Except Smaug also moves, talks with audio synced to an animated jaw, lights up, is highly detailed, and has 5 drops in front of it. Did a Hobbit land on your foot to make you hate the game so much? lol

Seems like it probably locks at the left ramp when the jaw lowers to grab the ball. That's what I'm hoping for, would be cool. Also, there's a dinosaur or two on the artwork that isn't from the 1st movie. I wonder if the pin covers the entire original trilogy or just the first film?

Yeah, that's making we wonder if the game also covers the 2nd and 3rd movies. I'm guessing not based on the instruction card, maybe they are just tossed in there to add to the games artwork. However, I suppose there could be a generic T-Rex vs Spinosaurus mode that is similar to the scene from JP3 but just doesn't feature any assets from the 3rd movie.

Game looks pretty cool, especially the pro. Hell, if Stern is remaking JP then there's hope a Back to the Future Trilogy pin will be made!

The instruction card mentions "control room" modes. In the movie during scenes in the control room we see the map of the island on a computer screen, this is the same map in the center of the playfield with all of the inserts. There appears to be 16-17 inserts on the island map. Are all of these control room modes? I would say a good number of them are. There's a few Jurassic Park T-Rex symbols on the map as well, these may match up to the "T-Rex Events" stated on the instruction card.

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Need to first wait for the official IGN reveal article lol.

I agree. These games are not $500, $700, or $900 but rather $5,000+, $7,000+, and $9,000. Sometimes I wonder what the hell are we paying for when looking at new pins lol.

Yeah, if the pin contained film actor audio and video it would be all over the press release. The game is based off a movie from 1993 so I don't understand why there's isn't actor audio / video assets. I could understand not getting those assets for Jurassic World but not for a movie that is 25+ years old? Come on Stern. Hopefully there's at least callouts by an actor from the original film.

Theres an opportunity for a mod, make it a screw cover that's the head of the lawyer that gets eaten. $50 a pop! Lol

Game looks cool but damn does Stern make some amatuer looking trailers compared to JJP. Then again JJP stopped making these types of trailers after Dialed In so maybe they cost too much to make. Probably easier and cheaper to make a basic trailer and let it be released on IGN for more exposure.

Lol, like I said the game looks cool. It's a shame Stern's trailers always look so bad as I think they do their games a disservice. There's no showmanship to them. Then again, maybe trailers are not even needed anymore when live streams and news articles likely create more exposure.

I can see your point. The Stern JP trailer looks like their best trailer to date. It's nice that they have the "pro" and premium / LE" sections to them.

Reading some posts about whether or not Stern JP LE will go up in value. In my opinion the main issue today with LE's going up in price is the already record high NIB price to begin with combined with high LE counts of 500 +. When Tron LE came out it wasn't $9k. The higher the price of an LE to begin with combined with high LE counts (500+) the less likelihood it will go up in value. With LE counts of 500+ it makes it even harder to go up in value unless the title is considered one of the best pins ever made and it has stellar code support.

Batman LE is a good example of a modern high priced LE going up in value thanks to a low production count, the game receiving high praise (after its code improved) and having incredible code support. The game was $10k at launch but only 240 were made. Personally I think an LE count of 250 or lower is the sweet spot for an LE to go up in value.

You know what, for once I agree with you too lol. 500 CE's at $12.5k is just dumb. JJP is taking the collectibltiy factor out of their games with stupid high LE / CE counts.

Did anyone hear anything at the beginning of the stream regarding the rule structure and number of main modes?

Yeah. Best animations in pinball still go to JJP / J.P for Dialed In / Pirates in my opinion, easily. The character animations on Dialed In mini LCD are incredible (plus multiple varieties for each character) along with the main LCD animations.

Stern's JP Jurassic Park has some really nice animations. The scenes of the car going through the park are cool as is the animated island map screen, both are high quality. The T-Rex water cup animation and main building animations look very rough though. Overall Stern has really stepped up their LCD animations.

Can try a Chase Sapphire card, $500 cash back after spending $4k+. Can only use promotion once every 48 months (think they upped it from 24). I may have done that for a pin or two lol.

Now you are being a troll. I complimented Sterns JP animation work, looks great. I was just stating my opinion with what I believe are the best animations in pinball as others were discussing the topic. Also, I don't believe for a second you have family at Disney animation that said that yet you say JP animations are superior lol! Good one. Is that you Gary?

Yeah. The game comes across as very unique versus being a modified copy of another layout. Both of Keith's first two pins don't really look like anything else out there.

Stream archive is up on YouTube

Raptor Rap mode featured in game?

Great point, that's a good way to look at it.

Taking a look at both Wonka and JP, and even reading the arguments for both, shows just how great of a time it is for pinball. Two awesome pins released within months of each other.

Dude. New JJP SE's should be compared to a Stern Premium, they are basically the same price. JJP doesn't make a pro.

You have been acting like the new #1 Stern fanboy over the past 24 hours. So I troll Stern threads because I said I think Dialed in and Pirates has the best animations in pinball (as the topic was being discussed) and then complimented Stern's animation work for JP? Get out of here with that crap. It was an opinion, if you don't like it downvote and state why you disagree but don't start insulting people.

No, a Stern Premium and JJP SE are now basically the same price. There isn't a JJP pro. Compare JJP CE to a Stern SLE if ya wish! You only want to compare a Stern Pro to a JJP SE to say the JJP game costs more lol.

Before you continue your pro Stern rampage we need to talk. Maybe you already know this but just incase you don't here it is. It's ok to make critical comments about a new game in a general thread. It's ok to question things about a new game in a general thread. It's not ok to attack or insult others in a general thread for making critical comments about a new release or questioning things about it.

Just because someone makes a critical comment about the game it doesn't mean they think it sucks. Those types of comments are normal when contemplating making a $6k - $9k pinball purchase of all things. For example, I have made both positive and critical comments about JP in this thread but right now I'm considering pre-ordering an LE. If you only want to see positive comments about JP I would suggest going to a club or fan thread for the game.

Could be similar to Star Wars LE which features a metal plaque on the apron of the game signed by the designer.

One thing that is bugging me with JP is the lack of detailed 3D molds that blend in well with the rest of the game. Why is the tower literally several pieces of thin plastic with bare metal screw heads all over? Same goes for raptor, a bare metal screw head sticking out of its side and back... The helicopter blades on the premium come across as bare metal brackets from Home Depot with exposed screw heads and stickers applied. It's cheesy items like this that make stomaching a $6k - $9k price hard. That's a crazy amount of money to spend on a pin and this is the type of detail we get? I'm not saying the game sucks or anything (looks great), just discussing what Stern has chosen to put into the game.

Stern is capable of creating some great 3D molds. Just look at Ghostbusters, 3D molded library, molded Slimer, molded storage facility, molded city over pops. All of those items look very well done and help justify the price tag of the game. GB also features movie assets from both films, actor audio and has an actor from the films doing callouts so I would think its build of materials / licensing cost per game is even higher then JP.

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The firehouse may be the most basic piece / mold in GB but it is metal, contoured, and I think it has artwork printed on versus being a sticker. There's multiple other items in GB that are molded. With Wonka the gobstopper itself is a nice 3D mold (without exposed screw heads), the Wonkavision toy used a nice painted mold, and there's also the mold for the Wonka tower. The LE Wonkavator ball lock is the one item in that game I wish was molded better considering the price jump from SE to LE.

Yeah they did, seems like they went all out with that game and then someone said "let's not do that again" lol.

Theres more to pinball then two standard ramps that return the ball directly to the flippers.

Code version number can at least give potential customers and owners a sense of how complete the code currently is and how deep of a game it will be. Code that reaches a 1.0 revision typically means that every feature is at least in the game and playable (although it might not be complete). Later code revisions continue to add polish, add additional mode choreography (light shows, callouts, animations and timing all of them together), possibly adding more modes not defined by inserts, and of course bug fixes.

Personally I think only the premium translite "makes sense" meaning that raptors would travel in packs and it makes sense that there's multiple of them on the translite. The pro translite looks off with what is supposed to be smaller dinosaur in the right corner that looks larger than the t-rex... The LE translite shows two of the largest dinosaurs in the original trilogy but the problem is the dinosaur on the right isn't in the first film at all which is what the game is based on. I think an image of a larger looming t-rex on its own with the vehicle would have been the better choice for LE artwork.

I'm considering purchasing a premium and have been reading about the rules for the game. Can anyone confirm how many main modes are in the game (excluding multiballs and wizard modes)?

The article below mentions T-Rex events and control room modes. Has anyone heard how many of these are in the game? I like that there are 4 multiballs in the game and that's not including the 3 mini wizard modes. 3 mini wizard modes + a super wizard mode sounds great and that the game will have a lot of depth.

https://www.thisweekinpinball.com/jurassic-park-deep-dive-in-depth-overview-of-the-machine-features-rules-and-more/

Uh oh, better get Mirco!