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Next Stern title is JP2 Jurassic Park


By Whysnow

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#1951 51 days ago
Quoted from ryanwanger:

I gave it a shot. Maybe one or two people will give it a second look. I played 30 years of video games before figuring it out.

The problem is that it just takes too long to get really good at pinball. And until you're really good at pinball, you suck at pinball. It takes very little time for young people to figure out patterns and strategies for video games. It takes years to get so good at figuring out vectors and angles and nudging, to the point that you're not even thinking about it, but it's just muscle memory. Most people have the attention span of a goldfish, and are not going to take the time to make pinball a truly enjoyable experience.

#1952 51 days ago

Finally got a chance to look at the specs. I don't usually hold much hope for Stern, but WOW, this game is full-featured! I hope this means that Stern is back, that we'll get games like this from now on. I'm very excited for the company and can hopefully stop bashing it for being blood-sucking-cheap-assed.

The shots looks crazy awesome! The only concern I have is how tight the shots look due to the sheer number of them. Knowing Keith, I'm sure it will still shoot well.

If Stern would bring back SAM, I'd be broke!

#1953 51 days ago

I’m in on an LE & can’t wait
I’m a fan of Spike 2 also, without it we’d still have those outdated DMD’s on our new Stern pinball machines

#1954 51 days ago
Quoted from Tranquilize:

I hope this means that Stern is back, that we'll get games like this from now on. I'm very excited for the company and can hopefully stop bashing it for being blood-sucking-cheap-assed.

When exactly did they leave? DP is great, BK3 is amazing, Maiden, BM66, SWars etc. Jesus they put a moving T rex in a pin and its the second coming. I agree the pin looks good and I'm gonna grab a Pro if I like the gameplay, its just this whole Stern has been off their mark for years crap. Its weak, last week

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#1955 51 days ago
Quoted from Wineinger09:

T-Rex tossing the ball like that going to cause playfield damage?

You’re kidding with that question right??? You don’t think for one second that Stern didn’t already think of that??? Of course they did and it will be no issue.

#1956 51 days ago

really excited about the animations now that it was confirmed that goat animation is in the game.

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#1957 51 days ago
Quoted from Hazoff:

When exactly did they leave? DP is great, BK3 is amazing, Maiden, BM66, SWars etc. Jesus they put a moving T rex in a pin and its the second coming. I agree the pin looks good and I'm gonna grab a Pro if I like the gameplay, its just this whole Stern has been off their mark for years crap. Its weak, last week

Hazoff, you need to stop talking up Black Knight. You are in a minority and that's ok but you cant keep using Bk3 as an example of greatness. YOU think it's great and that's awesome but the consensus seems to be that its boring af and the shots are not balanced well.
2019 Stern games have been less than awesome so far. Go Keith!

#1958 51 days ago
Quoted from vicjw66:

The problem is that it just takes too long to get really good at pinball.

Kinda, I don't know I was always good at pinball even as tot preteen boy. I remember as a young fella going with a few buddies to play while we should be in school and they hated when it was my turn because they knew they were watching for awile. I heard this alot "just die already" meaning drain not actual death, well who knows. Anyway ofcourse you get better with practise but if u stink or just can't get into it u never will. Lots of guys still love to play even though they are far from great so its more of do you have that pinball sickness in you or not.

#1959 51 days ago

Not sure if I love the new or the old JP more yet, but I know which one loves me more.
(Hint: it's a matter of spit or swallow)

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#1960 51 days ago
Quoted from Graysonsdad:

YOU think it's great and that's awesome but the consensus seems to be that its boring af and the shots are not balanced well.

boring af and not balanced? Horseshit, and I'll never stop praising that game. Makes zero difference to me if its held in high regard or hated with extreme ethusiam, in fact I prefer the ladder. Good day to u sir, I said good day.

#1961 51 days ago
Quoted from unigroove:

I see some different abbreviations being used for this game. Am I the only one who thinks the most logical abbreviation would be JP19?

sorry, Yancy nominated JP2. It won out

Honestly, good game abbreviations need to be short and logical. JP2 is both. If a few years JP19 is just somthing that takes more time to type, makes zero sense since no other game goes by the year is was made, and it deviates from the way we pinheads have already opted to name games in a series.

e.g. BK, BK2K, BK3
HS, HS2

Just gotta realize that JP2 hits all the abbreviation check boxes.

#1962 51 days ago
Quoted from Hazoff:

boring af and not balanced? Horseshit, and I'll never stop praising that game. Makes zero difference to me if its held in high regard or hated with extreme ethusiam, in fact I prefer the ladder. Good day to u sir, I said good day.

I let SW slide because I havent played it enough

#1963 51 days ago
Quoted from Whysnow:

sorry, Yancy nominated JP2. It won out
Honestly, good game abbreviations need to be short and logical. JP2 is both. If a few years JP19 is just somthing that takes more time to type, makes zero sense since no other game goes by the year is was made, and it deviates from the way we pinheads have already opted to name games in a series.
e.g. BK, BK2K, BK3
HS, HS2
Just gotta realize that JP2 hits all the abbreviation check boxes.

Except this abbreviation will always bother me just a bit because I consider this JP3. Lost World would be JP2 (especially by your logic)

#1964 51 days ago

Dammit. Now I really want this to be JP3. We got BK3 earlier this year and we are getting Elvira (E3?) in the fall

#1965 51 days ago
Quoted from Graysonsdad:

I consider this JP3

I like that or JPS

#1966 51 days ago
Quoted from Graysonsdad:

Except this abbreviation will always bother me just a bit because I consider this JP3. Lost World would be JP2 (especially by your logic)

lost world sucks and gots its own family of abbreviations

JP and JP2 are related, JPLW is like the 2nd cousin that nobody wants to talk about for good reason.

#1967 51 days ago

JPPKS...
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#1968 51 days ago
Quoted from cooked71:

JPPKS...
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JPPPKS

#1969 51 days ago
Quoted from tbutler6:

Anyone think they will introduce another version of cabinet art? I.E. cat women
On the fence but i would appreciate it anyone asks if there is a chance to see another throwback edition cab first...maybe during the Monday Twitch Stream or at a panel...

If you want the old art, the cabinets are the same size just order decals for the original and re-decal the cabinet. Pretty simple job on a brand new stern.

#1970 51 days ago

I'll go with KME2, personally. Just to irritate everyone. And retroactively I'm going to use KME1 for Iron Maiden.

#1971 51 days ago

Update on IGN

Update: We've confirmed with Stern that there are no movie clips and everything on the screen will be custom animation. Stern also added, "Sounds [and] speech from Nedry's character are in the game (Wayne Knight)." Original story follows...

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#1972 51 days ago

I have been pin-bored for the best part of a year. Sold down to just a few keepers and feeling pretty sleepy on the whole thing.

I'm awake now I'll tell you! This is a top shelf effort from Stern. Go Keith! Premium all the way!

#1973 51 days ago
Quoted from jimwe5t:

You’re kidding with that question right??? You don’t think for one second that Stern didn’t already think of that??? Of course they did and it will be no issue.

Of course they thought of it, it's extra revenue in replacement playfields

#1974 51 days ago
Quoted from tbutler6:

39 pages plus your useless post.

Not useless stating a fact.

#1975 51 days ago

I am impressed with what I see so far. I think the Monday stream could make people more excited. Also, the fact that it’s playable at Pinburgh is perfect timing to keep the hype going. At this point, this game has a chance to be a huge seller. The only reason why this was on my radar was because of the designer. Now, I am likely in. This game will sell a ton of units.

Best selling Stern LCD? Dethroning Star Wars? We will never know of course but I bet the volume on this is huge.

#1976 51 days ago
Quoted from TimeBandit:

I have been pin-bored for the best part of a year. Sold down to just a few keepers and feeling pretty sleepy on the whole thing.
I'm awake now I'll tell you! This is a top shelf effort from Stern. Go Keith! Premium all the way!

Other than 2 trailers and hi Rez pics, we haven’t seen any gameplay, right? I don’t want to miss it

We don’t have any idea what the graphics will look like or what sounds and callouts will be. There have been no reveals or leaks of either because ..... they are far from being done. I get the feeling JP2 might only have v.2 software and that the amount of work to “finish” the game might take until end of 2019. Plenty of time to find and play the game before making a decision on whether to buy it (for anyone other the blokes in AU).

#1977 51 days ago
Quoted from cooked71:

So why are you here?

So why do you care?

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#1978 51 days ago
Quoted from cpr9999:

39 pages.... and counting.
Just need some complete code this time - no waiting!

So why would this release be different?

#1979 51 days ago

The only little thing I will be sad if there isnt at this point:

A raptor hunting mode where you play as muldoon. When you line up the shot he says “SHOOT HER!” Lol. Kind of like maidens shots at the planes.

Would also have been cool if the ball hold mech in the raptor pit was like star trek where it turns into a captive ball target. Maybe it would only hold it a short time once you locked onto a raptor.

#1980 51 days ago
Quoted from jeffspinballpalace:

Other than 2 trailers and hi Rez pics, we haven’t seen any gameplay, right? I don’t want to miss it
We don’t have any idea what the graphics will look like or what sounds and callouts will be. There have been no reveals or leaks of either because ..... they are far from being done. I get the feeling JP2 might only have v.2 software and that the amount of work to “finish” the game might take until end of 2019. Plenty of time to find and play the game before making a decision on whether to buy it.

The feature matrix states "Incredible rendered LCD graphic scenes", I think that's a pretty bold boast so I'm hopeful they wouldn't have put that on there if they didn't believe it and BK3 has the best graphics so far in the LCD era, if they've improved on those and are starting to find their stride, it could be awesome.

#1981 51 days ago
Quoted from jeffspinballpalace:

Other than 2 trailers and hi Rez pics, we haven’t seen any gameplay, right? I don’t want to miss it
We don’t have any idea what the graphics will look like or what sounds and callouts will be. There have been no reveals or leaks of either because ..... they are far from being done. I get the feeling JP2 might only have v.2 software and that the amount of work to “finish” the game might take until end of 2019. Plenty of time to find and play the game before making a decision on whether to buy it (for anyone other the blokes in AU).

I think you will be surprised on how far along the code is on Monday. Also, Stern has posted 2 teasers of the animations. One on Facebook, the other at the beginning of the trailer video. The look fantastic.

#1982 51 days ago

Stern couldn’t get any of the the A list characters to sign on the dotted line so they got Nerdy for a 5 year supply of devil dogs
No Sam Neil, Jeff or SLJ.....

I’m away to open a case of Stella Artois (AKA wife beater) .... and play some big boy toys Metallica - LUCI - IMDN

Look forward to the stream...
Will be interesting what the music and sound effects will be like...

#1983 51 days ago

Stern has come up with some very good machines lately and this looks like another one but I need to see more, hear more about it.

#1984 51 days ago

This game does look fun. Maybe after i get my Wonka LE i will look into getting a JP3 pro. Still need to play it first.

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#1985 51 days ago
Quoted from unigroove:

Congrats to Keith Elwin and his team for what looks to be a rather refreshing and innovating game!

Interestingly, IGN - who I recall often just publishing Stern's standard press release - is surprisingly critical on this game and raising some valid questions.
The trailer doesn't show any footage from the movie, which made me wonder: if RawThrills would be doing a Jurassic Park-themed Arcade shooter game without any scenes from the movie, just shooting dinosaurs, are people complaining about the lack of movie footage? Or is that typical for the pinball community?

For the first time in history, Pinside has decided not to care about movie assets. Progress!

#1986 51 days ago
Quoted from TheFamilyArcade:

For the first time in history, Pinside has decided not to care about movie assets. Progress!

I love the fresh perspective. They crushed it with deadpool....

#1987 51 days ago
Quoted from tpir:

Your points just aren't very good and you are making a bunch of stuff up along the way to get to them:
"Blind" opinions that are based on pictures and video?... people are happy about more than just the mech... the mech isn't basic and appears to work almost nothing like the DE one... The sculpt quality isn't poor just because you say it is... etc.
No one said you can't have differing opinions, your criticism is just really flimsy and comes off like someone who wants to complain and then pat themselves on the back for it for being the true champion of an internet thread.

It's a round and round cycle though, isn't it?

There's gray here. There always is.

My main point is for home ownership, I want more. I can't drop that kind of money every few months, so I would want something that could help me feel the worth in that. Clearly Stern has been doing pretty damn well with this formula, without one more person in the mix/myself, for years.

My opinions are my own. And they're as much hot air as anyone else's. They have validity to me and my wallet alone. I never stated otherwise. I'm just a person that doesn't downvote just because I don't agree with someone or because a someone is stomping on a dream game I'm really happy about, not if they're presenting views that seem somewhat coherent.

I posted a mod idea about the rex, and I'm anxious to play it and be surprised. I'm anxious for the stream monday night too!

Umm, so is that sufficient to detail how I'm not just some jerk trying to be ego dominant or trash on others excitement?

If it is for you, I'm glad. I don't wish to be negative for other's joy. If it's not, so be it, I bend as much as I'm able, in a world where most aren't equally polite.

#1988 51 days ago

Looks like they use some home made clips to go with the art instead of movie clips.
looks great.

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#1989 51 days ago

There's alot of talk about broken plastics , i've long wondered why don't they use " soft " plastic like you find in Tupperware , if not needed for structural purposes . If they used similar plastic to that on the slingshot covers and elsewhere you could hit it on the edge all day and it would never break .

#1990 51 days ago
Quoted from Skyemont:

This game does look fun. Maybe after i get my Wonka LE i will look into getting a JP3 pro. Still need to play it first.

Aha! Its catching on!

#1991 51 days ago
Quoted from Whysnow:

sorry, Yancy nominated JP2. It won

I Stand With @yancy ! Wiser pinballers you just won't find. Stick with Yancy, he wont gum up!

#1992 51 days ago

There's a lot of pre-vis done with Unreal Engine these days. You can get pretty good looking results that run in real time.

Perhaps Stern has truly leveraged all the Midway guys they scooped up to accomplish this.

It will be interesting to see how open people are to this approach. It's also the only way you'll get your "Grail pin" Jaws.

#1993 51 days ago
Quoted from PanzerFreak:

Game looks cool but damn does Stern make some amatuer looking trailers compared to JJP. Then again JJP stopped making these types of trailers after Dialed In so maybe they cost too much to make. Probably easier and cheaper to make a basic trailer and let it be released on IGN for more exposure.

Ho lee phuk. I have to start saving money. That is the first stern game that I have had any interest in even trying to raise the cash to buy. Maybe by the time the used ones start coming available I will have enough cash saved.

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#1994 51 days ago
Quoted from tbutler6:

Cary Hardy just posted a new JP reaction vid from 13 minutes ago

that guy creeps me out

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#1995 51 days ago
Quoted from tbutler6:

Cary Hardy just posted a new JP reaction vid from 13 minutes ago

creepy!

#1996 51 days ago
Quoted from benheck:

There's a lot of pre-vis done with Unreal Engine these days. You can get pretty good looking results that run in real time.
Perhaps Stern has truly leveraged all the Midway guys they scooped up to accomplish this.
It will be interesting to see how open people are to this approach. It's also the only way you'll get your "Grail pin" Jaws.

Honestly, doesnt the trex mech remind you of the jaws shark a little? Wouldnt be a big change to make that into a shark....

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#1997 51 days ago
Quoted from ccbiggsoo7:

that guy creeps me out

You should really keep your opinions of other Pinsiders to yourself. I haven't met Cary but he seems like a good guy and he is giving back to the community through his videos. You don't have to watch.

#1998 51 days ago
Quoted from benheck:

It will be interesting to see how open people are to this approach. It's also the only way you'll get your "Grail pin" Jaws.

Bring it on! If Jaws was animated in this style and had this much in the game, nobody would blink an eye. Also, you could focus on all action scenes, which the movie only has a limited amount. It would solve a lot of problems.

#1999 51 days ago
Quoted from MikeS:

You should really keep your opinions of other Pinsiders to yourself. I haven't met Cary but he seems like a good guy and he is giving back to the community through his videos. You don't have to watch.

+1!

Ok he looks like an evil genius , but he's a cool dude, and a member of the SDTM team
And he is a true pinballer

And btw if you find HIM creepy, the rest of pinsiders will make you wet your pants!

#2000 51 days ago

Is there any scoop on the playfield? I don't see one...

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