I think that is the point. They want to connect it to the show, but only very little. Because you want the theme to be timeless. 10 years from now, people arn't going to give a shit about TWD. But with it being focused on the zombies, now it's just a great zombie game. (if it's good that is)

but this is a TV show, not an epic timeless movie. Pirates did an ok job at keeping the actors out of the pin. TF did a great job of not putting actors in it and keep it about transformers, which has already earned it's epic status over the past 25 years. If they would have plastered Ladouche's face all over the playfield and cabinet, it wouldn't have been as timeless.

yes, but with keeping the focus on the zombie aspect. your opening up a broader range of people that will be interested. If you focus on everything from the show, actors and what not, only the fans of the show will really appreciate it. By keeping it vague zombie. You open up the doors for zombie fans in general, and TWD fans. Better marketing by Stern to do it that way.

That's not the point. What's a bigger range?

Fans of TWD. Or Fans of TWD + Zombie fans?

Which one you think is bigger? Why not focus on both audiences? There are many many people out there, that have not seen the show. As you saw earlier with my spoiler alerts and creating an angry mob.

In general yes, but not always. If it's a timeless subject already and proven so, like addams family and TZ. Then use the series and implement it well. TWD hasn't been around long enough to know how timeless it will or will not be. Stern is scared to go with anything not licensed. I think they are trying to cover there ass in both aspects with this one. Which I think is a great idea.

The art package, layout and toys is one of the better ones i've seen out of Stern. I havn't played it, so I can't judge on gameplay or rules. Until I get 50+ games in it, I can't say if it sucks or it's great. Many games out there look great, but suck because of rules or layout. Many games out there look terrible, but are fun as shit.

I'm not saying not to have the call outs by the original actors. Call outs will not break the zombie feel. You have to have someone call it out stuff. If it's the actors, then you have fans of the show excited. If your just a zombie fan, your not going to know the difference anyway, so it doesn't matter. That's why the voice call outs don't really matter as much for keeping it neutral. It's all in the art package and how the rules are done which can keep it neutral or not.

if your paying for the rights of something. It seems logical that you would also be able to use whatever sound clips you wanted from that license. Custom work I can see being a problem, but there is so much dialogue they have to choose from, i'm sure they can wing it.

sometimes they can. I'm sure JJP was after this license as well, and Jack might have created a bidding war, which in return would make Gary negotiate to omit more from the license.

I said might, meaning I don't know, but it's a possibility. Need to read closer. Wouldn't be the first time this has happened when negotiating rights.

I was referring might as a possibility to any of it happening. Saying it was a theory in general of what could be. You read it the way you wanted to read it and misinterpreted what I was suggesting.

Nope, apparently you don't know what "Sure" and "might" in this context was referring to. If I knew for sure I would have said.

Jack was after the license as well, and created a bidding war with Gary. Gary in return had to reduce his demand on the license to negotiate rights. <----------that's how it would have sounded if I was stating it as a known fact.

If you reread that statement, I was doing a version of my statement if I was stating things as facts. That would have been the way it was worded. That was the point of that post, is to show him the difference of stating something as fact, or something as a could be or what if situation.

and what part of "i'm sure" doesn't sound as speculation?

I knew there was something with TWD and JJP but wasn't sure on what interaction they had on the subject. Hence why I made a speculation statement on what could have happened, since I didn't know the story. If it came across as fact. I apologize as it was not my intent when posting.

i'm sure, used certain ways also means, "i'm taking a guess". Depending on which reference you're using it in.

Actually, i'm thinking more on taking a piece of candy. mm piece of candy.......mmm piece of candy.....mm piece of candy....mm piece of candy.......mmm piece of candy.....mm piece of candy....
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they look like those anus square candies.

yes I know they are anise candies but the taste like anus.

havn't you? You've never tossed a chics salad before?

btw, a clean anus tastes better than those candies.

From eating ass or the candies?

Lets keep it on track people, we are talking about Anus Squares here.

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Wouldn't that promote scooting?