game for years in my book I'm "kinda" bummed the added toys are "just" some mechs with pastics slapped on them instead of a molded sarcopahrcus & stuff. - Had a little bit higher expectations with the pro allready being that good.
This game looks great but there is so much 2D plastic it's kinda of ridiculous.
I'll get it in 3 years when the code is finished and people mod out all that 2D junk with 3D replacements.
Guess the toys on Maiden Prem/le are more accrately described as mechs or mods. They are all fine but nothing flashy that makes you stop dead in your tracks. I like them and would pay for the upgrade, or could be just as happy with a pro. where the hell are the leaked premium pics Stern?
Quoted from Raegor:This game looks great but there is so much 2D plastic it's kinda of ridiculous.
I'll get it in 3 years when the code is finished and people mod out all that 2D junk with 3D replacements.
Once you play one you aren't going to want to wait 3 years to own one Code is great and will be complete very soon too.
Holy crap some of you guys just can't be pleased.
Anybody have any unboxing or setup lessons learned? Going to be putting on a playfield protector before the first play too.
Quoted from Raegor:I'll get it in 3 years when the code is finished and people mod out all that 2D junk with 3D replacements.
Just glue a bunch of dolls all over the playfield and glue a bunch on top of the backbox.
That will make it nice.
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Quoted from vid1900:Believe it or not they have a standardized symbol for that.....≠
note to self:
vid1900 is not a programmer
Quoted from j_m_:note to self:
vid1900 is not a programmer
Hell no.
I can barely program my coffee maker
Quoted from ghostbc:Sorry if i missed it but did anyone answer this question? What type of connector (RCA jack, 1/8th jack ect) is the "New CPU mounted line-out audio connector for external Amplification". Do you just plug this directly into the Polk sub. I have an LE coming and my first Polk PSW-10 to hook up to it. Trying to get the proper cable to be able to hook up right away when it arrives. Warning if you don't like Iron Maiden music you might want to stay away from Lyons Classic Pinball for at lest the first week when we get it as I will be cranking this thing up(hopefully with sub hooked up). Can someone show a pic of the New line-out on the board?
Thanks
This is a good question, I got a pic of the CPU board and I see no line out. Can any pro owners confirm?
Quoted from Aurich:Don't belittle people</blockquote
Dude your totally offside. Read it the way you want, however all that was meant is it looks like every level of the game is awesome so I don't think anyone needs to worry which they are getting. To take it to me "belittling people" because of income levels, really? I apologize to anyone if you took it that way however re reading my post, I take it as... no matter what you choose no one is getting ripped off, they all look that good
Quoted from vid1900:Believe it or not they have a standardized symbol for that.....≠
Believe it or not, != IS the standardized notation for not equal in computer code.
Quoted from Chalkey:Going to be putting on a playfield protector before the first play too.
Have you done this before? How much of the playfield surface actually has to come off? It seems like a daunting task not having done before or knowing exactly what it entails.
I've done 6. Yeah it's a chore. All the ramps, gates, flippers, and a lot of the plastics need to come off.
Just curious for those who have had the opportunity to play Elwin’s Archer (ive viewed video), how does the Maiden Prem/LE compare now that you’ve seen it? Other than theme, has everything mapped over well from his original design?
Quoted from SpecialK-33:I've only purchased 2 NIB pins from Stern and they've both been Pros- Met and Aerosmith. I agree that the Maiden Pro has a ton to offer. Like many though, this is a dream theme for me and I'm in on a Premium. Many of you who have bought the Pro feel the Premium and LE are not worth the extra money. Just wondering...has there ever been a Stern LE/Premium that actually has been worth the extra money due to enhanced playfield features? Or does it just come down to title, theme, designer, personal preference or collectability ? Zero sarcasm here...just wondering.
I used to be an LE/PREM only buyer thinking that pros were inferior because they were either ‘stripped down’ or not ‘the designers original intent’. And what have I learned since the LE/PREM/Pro model has come into existence? That in most cases the pro plays better, is more fun, and easier to maintain. At least for me personally. My philosophy is now that if I’m going to buy an nib for $7k+ then I’m gonna push the extra step and get a JJP instead.
That said; there is something special about IMDN. I could tell from the first stream, so much that I ordered a pro the same day. And with this game being as good as it is at the pro level; i see this being one hell of a PREM/LE too and for once could be worth the price of admission. That said, i’d Still rather have a JJPOTC over the LE/PREM so I’m glad stern still offers the pro model or I would miss out on this title.
In the end; despite my own preferences and opinions, This is one hell of a game and buyers for any version will be extremely happy I am sure.
Quoted from PinMonk:Believe it or not, != IS the standardized notation for not equal in computer code.
I know, but non programmers (like many ancient pinsiders) are not going to know what that means, and their stacks will overflow.
Quoted from vid1900:I know, but non programmers (like many ancient pinsiders) are not going to know what that means, and their stacks will overflow.
Don't sell them short. I think most people can figure it out from the context.
Quoted from PinMonk:Don't sell them short. I think most people can figure it out from the context.
Quoted from trilamb:I see. Didn’t get that != means does not equal.
Quoted from pinnyheadhead:And you are in FL now? I bet you miss your basement.
I am. Stationed at Eglin AFB. Still got the pool table and 5 (6 with IMDN Prem coming).
I do miss it. I dont miss $8200 in annual property taxes.
(Can't nest inside vid's post for some reason)
Quoted from PinMonk:Don't sell them short. I think most people can figure it out from the context.
Quoted from trilamb:I see. Didn’t get that != means does not equal.
"most" != "all"
Quoted from wontwa:You sure about that? I noticed in the stream that the diverter closed when a mode started (Aces High is where I believe I saw this), then re-opened once the mode was complete.
Positive! Check out 11:25 of the Dead Flip stream...
$7300 should not result in flat plastics
($5700 shouldn't either)
Archer had a left outlane kickback didn't it?
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Quoted from NPO:I am. Stationed at Eglin AFB. Still got the pool table and 5 (6 with IMDN Prem coming).
I do miss it. I dont miss $8200 in annual property taxes.
Looks good. Thanks for your service. Hope your IMDN arrives soon.
Quoted from ItsOnlyPinball:Positive! Check out 11:25 of the Dead Flip stream...
Just double-checked and yeah it does divert during Icarus and kill off any ramp combos you would have built up. Kind of a big deal for that mode at least!
Quoted from MikeS:Just double-checked and yeah it does divert during Icarus and kill off any ramp combos you would have built up. Kind of a big deal for that mode at least!
They can always modify the code
Quoted from Mando:They can always modify the code
They can but Icarus is a mode you typically want to stack with a multiball and if you can't stack it with Mummy that takes away a big part of the game.
Quoted from PW79:$7300 should not result in flat plastics
($5700 shouldn't either)
Archer had a left outlane kickback didn't it?
Yes.. figured that wld of been added to the premium/le
Quoted from MikeS:They can but Icarus is a mode you typically want to stack with a multiball and if you can't stack it with Mummy that takes away a big part of the game.
Bring it up with Keith over at the tilt forums. Maybe there's a solution.
Quoted from vid1900:M4y83 fr0m N0W 0n 1 W1ll 0nlY P0S7 1n 1337. m0s7 P30pl3 W1ll hav3 70 PH19uR3 17 0u7 pHr0M 73H k0n73x7.
Hey, black rose did you have a stroke? Same style but more complete.
Miss that guy. He was always good for some entertainment.....
Quoted from Vino:Just curious for those who have had the opportunity to play Elwin’s Archer (ive viewed video), how does the Maiden Prem/LE compare now that you’ve seen it? Other than theme, has everything mapped over well from his original design?
I second this! How does the Premium/LE layout and gameplay of Iron Maiden compare to Keith's Archer prototype? is anything missing? Has anything (playfield-wise) been added?
Man I finally played the pro at Sunshine tonight... I’ve been drooling over the gameplay videos and didn’t think it could possibly play that good. It’s better.
Holding strong on my LE, but there’s so much amazing stuff constantly going on I can’t imagine being able to find the time to even appreciate all the extras besides the beacon and the interactive GI. I can see this very quickly becoming my favorite game.
Quoted from JediPimp:I second this! How does the Premium/LE layout and gameplay of Iron Maiden compare to Keith's Archer prototype? is anything missing? Has anything (playfield-wise) been added?
I haven’t played archer, but I did hear in an interview that Keith said he had to bring the shots closer because his archer pf was slightly bigger than the standard stern one or something to that matter. But I think I remember him also saying it shoots better with the closer shots.
Quoted from JediPimp:I second this! How does the Premium/LE layout and gameplay of Iron Maiden compare to Keith's Archer prototype? is anything missing? Has anything (playfield-wise) been added?
Left outlane kickback is gone
Not sure what else
Kinda wish I had the mental fortitude and cabbage to leave the LE in the box and just buy a pro. But I don't.
Quoted from PW79:Left outlane kickback is gone
Not sure what else
Varitarget and drop in on the upper right is gone
Scoop on the bottom left is gone
raising left ramp is gone (replaced with the statue on top of the ramp that moves)
subway system is gone
Quoted from FlipperMagician:Man, I remember people being all excited the first time we saw over 100 Pinsiders online
Crazy isn’t it? I remember when a post would be made and it would stay on the front page for three months!!!!!!!! My times have changed.
I wish Stern would show the darn Premium artwork...they are making this process of figuring out what I’m buying rather challenging. Too much unknown. Maybe the premium artwork is so freaking awesome they just don’t want to release because they are worried it would hurt the LE sales...seems unlikely but I’m beginning to wonder.
Quoted from Gryszzz:Kinda wish I had the mental fortitude and cabbage to leave the LE in the box and just buy a pro. But I don't.
Your not alone with this, I am just not that strong and i like to think I have willpower.
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