Being honest, I prefer ZombiYeti's art/style more. That stated, the chances JP2 going to a very fun game to play are most likely pretty high. I love the art, rules, and layout on Iron Maiden. Do I like the music on Iron Maiden, not really. Do I love the game... yes, yes I do.

If you let one criteria category completely kill it for you with modern games, you might miss out on a lot of great pinball.

While the art on JP2 may not be as universally popular as some of the past releases, In Elwin We Trust!

Enjoy the stream tonight, 7PM CST. twitch.tv/deadflip

If the game is fun thats what counts. I am not looking at the cabinet while playing and if you have games on either side of it, hard to see it anyway....

Stream tonight and I can't wait!

I dont agree on the art needs to be ugly.

I just find it kind of odd, that pre-release all the threads was about looks and theme, whilst now, every fan says, it´s not really important and gameplay is everything.

I do think the shootlayout looks really nice and K Elwin really seems to know what he´s doing.

I´m going to watch for sure, even if it´s well into night time here.

For me (on the art aspect)
I prefer this (even if you could lose the humans)

https://blog.littlewoodsireland.ie/wp-content/ireland/uploads/2018/05/jurassic-world-fallen-kingdom-dinosaurs.jpg

Over this.....

https://images.pinside.com/5/b5/5b5098c74c6e05c6d4cb6a88f6342c9f6a1c87ec/resized/large/5b5098c74c6e05c6d4cb6a88f6342c9f6a1c87ec.jpeg

I think the art looks fantastic. There's so much hidden detail I can see in some of the pics I can't wait to see it in person and check out all the stuff.

I've liked the art just fine since the first pics, feels like Jurassic Park to me. Nedry on the playfield is polarizing perhaps - but I think I like the style. It's a huge improvement over the DE game IMO...

I don't understand the display criticisms though - that chopper animation on the reveal trailer looks great to me, and the goat animation shown elsewhere looks really great too. I'm excited to see more. Custom animations to go with custom (I hope) callouts by Nedry himself could be epic...

For once I have to agree with you Panzer but let us not forget JJP 500 unit run of CE at $12,500

Agreed. Just don't get the need to criticize things. There is always tradeoffs when doing a license theme and just things you cannot do even if you wanted to. You cannot have all the actors likeness/voices, you cannot have all the music, you cannot have all the movie clips, and art is always subjective. If the package is anywhere north of "good enough" I say it's a win. I like the focus on dinosaurs instead of characters. Translates to better excitement and action and seems like more freedom to design the game. Wayne Knight also sounds like a win for doing callouts and being part of the game. He has a talent for comedy and great character actor. You could certainly do worse with a theme imo and definitely looking better than the DE game for sure.

Oh crap, it's that Jack dude doing the stream tonight? Tried watching his Wonka stream and made it through about five minutes of him playing. He never shuts the f##k up! Like, seriously never stops talking. Extremely annoying.

At least roar, or do something! It's the signature toy... in a $6K game!

Fingers crossed here as well, but the feature matrix omitting any and all hint to it doesn't give me the warm and fuzzies.

Subscribing

Oh come on, you know the type....Always the life of the party with a booming voice, rumors of a huge c**k, with always the hottest chicks in tow while you sit in the corner wishing you could...

Any info on when the gameplay reveal is?

Don’t sell him short (edited).

What?

Your wife spilled the beans, didn't she?

I think you missed one to the left of the raptor pit and one to the left of the jeep (depending on the jeep newton ball's orientation)
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Edit: I now realise you meant pathways

Hafta disagree. The hottest chick is the one confident enough to be by herself, maybe in the corner as well.

You know what, for once I agree with you too lol. 500 CE's at $12.5k is just dumb. JJP is taking the collectibltiy factor out of their games with stupid high LE / CE counts.

Somebody spilled the bag of dicks, that’s for sure.

What time is the stream EST?

STDM first Impressions

It’s not a run of 500, but a max of 500. Big difference.

Can they sell 500 at$12500? Seems like a pretty big ask.

Is Tendertilt buying this game?

The T-Rex's jaw looks hinged on the Pro. My bet is that it will open it's mouth and roar, but not interact with the ball in any way.

Love shooting through the pops!

Seems like the T-Rex is long enough that it couldn't drop the ball on the plastic left ramp entrance.

havent heard/read much about the BOOM button.
IMDN didnt have one.

No. Selling 500 CEs is a pipe dream.

"Sexually Transmitted Disease M????"

I think that’s for the smart missile

Unfortunately so did the Death Star on SW Pro.

Oh I know. I married a corner chick cuz well...I’m a corner dude

Wtf are we even talking about...

I'm happy someone said it, I hate pin videos with endless talking! There are so many gameplay videos on youtube with people talking through them it is maddening. Like anyone cares about the person doing it, just shut up and play, I want to hear the game!

My only gripe with him is his rather unsettling sleep deprived appearance...distracting really.
I feel like taking him to bed for some rest.

Dead Flip does great videos, IMO, he does interact with his chatroom enough that it can sometimes be annoying, but you can't exactly build a Twitch streaming/chat community without interacting with your chat room during your streams... He makes a point to have silent sections to enjoy the audio, and goes to the trouble to do direct audio feeds from the machine usually. Does anyone else even do that at all?

I can honestly think of no one else in the community already that could pull off the reveal and stream videos like Jack Danger/Dead Flip. I say keep up the great work good sir!

Shatzing the left inlane when a ball is trapped on the up-post would be interesting

Some of you guys have no idea what Twitch is apparently.

You might have noticed, but Pinside is full of cranky old men. Cranky old men who get even more cranky when something is offered to them, for free, that they do not have to watch, that isn't catered to their exacting preferences.

"Back in my day the pinball shows were in black and white, and nobody talked, so we could listen to the chimes!"

Jack does a great job, Stern was super smart to partner up with him. He's an engaging host, doing what people on Twitch are supposed to do, chat with the chat. It's an interactive experience. If it bugs you, then ... don't watch it. Use some of that old man experience to exercise a little patience, you don't have to see the video stuff the moment it drops.

Or, since we all know you won't wait, deal with it. I'm sure Jack will be his usual self, and everyone else will have a good time. I know I'm freaking curious and won't be waiting, really want to see how it shoots and what the AV package looks like myself.

Jack is awesome to watch. Great player, excellent commentary, really helpful streams. He is one of my favorites for sure.

I love Jack Danger and what he does for pinball. It is amazing that the guy commits himself to stream pinball almost everyday. The amount of dedication is crazy. I do like that Stern uses him now for the stream reveals. I do have one gripe and its really not a big deal but on every one of these reveal streams it seems that half of the attendance does not want to be there. They will bring the whole team in the room to introduce them and who did what for the game but once the gameplay starts going half of the room just looks bored and looks like they want to go home. You then see everyone on their cell phones and what not. Just seems a little unprofessional on Sterns end. Again, I do not care but it does look bad and it sort of blows the excitement away.

Also a very good guy to grab a beer with.

I actually don't mind him interacting with his Twitch followers. Someone makes a comment and he responds to them in real time. No issues whatsoever.

It's when he's playing and, for instance, can't make a shot. We get it, you're trying to make a ramp shot and it's challenging. You don't have to say something EVERY SINGLE TIME you miss the shot!

thats just shy programmers

That is a very good point. I am sure a lot of the team just does not want to be streamed. Stern took the right step to get Jack to do these. They are still new at this and it will take some time for it to all come together. I look forward to tonight's stream and future ones.