Quoted from ifpapinball:

It's entertaining to see that over the past 9 years where player count didn't mean anything towards base value that organizers still found a way to try and get everyone they possibly could to participate.
Wppr's are clearly a valuable thing to many, but the idea that now giving base value points to rated players leading to organizers suddenly not trying to get new players involved in our game seems a little over the top.
I'm hopeful that whatever changes happen to Wppr's in the years to come, or if they possibly ever go away for good that the motivation of getting new players to participate in our sport will all be a self fulfilling thing for organizers.

Quoted from Whysnow:

I really like the 5.0 move to give a base for each player. It makes sense that the more people you beat, the more skilled you are.
I did not like the previous style of limiting the events at 1 location as the new format is more conducive to promoting pinball play.
5.1 is a step back (not the end of the world) as new players are not treated fairly in their respective value. This to me does not fit a logical assumption, esp with a base of zero and for 5 events. In WI, it will take a new players likely 6-8months before they add to the value, yet they can win at any point.
I understand there are limitations to the current system and algorithm, but please don't let that constraint make the decision.
I want to continue to see competitive pinball grow, both through the direct efforts of organizing events and through the latent effects of friends bringing someone else along. Please don't put up barriers to WPPR points or make it more convoluted than it needs to be. As you know and say, points are an incentive to many, so lets use that incentive to promote even more. There must be some level of compromise to fine tune it.
Like Steve Ritchie says if 2 respected people tell you it sucks then it probably sucks. I know that is in regards to pinball design, but I think it is applicable here also. We have seen quite a few of the more active organizers say that they feel it needs some fine tuning. To me that speaks volumes
cheers

Quoted from Zaxxis:

This is the key thing about the .1 changes and any mid year changes that have ever been done. We're not doing this screw with people
Also consider this: We are trying to maintain a system that allows competitive pinball to enjoy the use of many tournament formats that have many, many permutations. This, along with some other reasons, makes the system somewhat complex (unfortunately) and also opens the doors up for exploits. The day will most likely come where the IFPA will stop endorsing some tournaments (my personal opinion) due to their format because it's impossible to create something that covers everything fairly.

Sorry

Quoted from ifpapinball:

Taylor - won't have a chance to really analyze the email until later this week.
At a quick glance your issues are simply not a ton of players, and how that impacts the value for 1st place and the rate at which point drop from 1st to last.
I believe you league was 20 players which means your base value is 10 points at max, no matter how many games you end up playing.

Quoted from fna_royam:

TaylorVA, yes plan more Richmond events. I'll try and bring a van full of Northern VA players but I won't allow people in the van unless they've played 5 IFPA events.

Quoted from Newsom:

It is said many times by many people that WPPRs are secondary.
Secondary to socializing, playing, having fun etc.
But man do changes in the WPPR system send shockwaves through tournament formats!
How many side tournaments (yes I realize that they are not classified side anymore) do you think that we will see this year compared to the last few years?
When I would run WPPR 4.0 tournaments, people would contact me for assurance that the event would be an annual rather than a periodic and that they would get full points.
Other people were stunned that I do not plan to change the Maryland Pinball Championship format this year so that the WPPRs would be maximized.
People are so serious about WPPRs and maximizing the WPPR potential at events.
As though having a high WPPR ranking legitimizes a player.
Some WPPRs are just much easier to get than others.
PAPA WPPRs? Pretty tough. Certainly tougher than local tourney WPPRs.
Super league WPPRs? Look pretty easy to get. As do the DMV tournament ones ( I did not actually go to the tournament, so I'm guessing a little).
Yes, DC has a lot more opportunities for WPPRs than Richmond, but it is nothing like Portland, Seattle, or NYC.
I can't say that I care for the trend of tournaments putting such a priority on maximizing WPPRs.