That's actually great to hear b/c I think IMDN is one of Sterns bests.

I'm not happy to hear about no movie clips though. But shit - it's JP? I'll take it!

So is it confirmed No audio clips from actors too? Movie clips I can deal with as animations look great in these games but NO audio either? Or is that still who knows?

besides kaneda....where? I don't do facebook....bring them in here.

So thinking about it some more - I'm OK without the voices b/c we can always add them in ourselves (along with more music). The community including me will assist!

Looks like DE 2.0. Looks good though although cabinet art......not sure. Excited to see this in action.

Bottom line though - they're releasing Jurassic Park. That's fantastic.

Who do you think says "welcome to jurrasic park"? That's an actor and likely not licensed by Stern. Hello

Good news - we will put it in ourselves through pinbrowser!!!!

Any insight on how all those wire forms work? One to the right especially - corkscrew!! love that - very STTNG.

I'm pumped stern. Looking good.

Def. I'm pumped. If the code hits, this will be in my house.

THANK YOU STERN for not doing world. Holy hell I thought you were going to blow it but you pulled it out. Nice.

Are you 100% on this? If so how do you not get the prem or le. That means longer wait time. Damn

I agree art is the weak link. I wonder if you can use the DE translite for the new stern one? Or is DE much bigger....

Agree.

I think all of the art packages seem super generic but they're ok enough. It's not as bas as a blue box with the logo on it.

It's the premium translite that I just can't stand....side is nice

If stern pro has the trex eating the ball, I'm back to considering the pro but if it's just there for show, it's completely out.

I'm not sure people are flipping out - just commenting on what is great and what appears weak.

Map look is a big throwback to DE version. I'm surprised that went DE 2.0 on the look of the pf but I'm not complaining as I have good memories of that game.

What? Taking iconic scenes from the movie is exactly what would be perfect. Yes that's what we wanted to see and yes it's always better to have the movie clips in there to relive the classic. I much rather trust speilberg's classic telling of JP then some engineer at Stern. Look at what Joe did at JJP to Willy Wonka completely crippling what is an amazing film bc he decides to reimagine it in his own view and completely destroy the integration of the film.

Look at your own alien. It's unbelievable bc of the movie clips and integration.

That being said, I'm interested to see what this looks like on the LCD but overall the package looks great from Stern and super excited to see more but we would all love the clips and audio. Good news is that can be injected via pinbrowser.

I love how dum dums will read people's feedback about the art and say look - that person is complaining...you see??? it's the typical pinside drama about a game they haven't seen....etc etc.

Earth to pinsiders who quickly jump to this conclusion.....wake up! You are on a fucking pinball forum where people provide their opinions and what is a strength and what is a weakness. This game has an OVERWHELMING amount of positive feedback, mine included but if you're too much of a powder puff snowflake to take ANY bad with a game, good luck in life.

For me this game kicks so much ass on what I've seen thus far but I would be lying if the lack of movie clips and OG JP characters/voices along with art didn't concern me a little. Let's bring on Thursday so I can see it play/code integration and with the power of pinbrowser correct essentially everything except art, which I'm OK with as DP and others had really cool animations!

4 ramps? Really? That's awesome will need to revisit pics.....

The jeep in JP didn't have a super charger coming out of it I think is his point. And I wouldn't want to play as the dumbass spending his disposable income on super charging his JP engine.

If you're not a fan of the original score you're not a fan of jurrasic park.

So does the game have just that main theme or the entire soundtrack to JP? Just curious....

Edit - says musical score so that's big. That means it will sound great music wise. I'm thinking if they animate the big scenes from jp 1 that would be cool

Smaug was a big miss bc of it. No ball interesting would be a big bummer. I think it does though at least on prem le trim.

The game to be seems like a spiritual successor to the DE one

I'm surprised we're still speculating on features for prem/le. Wouldn't the same people who leaked the presentation pictures also elaborate on the features as I'm sure that was part of the walk-through today..... Or am I missing something? Seems like why stop at the pics....

Interesting on how the pro translite is the only one that says Jurassic Park while the prem and LE just have the JP logo. I think I like it spelled out rather than just the logo.

I'm really feeling pro all the way but it seems like no TREX chompy which for me means no JP Pro.

I'm one of those people in love with JP (in fact I have a hard time understanding how folks don't get it) but I'm also 37. I wasn't aware JP really hit the 25 year olds. I'm thinking def 30s to mid 40s.

jesus that's insane.....and awesome.

Although not exactly relevant, here is a ridiculous video of some woman hulk smashing a laptop over her bf's head after getting sent off the plan. F'n hilarious.

Scroll to 1min mark.

and yes Jurrasic Park is awesome. Thank you Stern.

I feel the same way.

I love when folks say man wouldn't it be nice for a brand new take on the JP universe by not being a slave to the movie and being more creative...... And then they'll say well I'm not crazy about the JP movie....

Well no shit

I'm glad that someone denied the idea of recreating alien as it would have been a terrible decision. So glad the game stuck to the movies and absolutely nailed it.

People who love these franchises.... Truly love them are not dying for a Pinball company to apply their own artistic take on it. Again look at Willy Wonka. Jesus what a travesty. Just make a fun pinball game that sticks to the playbook. There is enough to screw up trying to make a good pin... Now folks want these companies to be a Hollywood doctor as well.

Just a heads up I just asked my wife to look at that pic and tell me what game is from 1993 and what is from 2019 as she never plays ever and she thought the DE pf was the new one. Whomp whomp.

Since Newman is on the pf itself I wouldn't be surprised if he provides voice clips.

You think there a lot of complaints? I think it's mostly positive....

Sure art movie clips so not perfect but for Stern looks like a homerun

oh cmon. Nothing? No similarities? I actually wasn't seeing it until that compare and ok - I now can see what folks are talking about.

I'm happy about it b/c October shoots very well and is just absolutely tanked with a terrible art/music/audio package (theme doesn't help either). Jurrasic Park Octoberfest? Yes please!

Munsters was garbage day 1. Don't even get me started with black knight which apparently is the biggest tanker of the year sales wise except the few diehards on here who defend to the death. Big rebound by Stern here. They knew they f'd it up recently especially after killing it with imdn and DP.

Random thought but let's say DE JP never came out and Stern released it now. I think they could charge 6k+ and people would pay for it..... Especially with that dino eating the ball. Imagine we never saw that before until now?

That is the epitomy of a low life.

Just catching up today.... Damn no reveal...

The bar that Wonka set for how to fuck up a game with assets is so high (thanks Joe and audio guy!) let's see how jp plays, sounds and looks first before comparing....

Nah - for people who actually wanted a true Wonka experience, Joe killed it and it's frustrating. Maye you're playing woz with your eyes closed but it's a fascinating experience, one of the best in the industry of theme integration so maybe time to get out the smelling salts if you think what they did to wonka even gets close to the integration of woz. I'm an owner of both WoZ and Pirates and Wonka is a complete mess regarding integration, music, sound and narrator compared to those two. A mess.

What's also funny is that your critical of people holding JJP to the fire for Wonka but for stern's Jurassic Park, a game no one has even seen in action, you said "All I can say is, thanks Stern for saving me money. Jurassic Park : the Animated Series Pinball is an instant pass."

You haven't even SEEN the GD game in action and it's an instant pass? Please - what a joke.

btw - can't forget about this gem from Joe on the wonka stream...…"What you see is what you get" - nice comment Joe to people who are trying to help you. Basically a FU to the community b/c his vision is superior. Wake up buddy. It's a shame b/c he seems hell bent to just drive that game into the ground. It's still salvageable too b/c it shoots so well but no....Joe the amazing coder with his amazing vision won't allow it.

Not surprised with your instant defense but how do you defend Joe's statement there of what you see is what you get? Are you saying Joe understands the issues but his hands are tied? I mean seriously? I know you think the art on the SE is great so I'm trying to keep things in check here but you can't really believe that right? The guy is in charge of the direction of the code and how things play out. He's admitted that he thinks the alternative would get boring and won't permit it. Did you miss that?

Man - can we be more balanced around here? I'm a JJP owner and stern owner and critique them the same.

Better than expected says it all. The bar was so low to begin with that the glossy look is something to point to as positive but what are we doing here? Art that is so lackluster and quite frankly not even there.... Just a blue box. It needs to be called out for what it is instead of giving it a pass bc the glossy look takes some of the burn away.

As for whether I played it or not...cmon now. The only reason I've been so opinionated about this game was bc I literally had the cash and wanted to buy it so badly but then I played it finally and it was just such a mess..... And it's not just movie clips but music sound and that god AWFUL narrator.
Shoots great which I mentioned a ton but so much is off outside of that. Check my write up on the thread or better yet, kaneda decided to read it word for word on guys podcast. Played it for hours and just couldn't stop shaking my head with the choices they made.

I actually went back recently to play a ton more to see if I could get past these flaws but just gave up.

This pass I see some people give this game is fascinating. I hold both Stern and jjp accountable and I don't sugar coat shit if they mess up. Jjp wants to now offer less and charge more. I just wish they would have delivered with Wonka and can only hope GnR is ok bc if they f up both, that would be a travesty.

Btw I feel like I'm helping in derailing this thread so no more from me on Wonka. Excited to see jp in action.

Def not. If they went Lego it would have been a massive disappoinment for me. I'm hoping for a mature version or stillest pg13 of JP with their animations. I'm pretty excited to see what they've done with it having the ability to animate bc although pf wise black knight was a waste for me, the animations looked REALLY good.

Just catching up to all this.....

Wow. Just wow. Really happy with what I'm seeing here. For me premium ALL the way on this one. That Trex not only eating then placing the ball on the wf but also tossing it sometimes not only looks great but introduced some variety.

No interest in LE as the art on this game isn't great so don't see the real need.

Super excited to see the stream. Hopefully they get the premium going too. I even liked the music in the reveal.

Elwin really bringing it. Great job this far Stern. Code hits and I'm prem down payment

So what's the anticipated release date for prem as I think they're the last to be released

Wait this really true Newman voice is in game? I was thinking it would be since they have his character in the game. Oh man that's fantastic

Is there a flip ramp (180 like alien and Octoberfest) on the left side with that blue looking tower? That would be sick of so.

wait is that in thegame?

seriously - if that's in the game, holy shit, that is impressive.

really excited about the animations now that it was confirmed that goat animation is in the game.

I rarely agree with hazoff but he has ever right to provide his opinion. He thinks black knight is great? I think it's absolute garbage and the biggest piss away title stern has come out with in some time b/c the theme is lackluster AND the pf is boring BUT he should be able to defend and love it as much as he wants.

I can't stand when people tell others your opinion is wrong and therefore DON"T post. Again hazoff is one of the pinsiders I shake my head at a lot b/c his opinions are off the wall but GD this is a pinball forum and everyone gets a chance to post. It also makes things more interesting.

I do love canada though (they get hockey is the best sport ever) so that is one thing we prob have in common.

I thought this started at 8est 7cst?

yep joined at 8 and no intro seemed like they were mid game. I was like did I miss intro?

wow this game looks fantastic

glad they basically animated some of the best JP moments. So far all looks great. The mode starts/animations and call outs seem a little forced (find nerdy!) but DAMN, this game looks good.

The spinner center shot sound effect is straight out of Ripleys (penguin sound) which I love.

JP eating the ball is sick. I don't hear many nerdy call outs though (warning is awesome though). Wish the hamon voice actor was a little less angry and had more of an accent. Car seems to be really a big part of it.

Overall really really good.

pro coming out soon here

Trex seems to toss the ball everywhere....not just the same spot on the PF which is SICK. Well done stern. prob your best toy in some time. love it. It also moves it's neck during gameplay.

wow pro is a big downgrade compared to premium. Big diff for me on this one. No brainer prem here. TREX doesn't do anything.

Not really. I would take movie clips ANY day over this BUT the animations look great which is what we all were hoping.

Animations still don't even come close to video game standards but for pinball, these are really good. Def Sterns best and excited to own this one!

most positive response ever on pinside? haters thought it would go away after the stream.....I think it's only picking up.

Stern is going to print money with this one. Well done. Now if they can only fix GB with code, it would be a home run year for them.

Guys the entire Pinball industry is about 10 years away from video game animation let alone major studios. What in the world are you even fighting over?

I mentioned that the spinner sounds just like the penguin spinner (which I actually liked) however I noticed as they were playing that same spinner shot changes sounds from the penguin to true dino...FYI

I'll need to watch it again but I thought it changed mid game. You could be right though.... Not 100%

So how many nedry call outs did you hear? Of course, ah ah ah but there seemed to be little after. I caught...don't get cheap on me when draining on the right (which is awesome) and no wonder why you want extinct but any others?

They said those clips are straight from JP

I can't imagine how good this will be when we replace some of the exisiting ones with real JP callouts. Shoot her!!!! shooooot Heeeeeer! Get off the fence, the proper welcome to jurassic park, etc.

Stern GB to me represents their best effort. They got everything right.... Except code. With that hopefully being addressed it could be their best ever.

I agree with the middle drain - however that's fixed with the center post.

So jp will be available to play starting today right at replay fx? Not sure I can get there today but will try this weekend. Interesting to see pics and here impressions

for those that have played it, is that top loop shot repeatable like maiden or is it not meant to go loop to loop as I really like games like that (like GW2)...

That's crazy!

I thought he was saying it cost 8400 USD. Even 6400 is about 800 more.

I thought it was the trade off of having universal healthcare! Haha jk

Hey I hear you about how JP Stern is more of a rehash but DE JP is such a poor quality and dog of a shooter. It just is. Love so much about it though but not the shooting part. Stern JP and I've played it is such a better shooter it's crazy and it has a lot of that magic from DE even if it's not original

Completely disagree. 20% of new games having issues is not something to compare away. It's actually opinions like these that allow this BS to keep on happening...... And you know I'm a big fan of yours. Just totally disagree with you here

I was using you as the source... Maybe you meant to say 2%?

"I do too, but Id say 20% of my newer games, JJP and Stern, have some type of issue."

I heard stern had to decide to spend money on the movies assets or that damn button on the lockdown bar.....and they chose the button!!!!

I kid.....

one of their bests no doubt

This could be a sign that you own too many Pinball machines

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