We've had a JP since 1999. The primary draw for us back then was the John William's score. I heard snippets in the Twitch, but there really could have been more, or maybe let the existing clips run longer.

The other non-Williams music assets seemed just fine, except maybe a bit heavy on drums. The voice actors might get tiring after a while.

Can't wait to see this one in person.

Yikes!!! This one looks like a blast to play ( dammit)...So many shots...

Raptor Rap mode featured in game?

Animations are not perfect but that is also not a 100 million dollar Disney movie.
It is still far the best animation we got from Stern. Period.

Just checked out the video for the first time. What jumped out at me immediately was how exciting the video clips are. Tons of action and movement. Yeah I suppose they look a little dated, but they make you FEEL something, which is what pinball is all about.

You would obviously not care to elaborate?
Atleast i bring an argument, how about you?

So, you are saying i´m not bringing forth issues in jjp thread that are negative?
You are a liar.

I liked the Zen-Pinball-style animations which showed dinosaurs on the playfield. I only saw that once, I hope there is more of that. Kind of like augmented reality.

Stern did their homework on screen size. It is just the right size. Any larger and it would become ineffective. A smaller translite would lose its charm and there would be reflection from a larger screen onto the playfield. Almost all players want quick transitions to keep the flow of the game going. Stern has a long track record of experience to get the balance right.

Wow, just watched the first 15 minutes of the stream. Super slick. All the elements falling into place. Personally I like this feeling of video games and pinball merging ala Deadpool.

Sorry, but this game beats WW in every category and it’s not even close, although they both shoot well. Especially price! JJP equivalent to Stern LE is their CE. Both set at maximum of 500 units. WW sells for a whopping $3,500.00 more than a Stern LE, which is more loaded than WW. The big toy of WW, the gobbstopper, doesn’t even touch the ball, it just spins around. The big toy of JP is a fully animatronic T-Rex that follows the ball, eats the ball, spits the ball out, lays the ball down in a lane or throws the ball randomly onto the playfield. Awesome ball interaction, which is what pinball is all about. Gobbstopper spins and never touches the ball. Is that spinning toy worth more at WW $7,500 to $12,500.00 price tag, instead of JP’s $5,500 to $9,000 with actual ball interactive toys: of our hard earned money???

(Only JJP fan boys will down vote the truth, lol.)

If I had the money I'd buy this pin hands down! Oh my! Great job Stern!

Exactly ... dammit!

Was hoping I could dismiss this one based on the theme. Instead, yet another desirable game to stoke my addiction.

Most games you are happy if there are 2 or 3 really satisfying shots. From watching the stream, it looks like almost all of the shots are awesome. Great layout Keith! Hiring Elwin was the best decision Stern has made in a long time.

The best part is that it will be available to play on Thursday at Pinburgh / ReplayFX. 6 Pros and 1 Premium!

True, I haven’t played JP yet, but come on, Keith Elwin did the game and we all saw the stream. No question, it shoots well. I said WW shoots well too. But WW is stripped by comparison. It does not have all the great interactive toys JP has or even POTC does and you’re kidding yourself if you think it does.

You’re also kidding yourself it you think a JJP LE, which is not an LE except in name only at 5,000 units, which is laughable!!! It does not compare in any aspect to a Stern LE. One example: Stern LE has mirrored back glass, JJP CE has mirrored back glass (JJP LE does not have mirrored back glass). The Stern LE and the JJP CE are the 2 comparable tables, as they are both the true collectors table offerings from both companies. The JJP LE is not limited in any way in pinball sales terms. Now you take a deep breath, lol!!!

Even if it's more questionnable with the WW, there is no way that a Stern LE is equal as an JJP CE. Depends of the game you are talking about.

An exemple ? Just compare a GOTG LE with a POTC CE...do you think it's even close call ? No way

Just please STOP comparing Stern to JJP

Anyone know if you can do a co-op multiplayer, similar to TNA? If not, I think this game would be stellar for it. After watching last nights stream I really want to get one.

Just like JJP doesn't make a Pro, Stern doesn't make a CE. LE vs LE is a fair fight. Premium vs Standard is a fair fight. But it also means Pro vs nothing, and CE vs nothing.

Great point, that's a good way to look at it.

Taking a look at both Wonka and JP, and even reading the arguments for both, shows just how great of a time it is for pinball. Two awesome pins released within months of each other.

Wow what an awesome game. You can see the time, detail and talent involved in this game. The game looks super fun to shoot and who doesn't like collecting dinosaurs and saving people? Fun multiballs, interesting smart missile, layers of detail, slick animations. I quite enjoyed the sounds and soundtrack.

One nitpick is the skill shot. If you get a skill shot you should not get another chance for another skill shot (super skill shot). It should be one or the other. In the stream several times players got 2 skill shots within a few seconds, which didn't make sense.

Sorry, but this makes no logical sense.

JJP has a pro, called by a different name, known as an SE. JJP specifically stated they lowered the price by $500 to make it somewhat more affordable for locations, to compete with a Stern Pro, which sells to the same category. Let’s face it, all JJP tables are sold at a much higher price tag, except the original Woz, which sold for $6,500. Now that was reasonable.

Of course panzer, you would say this illogic is a good point. Lol

Thanks for the insult, but that’s one thing I’m not.

It wasn’t two skill shots. It was a combo skill shot. Think of it as a 3 layer skill shot: Left ramp, right ramp, tower ramp. Only available as part of a combo.

You know, one of the best parts about last night's stream was the proud, excited look of Keith in the background as people played his new game.

For a guy who always seems to have his emotion in check dominating tournaments you could see genuine emotional excitement on his face. I'm so happy he can see his vision come to life for everyone to enjoy!

Strong disagree. It was awesome because it was rewarding the combo.

My opinion- combos should always be rewarded; it drives me bonkers that I think there’s is only one combo reward on Deadpool (ninjapocalypse).

Dude. New JJP SE's should be compared to a Stern Premium, they are basically the same price. JJP doesn't make a pro.

Looked great to me. Suits the game perfectly.

Wow I don't think I ever heard of a combo skill shot

Dude, this again makes no sense in the 3 table offerings. Only the 3 different names have you confused, but they both offer similar burgers. One plain, one with cheese and one with bacon cheese. All the same, just at different price points, which seems to be confusing to you. Stern doesnt use the name SE, but a pro is a Stern standard edition. Only price is different between the two. They are both targeted by both companies marketing talk to locations. Quite being so confused on the issue. It’s plain to see.

I mentioned that the spinner sounds just like the penguin spinner (which I actually liked) however I noticed as they were playing that same spinner shot changes sounds from the penguin to true dino...FYI

I was going to say the exact same thing. All these companies are having to up their game which makes it great for us buyers. Lots of good stuff to choose from.

I can see that you and Panzer are both JJP fans and I wonder why you started a Stern thread and why Panzer trolls Stern threads. You both are illogical and cannot see the forest for the trees. Makes no logical sense in what you’re saying. 3 offerings from each company, but only with different names and price points. Both companies target the same 3 categories and is the reason they both offer 3 different table choices to those same category buyers.

All I have to say is this:

JJP

Stern

JJP

STERN!!

JJP!!!!

STERRRRN!!!

JJP!?>!??!

You have been acting like the new #1 Stern fanboy over the past 24 hours. So I troll Stern threads because I said I think Dialed in and Pirates has the best animations in pinball (as the topic was being discussed) and then complimented Stern's animation work for JP? Get out of here with that crap. It was an opinion, if you don't like it downvote and state why you disagree but don't start insulting people.

I don't think this is accurate. It's just Keith's design choices that allowed for more "stuff" due to budget. The 2 u-turn ramps, on many games, might have been scoops/vuks -- a tiny 180 of steel with no moving parts is FAR CHEAPER than a Scoop or a VUK with a coil. The truck toy in the middle is driven kinetically, no motor - again, less cost. The things he chose to use/do just left him more room in the budget to add other things. There's no conscious decision to "cram more in" it's just how Keith designed the game.

You’re right, there isn’t a versus here. Stern is the giant of the industry. JJP is a boutique player at best. No comparison. Stern puts out yearly, what JJP has put out in their almost 10 years of existence. Only 5 tables.

Must you stoop to a lower level??? Keep it civil and nice please.

Lol, usual downvotes by JJP fan boys, over asking someone to be nice??.

I see nothing to complain about other than I am not getting one for free. Game looks incredible! Amazing what Keith and the team has done with what has to be a tight budget.

Of course WW is stripped down. WHIRLWIND is a system 11 game. Kinda hard to compare the two. Like apples and oranges.

I don't think he's being defiant at all! He's agreeably giving the people what they want, with a smile on his face. I think. That beard is getting out of control.

I'll need to watch it again but I thought it changed mid game. You could be right though.... Not 100%

If Elvira is next, they have a pretty high standard to achieve after this release. Could you imagine if Jurassic Park was followed up with Munsters? There would be a lot of long faces.