Indianapolis, IN
Quoted from TheFamilyArcade:I’ve owned both game dude. I know all the history. Do you? Grayson‘s dad is an idiot.
To be fair, there is an influx of a lot of new idiots here lately.
*yells at cloud*
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Quoted from TheFamilyArcade:You’re barking up the wrong tree here Flynnabutt.
Quoted from TheFamilyArcade:Grayson‘s dad is an idiot.
The insulting tone of your posts offsets any rational argument you are trying to present.
Your posts invite down votes because of this.
Quoted from DS_Nadine:"Amercan" is a language I've never heard of. XD
Well, since this is a Dutch Forum why not write in Dutch?
You've probably been speaking American every single time you’ve uttered a word in the English language for as long as you’ve lived. But whatever man. You do you.
Quoted from TheFamilyArcade:You’re talking art dude. Not theme integration. Any moron can agree that hand drawn art is better than photo shop. The rules were fixed. And X-MEN is fucking loaded. So why do LEs sell in the 4’s? You know why, because nobody gives a rats fucking ass about comic books (X-men or otherwise) aside from cool art.
Do comic books talk? Do they have a soundtrack? Do they have MASS CULTURAL APPEAL and iconic status? I’ll answer for you. No, they don’t. You what do? Movie franchises. People fucking lose their shit over the good ones. They gross billions of dollars in days.
I feel I’m arguing with double digit IQs tonight.
Ive never read a comic book and haven’t been to a movie in years. I can’t stand the public when i go to the movies. When it comes to hand drawn art afaik programs like photoshop and the like are used. They’re just drawing digitally and using the software to add in color. I think what we’re looking for is custom “hand drawn” art made specifically for the pinball machine and not copy and pasted images from another asset in that IPs library that was “hand drawn” originally. JP came out in 1993 and if their art has evolved into something different in 2019 it makes sense to use that current art.
Quoted from TheFamilyArcade:Whatever. I guarangoddamntee you that if Hugh Jackson and Halle Berry’s voices are in XMEN from the get - go, all early code sins are forgiven and it goes down as one of Sterns best modern era games.
Hahahaha. This thread is really picking up steam heading into the weekend!
Hamilton, ON
Quoted from TheFamilyArcade:Uh, wut? You’re joking right? The fact that neither of these games had call outs from the movie actors is basically what sunk them. X-MEN suffered from bad code out of the gate, but Rare Hero’s incessant rants about the callouts gathered critical mass and eradicated any hope that improved code - WHICH HAPPENED - could save the game.
Avengers was doomed from the start for the exact same reason. Yes, there were QC issues, but the fact that the Avengers movie actors weren’t in the game doomed it.
Both games are good, but the lack of movie assets sealed their fate.
Are you really disputing this?
No amount of assets would have saved Avengers.
Quoted from TheFamilyArcade:You've probably been speaking American every single time you’ve uttered a word in the English language for as long as you’ve lived.
But I'm guessing has he has never uttered a word of Amercan. 
Quoted from Jason_Jehosaphat:JP Premiums ship...when?
End of August?
Mid-September?
Total guesstimate around end of September.
Quoted from MikeS:Both of those games had huge hype when they were first announced! The phrase $10k by Christmas exists because of XMen. The Avengers Hulk edition was a near instant sellout. It wasn't until sometime later that the collector sentiment started to turn against both games. Early on I remember collector's being positive and hyped.
Ok, so why did they tank? Give me the #1 reason.
Quoted from TheFamilyArcade:I’ve owned both game dude. I know all the history. Do you? Grayson‘s dad might be a little slow.
Screenshot_20190725-223426_Google (resized).jpgQuoted from solarvalue:But I'm guessing has he has never uttered a word of Amercan.
Bullshit. Every person in the world that has spoken a word of “english” in the last 50 years is basically speaking the American version of it. And Europeans speak better English than Americans.
Ironic isn’t it?
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Better classy than ignorant.
Quoted from KnockerPTSD:No amount of assets would have saved Avengers.
You really haven’t played very much pinball, have you?
It’s all based on preference. I prefer mode based games, most of what I have are mode based (except Woz, but wife loves it)... theme integration isn’t a deal breaker. I’d own BKSOR if I wasn’t so shit as a player based on the modes. If Munsters & Wonka had the modes, I would own them both. Assets are cool, but not make or break “for me”. Dialed In is great “for me” because of the modes, not the theme. BM66 is my favorite because it has both. JJP POTC is great “for me” because it has both kinda... JP will probably be great “for me” because it looks to have modes. SW is near top of my want list because it has a bit of both. Assets are cool, but not a deal breaker by any means. Again, “my opinion” and “my preference”. Why argue about our preferences? You love what you love and hate what you hate. Voice your opinion, but don’t get into an argument if your opinion doesn’t match with someone else’s opinion. That’s what politics are for...
Quoted from littlecammi:The insulting tone of your posts... invite down votes because of this.
this site does not need a bunch of scoreboard watchers.
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Quoted from TheFamilyArcade:Bullshit. Every person in the world that has spoken a word of “english” in the last 50 years is basically speaking the American version of it. And Europeans speak better English than Americans.
Ironic isn’t it?
You've missed the joke, twice. "Amercan" vs "American". Lighten up.
Quoted from ZenTron:Ive never read a comic book and haven’t been to a movie in years. I can’t stand the public when i go to the movies. When it comes to hand drawn art afaik programs like photoshop and the like are used. They’re just drawing digitally and using the software to add in color. I think what we’re looking for is custom “hand drawn” art made specifically for the pinball machine and not copy and pasted images from another asset in that IPs library that was “hand drawn” originally. JP came out in 1993 and if their art has evolved into something different in 2019 it makes sense to use that current art.
I think I agree with you there gramps, but seriously, you should watch a movie sometime. Good bang for your entertainment dollar. Of course, not as good as a solid record album.
LOTR. Photoshopped playfield, and yet arguably the greatest fucking game of all time. Why?
Pinside thinks I'm spamming because of the amount of posts I just downvoted lol. Can we get negative Nancy the hell out of here? Arguing a losing battle in an unrelated thread that nobody really cares about lol. Put down your beer and or cell phone agro.
Quoted from pickleric:Total guesstimate around end of September.
Thanks.
Quoted from paul_8788:You've missed the joke, twice. "Amercan" vs "American". Lighten up.
Ok.
Quoted from TheFamilyArcade:I think I agree with you there gramps, but seriously, you should watch a movie sometime. Good bang for your entertainment dollar. Of course, not as good as a solid record album.
LOTR. Photoshopped playfield, and yet arguably the greatest fucking game of all time. Why?
Modes...
Quoted from Gryszzz:He's not aggro. Just NYC friendly.
Love ya Grzzzz. Not even sure if you’re on my side here, but doesn’t matter. You rock. You rarely (not never 
) say stupid shit!
Quoted from Coindropper:Modes...
Eh, yeah, the code is great. But so is the code on BM66, and that game can’t hold LOTR’s jock. It’s the call outs! its the movie assets! And the Gimli actor doing the custom work. MOVIE Gimli, not the book’s Gimli, who can’t really talk now can he?
The MOVIE. Not the book. I’m sure 90 purists out of 100 will say the LOTR book trilogy is more satisfying than the movie. But books do shitty callouts. And so do comics. And cartoons? They suck the most.
Quoted from Gryszzz:Thanks buddy, but it's Agnostic Front and that NYC hardcore that REALLY rocks bub.
Here's to that shit CHEERS.
You come to NYC and the hardcore club and dinner/booze is on me.
Quoted from Coindork:LOL, WTF is this thread even about anymore?
Hey, do they still make that beer with the jalapeño pepper in it in Cave Creek? Because THATS what this thread should be about. 
Quoted from TheFamilyArcade:You come to NYC and the hardcore club and dinner/booze is on me.
I’ll let you define “hardcore”. 
Quoted from Coindork:LOL, WTF is this thread even about anymore?
Fanatical hobbyists yelling at windmills to fill the void created by an initial low res leak and subsequent lack of information
Quoted from Hazoff:Way too many ball eaters around here for me.
This from the guy whose avatar once said: “Smegma Crazies to the left. The gate! Gayboy Berserkers to the gate.”
Sydney
Quoted from benheck:I'm not poo pooing it, just actually wondering what they'll do. Guessing either video game style or comic book (like Spider-Man Vault or Alice Cooper)
Everyone demands these LCDs now but it creates a HUGE content liability for a pin, and comes at a time when licenses and video rights are more expensive than ever.
I think (generic Dino adventure) is a good path but will it turn off people who insist on seeing video clips from a movie they've seen 100 times before?
Bring back the dmd. Starting a thread now....”Why has Stern been so slow in re-introducing the DMD?”
Quoted from f3honda4me:I can’t tell if this Jurassic park thread is now a wonka thread or an avengers thread.
It’s an American thread. Everyone is writing American. 
Quoted from TheFamilyArcade:books do shitty callouts. And so do comics. And cartoons? They suck the most.
But you yourself have Deadpool on your wishlist...
Quoted from Amused_to_Death:It’s an American thread. Everyone is writing American.
Not me, I write in Canadian. It's like American but we use more o's in our words and we have 73 different words for maple syrup
Quoted from DS_Nadine:Well, if PinballAlley is right this would be some heck of a (troll) move...
If not it's save to say PinballAlley lost all his credibility and will be mocked for all eternity (so maybe 3 days), right?
It's Jurassic Park -- MNpinball is never wrong. PinballAlley is a troll.
I assume tomorrow morning is a 30sec teaser. I'm hoping we get a Jack Danger stream over the weekend
Quoted from TheFamilyArcade:Eh, yeah, the code is great. But so is the code on BM66, and that game can’t hold LOTR’s jock. It’s the call outs! its the movie assets! And the Gimli actor doing the custom work. MOVIE Gimli, not the book’s Gimli, who can’t really talk now can he?
The MOVIE. Not the book. I’m sure 90 purists out of 100 will say the LOTR book trilogy is more satisfying than the movie. But books do shitty callouts. And so do comics. And cartoons? They suck the most.
As I said before, opinion. BM66 has the voices AND the clips, yet you say “it can’t hold LOTR jock”... why is that? Oh, right, opinion. Good code and modes “in my opinion” make a game great. Hence my post before. Also why the saying “opinions are like a**holes, everyone has one” exists. Like what you like and hate what you hate, but not everyone is going to agree.
Can’t wait to see better up close pics of this game. The LE has to blow me away or my funds stay in my acct. Hopefully Stern has upped there game and this is it! 
Quoted from cooked71:New game is not Jurassic Park, might be Jaws, will have a DMD, is American and will hold BM66's balls.
Summed up nicely, well done!!!
Quoted from cooked71:New game is not Jurassic Park, might be Jaws, will have a DMD, is American and will hold BM66's balls.
Sounds about right. But you left out the 250 extra LE’s they are making.
Quoted from vicjw66:Did they talk about why they cheaped out on the Black Knight toy not being a bash toy by putting that stupid stand up target in front of him or the fact that he doesn’t actually turn his head or move in any way? Did they address the fact that it has the lowest BOM of any modern Stern as well as the least expensive license of any modern Stern, coupled with the highest MSRP of any cornerstone Stern? And they say it’s not selling well? Shocker.
I brought up stand up target in front and hate as well, should have been a drop target with lock like Star Trek at least.
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