Yep. Hopefully boards will arrive and Keith has more time.

Jack has stated he wants "playable" games when shipped. I thin most of the code will be their but I don't think it will be 100%. Given the history of games last few years. I think it will be similar to what we have seen in the past from Stern. There will be errors to fix, lighting effects added, possible some modes tweeked. I don't think that aspect will change.
I'm not a programmer but I'm sure the added load of LCD and RGB lighting has made the code quite a project.

Yeah, hopefully they have an option on the game to make the font 72 point for geezers like me.

LMAO!

What does that have to do with it?

He didn't say that the expected delay would fall solely to the code...and even if it did, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that JJP's "word" as far as when expected ship dates will be are about as reliable as something that's extremely unreliable. They don't even try to offer a realistic estimate, and the fact they aren't even sure when they're getting the boards in....still? Yeesh.

Yeah, I tend to agree that I think that they will not be shipping machines in quantity next month and possibly into April or May.

Just stick a piece of paper at the right side of the score with two zeros on it. That is all Stern is doing is adding zeros.

I personally think it is pretty lame in games where you can score a billion points in a matter of 5 minutes of gameplay.

Attack from Mars wHATTTTTTT?

lol...

LOL, you said it not me

Oof, too many twinkly sound effects for me, sounds way too much like a newer video slot machine.

While I shouldn't speak on behalf of other people, I've met him in person enough to know that he's a smart enough guy to take into account all of the information that was presented, even if he's solely commenting about the programming on that post.

How many times have you met him? You have any idea what his job is, what he knows, or anything about him other than what little you've seen on this board? Just saying... sounds to me like you made a rather large assumption about something you don't know anything about.

Anyways...I'm getting off my soapbox as far as that goes..wasn't trying to start an argument. Thanks for linking to the video. I don't find the sound effects that bad, but man, there's a ton of info on that LCD that I will never see while playing. At least it will give observers something interesting to look at!

Anyone noticed they seem to have toned down the good witch voiceover?

Often when playing a goal-based game, I'll capture the ball, then go through the instant information to see where I stand toward objectives. I can see myself doing the same with WOZ, but the information is more readily available, more complete, and even looks better.

Yes, voiceover is less frantic, which we were always told it would be. It also appears, but hard to confirm from short clips, that the scoring may have been boosted somewhat.

I played the game and it is awesome! Best built and nicest looking machine I've ever seen. I hope Jack just takes the time to get it right. We all love Pinball and want this to be a great game...and the next. Damn, some of you just seem like you hate the hobby...

The nerve of Jack to start a company, pick WOZ as a theme and build a game! He shall NEVER be forgiven! It's an outrage! The game isn't released yet and it's not even finished! Doesn't he know it should be finished months before it's going to ship and they should show us everything before it does?!?! We as pinball players and collectors have rights!!! He's ruining pinball as we know it!

The nerve of him was when he was bashing competitor's products (that he used to say he liked to help sell) and the company itself for not providing things in a timely manner. When new car companies come into being, they have never directly bashed their competition because they know as time marches on, they are closer and closer to their own problems/issues.

There is a chance that the released code will have a few extra zeroes for scoring etc. Might be the way to easily determine if the machine has the prototype code and/or boards/PC.

you should look at the Predator, seems like you can score over one Billion+ points, literally some jackpots are 25,000,000 points.

Cripes, old news. Stern wasn't an innocent bystander either. Jack and Gary made up long ago.

LTG : )

I don't care what Jack or Gary do, except put out quality games. It's business, yet lots of people around here are so offended about what occurred between them in the past. Let them deal with the business, and let us concentrate on the games.

Sometimes I replace ROMs to divide the scores by 10 so that a 100 point bumper only scores 10 points.

It's gonna be AWESOME BABY!!!...As Dickie V would say a PTP'er...

I am freaking excited!!.....

along with BHZA and Predator its just a great time to have pinball as a hobby...

Btw, I played TOTAN again last night in Austin and its just a thing of beauty, the detailed artwork is unreal and really love some of the nuances of the game....go get em Jpop!

The LCD is cool, can't argue with you there Buddy.

There "were" 20,000 Addams Family machines but production stopped long ago & the last 20 years have decreased the # of machines in existence significantly. So yeah WOZ may go up in value in 2034 indeed.

Stern wasn't out publicly bashing JJP. Stern has their own sins but that's not one. Stern has always taken the stay-out-of-the-fray approach.

This whole issue shouldn't be an issue but I really do believe there's a sweet spot for scoring. Even when I have a good game on avengers my score is pretty low. Doesn't feel like I've accomplished as much as some of the other pins. On the other hand a game like baywatch where you hit a sling for 100billion is a little overboard There's a nice happy medium somewhere.

Then I must have misunderstood what was said at the Transformer launch party at Expo 2011.

Lloyd

Is it really your stance that something purported to have been said nearly 2 years ago and since rectified, still has relevance today and should be used to color our opinion of that person?

Seems like it, keeps getting brought up in most JJP threads by a few who just can't let it go.

Or a few who don't have all the facts and in the process appear quite foolish.

Good one! I hope I am alive in 2034 watching UT finally beat 'Bama again as it might take that long to rebuild the team. The only reason I mention football is because of the comment about the future where Nick Saban made a funny remark about super football conferences and not really giving a crap who they play. In 2034 I be 66/67 I hope I can still play pinball and move pins especially a heavy WOZ as I already moved it three times and its heavy, very heavy.

You did and that's the only example you have.

JJP and team did. The facts are easily accessible through YouTube videos and first-hand witnessing of jabs at Stern. Quite frankly it doesn't bother me at all. I find it funny. Many of their jabs showed their total lack of experience and ended up biting them in the arse. I do agree it's old and probably should be dropped. Although I think it's only ever used to refute what fanbois say. And you'll notice that Jack made a very good decision to stop posting here and getting in fights with people. It's really just best to stay out of it all. Again, like stern does. So kudos to him on that front.

When I was first getting into the hobby, you could buy TAFs *all day long* for $1400. They weren't NIB, but they were nice games.

If Jack makes a billion of these like I hope and - the biggest key - gets a ton of them on route, their prices will come down on them, at least for a while. Just like others have said though, I would welcome NIB pins not immediately appreciating in value. If Stern was selling Tron for $4600 and a couple months later, Tron is selling for $4800 used, it means that Stern should have made more to make more money. Stern (and JJP) don't owe the secondary market anything, and I for one would be absolutely fine if those people who get up in arms if their NIB games don't go up in value decide to move on.

While I can see your point, we are being told that this game is going after a new/younger market. Like it or not, we are a HUGE number society now. I just can't see that "new/younger" audience getting excited about scoring 54,200 points.

I liken it to inflation. There was a time when having $100 meant you were wealthy... Then $1,000 became the new benchmark... Then $1,000,000....

I think i was the last to be attacked. Cant agree with you more chuck.....