Right this very second Metallica is the better game because is has better code with the new updates. Star Trek is being actively worked on and getting more love soon (no date as of yet). After that who knows? That's the risk with these in-development games.

BUT - I think Star Trek is a better Pro than Metallica, in terms of not missing out on features. The new code on Metallica really shines best with the Premium. In my opinion, other may disagree. But the Star Trek Pro being less decontented than Metallica Pro is pretty factual.

Honestly though, I wouldn't buy either without playing first. It's a mistake to take anyone's opinion for your own. If you at least had some time on the games and needed a little advice to supplement that would be different.

If you check your Helen package carefully the fine print says you're welcome to drive up here to play my Star Trek, but you can probably find a friendly Pinsider who's closer, I'm a couple hours away.

My personal choice would be to drop Predator, and get the Premium StarTrek.
Metallica's a great game too, but I think once StarTrek gets improved code, it'll be better.
Amazing collection by the way! Add a Spider-Man to that collection and I might be tempted to move in.

Don't forget to add a shaker in that LUCI.

Had ST and it's already gone . Seeing a few get sold already .
MET is the one to add ; )

Met baby !!!

You know, you're starting to get annoying with this, I gotta call you on it. You bought a game with a theme you hated, you sold it, and now you pop into every thread where people talk about it hinting that there's a new trend of everyone selling off. Let it go man, it's okay that it wasn't the pin for you.

Do you play your games, or just want to dress them up nice and pretty? I would go for MET: I like the variety of the layout and ow it shoots much better than ST. With ST, much of the game is hitting that one lone drop target, and some easily-backhanded ramps. *yawn*

Did you already buy your Luci???

Sorry Aurich but It was more than theme . I have burned through games that I liked and disliked themes . This game got boring fast . Theme helped and to be honest I said that as the reason. To be nice to all who dropped a wad.
Again I have owned and played enough games to know better And stand by it . Guess In a few more months one or the other of us will be proven right. You make awesome mods but are dead wrong on his one

You might want to play Predator (if possible) before committing to it. There is a HUGE difference between a fun, great-playing pin and one that just has all the pieces in place to look cool. From what I've seen, predator falls into the latter category. Pinball design is a true art, and there are not too many great designers out there with proven track records. The Predator team has none of them on board.

i wouldn't buy a new stern product. Cheap product, just spent fifteen minutes on the phone to get sent to voicemail with no answer and poor code. No thanks.

I had MET pro and now have ST PRO

Hands down for me is ST PRO - better than AC/DC even I can't say enough about how fun ST is and looks AWESOME

just my .02

On what game? Who did you try to reach? Patrick, Chaz? Cmon! They have great service.

Mark, I have STLE and MET Premium here. You are welcome to come play them if you want to make the drive up from SD.

He's a Stern hater. Nothing more to see.

Unless that place is Steve's Party your plan is full of fail!

I have STLE and love it.

I really like the new Met code. I think both these pro games are a great value and bang for your buck, but I think I would go the premium route on both. I'll probably get a Met premuim at some point.

I would play Predator first. I'm rooting for those guys, but I played it several times in Louisville and that particular game at least was not ready for prime time.

Metallica Premium is no longer at the HIgh Dive. ACDC premium & ST Pro is still there though. There will be a pinball tourney at my place on April the 4th if you are interested in attending. I have a MetLE & Luci so you can get a feel for both. PM me if you are interested in attending.

I think Metallica is better than ST at this point. ST is still fun, but it's hinged on new code coming out. It gets pretty repititious as it is right now. I just showed the game to my wife for the first time the other day and got to Kobiashi. Even she was like 'Is that it? Doesn't seem like much to do...' I like the playfield layout a lot and it has potential, but you can't fix the lack of art on the whole machine either. For what it's worth, I thought Met got very repititious before the new code, but now it's a great game with a lot of depth. At least it always *looked* good...

Yep. Really not much competition between the two pins right now. The question is how much better will the Urban code update make on ST?

MET > ST