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    #1 6 years ago

    Hi guys, I am thinking about buying my first Pinball Machine, and I wanted to get some general advice. First off, I am wanting to try to keep a budget around $2000. I am checking my local Craigslist for machines but I am coming up with very little activity considering I am located in Central Oregon. I have decided I like the look and play of slightly more modern machines (around 2000 and up). So with this info, is there any suggestions on a particular machine that would fit my budget...maybe a "fixer-upper"? I am pretty handy at fixing things both electrical and mechanical. Also, is there any chance of any members here that may live close by with a machine in my price range? Thanks for any and all suggestions

    #2 6 years ago

    your first machine should probably not be a fixer upper and you will have a hard time finding a modern machine in your price range.

    #3 6 years ago

    Now is the worst time to get into pinball(cost speaking that is).

    #4 6 years ago

    I'd look at mid 90's pins, there's some out there that are cheap and have a lot of features like the modern ones do. I'm not sure on U.S prices but I'd assume you could get something like a dm, lah, stargate, tftc or some thing similar. If your playing for fun don't listen to people telling you it's a bad time to get into pinball, pay what your willing to for something you enjoy and if the price drops in 5 years who really cares? You get 5 years of playing something you enjoy. If you do plan on only buying 1 and are tight on your budget you may want to try and raise more cash (if needed) to buy a pin you are 100% happy with and will fill your itch. My first pin was a space jam and while I still enjoy it for a bash on after a few weeks it was a bit stale and has led to me buying more pins to try and find the right one for me (which i think I have in RBION)

    My other advice is to read up before you go to look at any pins and perform any tests you can while there thoroughly, take the glass off, roll the ball over all the switches, check all the lights are showing when they should, check the coils and parts look well looked after.

    #5 6 years ago

    I have a players condition Stargate I would consider selling for $1500. paint flaking in left outlane. Working 100% rest of PF in good shape. Cab and BG in good shape.

    We have a lot of pinsiders in WA OR and CA. There are a number of fun pins still in the 2K range.

    Welcome to pinside and best of luck with your search.

    #6 6 years ago

    How far from Walla Walla are you? I might have a few pins for sale. I'm not sure if I'm done with the hobby quite yet. Lets just say if Seattle gets the Sonics(don't care about them) and then gets and NHL team(do care about that) I'm done.

    #7 6 years ago
    Quoted from ktrain315:

    your first machine should probably not be a fixer upper and you will have a hard time finding a modern machine in your price range.

    If he's looking for games that cost $2000 from the year 2000+ ...I think he could find a few. Some of the early 2000 Sterns can be found in that range. South Park, Austin Powers, High Roller Casino, Sharkey's Shootout, Striker Xtreme, Roller Coaster Tycoon...possibly even World Poker Tour, Playboy, Monopoly or T3.

    #8 6 years ago

    welcome to pinside. don't count out pre dmd pins. there are some great pre dmd games out there. what ever you do, play any game before you buy it. don't be shy about posting pics and asking questions. we were all where you are now. good luck. oh, the stargate sounds like a good deal. a fun dmd game with lots of cool stuff going on.

    #9 6 years ago

    I agree for older stuff I really have fun with Flash Gordon, Fathom, Black Knight, Space Shuttle, Taxi, Centaur.

    Outside of Centaur I think those are all in your price range also.

    #10 6 years ago
    Quoted from Shoot_Again:

    I agree for older stuff I really have fun with Flash Gordon, Fathom, Black Knight, Space Shuttle, Taxi, Centaur.
    Outside of Centaur I think those are all in your price range also.

    all good games. also whirlwind,high speed,earth shaker,roller games,bk2k, and in dmd land there are many to choose from,stargate, getaway,t2,fish tales,etc. oh, nascar. I have seen a few in nice condition go for 2 grand. some people pan the game but I rather enjoy it. there are many more great games out there. happy hunting.

    #12 6 years ago

    Save abit more money my friend,get one that you really want,thats what im in the process of doing,all the good ones cost abit of coin,its better to have one real nice machine you will appreciate,coz it took you so long to save for rather than have 3 tittles that are just average that you get over in a month or two,and cant sell them coz no one wants them,just saying that coz i rushed my first and only buy,and sort of regret it ,i was in the same situation as your in with the same amount of cash,but on the possitive side i learnt a bit about machines,from not knowing a thing about them,and got lots of help from the great people on pinside ,either way, it will be a good experiance,good luck ,let us know what you get....cheers

    #13 6 years ago

    Check RGP if you want something reasonable priced. Or go to local pinball auctions and shows. But those can be outrageous as well. Do lots of research and play a lot of games to figure out what games really stick to you and you know you enjoy. Keep an open mind and don't buy into the hype that forums create for certain titles or manufacturers. Every manufacturer has good and bad games. Going to pinball shows and playing tons of different games will give you a better idea on what your looking for. Also, local collectors that have pin parties is another way to do it. Usually you get cookie cutter collections that way, many times, were it's all B/W titles with a few new stern thrown in and all DMD. But more and more seem to expanding their horizons.

    #14 6 years ago

    If you're in central oregon, you best be traveling up to portland. It's like the mecha center capital of pinball machines. Surely you can find something up there (or at least start looking on their craigslist)

    #15 6 years ago

    You will find more favorable titles if you up your price range to 3000-3500 dollars and you will be a ton happier.

    #16 6 years ago

    It may sound crazy....but watch a lot of youtube videos as well. It is a game you are going to have to live with and I find youtube helps out a ton! There are many guys reviewing games, you get to see how they play and hear the sounds they make.
    JP is a great game around your budget. It is easy to understand, has cool features and a ton of fun to mod for a beginner. It is the game that got me started in the hobby....just be prepared for more machines you're GOING to buy!

    #17 6 years ago

    after youtube you can look for it on location or play virtual pins. I also really like Xbox/ Ps3 HOF williams collection.

    Worst case find a local guy or go to ground kontrol or stryker's arcade etc.. We are lucky to have so many locations in WA and OR.

    #18 6 years ago

    Ok guys, thanks so much for all the advice! Right now I have one other small problem....a tiny house and I already have an arcade cab. I am trying to figure out how I am going to fit another toy in here lol. I am going to look at some video of stargate and JP to see if those look like something I would enjoy. unfortunately there is a VERY limited selection of Pinball to play here in my area, but toyotaboy is correct, Portland does have a lot more cool stuff there and its about 3 hours away. Some of the machines rarehero has mention sound cool, especially Monopoly. I honestly have no idea what to look for when checking out a used machine. I have read some info about it, but I will most likely screw up my first purchase which is why I think I would like to keep my budget a bit lower. Have to head out to work now...thanks again guys!

    #19 6 years ago

    Man $2,000 limits your choices, but it can be done. Get something along the lines of an older pin like Taxi, Party Zone, etc. Simple and fun. Best thing to do is find a pinsider or two with a good rep in your area and get some personal input while playing as many pins as you can to get a sense of what is out there before you get neck deep in the buying mode.

    #20 6 years ago

    Thanks speed, Finding a pinsider in my area might be a little tough. Kinda small towns around here (except Portland). Its not that I cannot afford a higher price range, its just that I don't want to spend a small fortune on something I am not sure I will love. I have not had a chance to play much at all. When I was a kid I used to love to play Pinball, but we had no money so I mostly just watched. I would probably up my budget by quite a bit if I knew for sure i would enjoy a particular machine long term.

    Also, I should probably mention there is a Demolition Man in my town. But from the description, I would guess it probably need some work. They want $2400

    #21 6 years ago

    Depending on what you want or need, $2,000 can be a lot or a little amount of money for pinball.

    I currently have 3 machines: Two older EM machines and a mid-80's SS machine, and I have not yet hit $2,000 spent. That works for me, others here would consider my collection archaic.

    Do some research, see what themes do and don't work for you, and spend time at http://ipdb.org/search.pl to look at pics and read player reviews.

    If you have a dream machine or two, save up and find a good one. If not, see what's out there and test the market. Grab two nice $1,000 machines that are different playstyles and flip the one that you don't like as much in a year. Sounds like a day trip to Portland is in your future.

    Luck!

    #22 6 years ago

    Here's one out-of-the-box suggestion:

    Consider a virtual cabinet.

    Ive seen them sold for around $2K. For this, you could get a sense of 100's of games that are out there, and if one floats your boat, you can try adding it down the line.

    And especially if you have limited space- this MIGHT be an option to consider. I know if i could ONLY have 2 machines, a virtual cab would be one of them. If I could only have 1? Harder to say...

    #23 6 years ago

    Welcome to the hobby! Hope you get as much enjoyment out of it as I have.
    If you are not afraid to dig into a project pin, you are miles ahead of many
    collectors. If you can, attend a show to get an idea of what type of pin(s)
    you like. As others have said, don't be quick to discount older machines.
    Many are every bit as challenging as new pins but a fraction of the cost
    and far easier to get parts for and repair.
    Steve

    #24 6 years ago

    I have considered a virtual pin. I built my arcade cab from scratch, so I would not have too much trouble building a pin from scratch as well. I just do not think virtual pin is my cup of tea. I would love to attend a show or something, but I really hate to travel If I could find one in Oregon, I think I would go check it out.

    I have looked at the top rated pins and LOTR, Simpsons Pinball Party, Pirates, Shrek, and Ripleys sound like they would be fun to play. But I have never actually played any of them.

    #25 6 years ago

    There are still deals to be found, just keep your eyes open. I have only paid over $2k for one of my machines and only been collecting for a year. All but my DW were bought in the past 6 months, so stay sharp, don't get discouraged and you will find the right pin within your budget.

    #26 6 years ago

    Yeah, go to a show and play a bunch of pins. Get an idea of what kind of game you want. Terminator 2 is in that price range and is a fun game. Check out You tube for a video of the play.

    #27 6 years ago

    Lots of choices. I agree with those who advise you to be sure to get something you want, not something you'll settle for. Also, be prepared to want another one after that! Not many people here have only one pin, whatever their original intention. I never dreamed I'd end up with 5-10 pins instead of 1-3.

    #28 6 years ago
    Quoted from loppydog:

    I have looked at the top rated pins and LOTR, Simpsons Pinball Party, Pirates, Shrek, and Ripleys sound like they would be fun to play. But I have never actually played any of them.

    Don't worry about 'top rated' ...right now you're talking to a bunch of junkies who've most likely been doing this for years, and we're all jaded know-it-alls. ...here's something we often forget. Your first pin is THE BEST GAME EVER, no matter what its reputation is, cuz...dude, there's a pinball machine in your house!!!! Everyone here might say it's the worst game of all time, but you won't care - you'll play it 50 times a day. My first pin was Back to the Future...and my only pin for a few years. Seasoned pin guys would always scoff..."bleh...you have THAT piece of sh*t?!" ...whatever, I loved that thing. Eventually I came to the same conclusion lol...but, hey - don't underestimate the wonderful feeling of "FIRST PIN" ...it won't matter what anyone else thinks.

    #29 6 years ago
    Quoted from loppydog:

    Hi guys, I am thinking about buying my first Pinball Machine, and I wanted to get some general advice. First off, I am wanting to try to keep a budget around $2000. I am checking my local Craigslist for machines but I am coming up with very little activity considering I am located in Central Oregon. I have decided I like the look and play of slightly more modern machines (around 2000 and up). So with this info, is there any suggestions on a particular machine that would fit my budget...maybe a "fixer-upper"? I am pretty handy at fixing things both electrical and mechanical. Also, is there any chance of any members here that may live close by with a machine in my price range? Thanks for any and all suggestions

    $2K is way more than what you need for a fixer upper. You could buy a decent working game for $1400, then find a project to work on for $600.

    #30 6 years ago

    I just recently got into this hobby as well and my first pin is being delivered tomorrow(ID4). I know that it isn't the most desirable pin out there, but I am using this as my entry point to learning about pinball ownership.

    I know you said you hate to travel but the Northwest Pinball show is coming in June and will be held in Tacoma,WA this year. I am sure there will be plenty of people from Portland there. If anything, it is a great way to make connections with people who rotate through inventory a lot quicker.

    Also, don't be afraid to arrange shipping for a pin that isn't in your area. Pinside recommends using NAVL(North American Van Lines). I used them for mine and it was quite simple. Having my pin shipped from CA to WA as about $350 or so.

    Also, heed this advice! Don't let the battle hardened pinsheads scare you from getting a "less collectible" pin the first few times around.

    Quoted from Rarehero:

    Don't worry about 'top rated' ...right now you're talking to a bunch of junkies who've most likely been doing this for years, and we're all jaded know-it-alls. ...here's something we often forget. Your first pin is THE BEST GAME EVER, no matter what its reputation is, cuz...dude, there's a pinball machine in your house!!!! Everyone here might say it's the worst game of all time, but you won't care - you'll play it 50 times a day. My first pin was Back to the Future...and my only pin for a few years. Seasoned pin guys would always scoff..."bleh...you have THAT piece of sh*t?!" ...whatever, I loved that thing. Eventually I came to the same conclusion lol...but, hey - don't underestimate the wonderful feeling of "FIRST PIN" ...it won't matter what anyone else thinks.

    Trust me, I was apprehensive about picking up my ID4 as a first pin because of "simple rules", "you'll get bored fast", blah blah blah. Just have patience. LOTS of patience. But when something does come up, be ready to jump on it because even the "less desirable" pins seem to get gobbled up fast.

    Post edited by Elfman : spelling

    #31 6 years ago
    Quoted from loppydog:

    I have considered a virtual pin. I built my arcade cab from scratch, so I would not have too much trouble building a pin from scratch as well. I just do not think virtual pin is my cup of tea. I would love to attend a show or something, but I really hate to travel If I could find one in Oregon, I think I would go check it out.
    I have looked at the top rated pins and LOTR, Simpsons Pinball Party, Pirates, Shrek, and Ripleys sound like they would be fun to play. But I have never actually played any of them.

    No worries- Virtual Cabs arent for everyone... and they dont replace pinball

    But here's an alternate thought:

    You said you havent played many of the games and travelling to shows isnt easy either.

    So, download Visual Pinball to your computer and download a few of the tables mentioned.... its all FREE! Load it on your biggest monitor and bang away.

    It will, at the very least, give you an interactive idea of the various games.... Id say the next best thing if you cant go play them all first.

    I love using it to experience games I just cant find or play easily (CC for example), but also playing some has convinced me that Id like to own the machine (ie TSPP). So Im also using it to pre-scout future purchases as well...

    #32 6 years ago
    Quoted from Rarehero:

    Don't worry about 'top rated' ...right now you're talking to a bunch of junkies who've most likely been doing this for years, and we're all jaded know-it-alls. ...here's something we often forget. Your first pin is THE BEST GAME EVER, no matter what its reputation is, cuz...dude, there's a pinball machine in your house!!!! Everyone here might say it's the worst game of all time, but you won't care - you'll play it 50 times a day. My first pin was Back to the Future...and my only pin for a few years. Seasoned pin guys would always scoff..."bleh...you have THAT piece of sh*t?!" ...whatever, I loved that thing. Eventually I came to the same conclusion lol...but, hey - don't underestimate the wonderful feeling of "FIRST PIN" ...it won't matter what anyone else thinks.

    truer words have never been spoken...

    there are many of us out here who will never own an "a-list" (or b/c/d list) pin who are very happy campers...

    op, get out and play some games.... buy something that fits your budget... play it and enjoy it... as noted by rarehero, simply having a game will keep you happy for quite awhile...

    i'm relatively old... but i still remember thinking when i was a yute pumping nickels and dimes into machines that it would be the coolest thing in the world to have my very own machine... and (short of my theater) it IS the coolest thing in the world...

    as a side note, it's always amusing to see the reaction of people you know... "you have a pinball machine? at home? really? wow, that's so neat, can i come play it?"... or they think you are completely nuts...

    bottom line... play some games, buy one that fits your budget, and be happy... there are scads of machines out there that are lots of fun to play that many here will simply turn their noses up at (cough... em's... cough)...

    #33 6 years ago

    Wow, lowepg, weren't you at one pin just a few weeks ago? Coming back with a vengeance!

    #34 6 years ago

    Good idea lowepg i will do that. I installed flipper buttons on my arcade cab so I could play pinball on it. I use future pinball. I know Visual Pinball is more accurate so I suppose I should switch over to that. It seems to be the only way to test actual machines virtually. I just found that Future Pinball is easier to setup for a one screen horizontal layout. So far I think I like the look of Jurassic Park, and the link the the one for sale in CA is looking tempting.

    So these shows you guys are talking about, how do they work? Do you just pay an admission and free play others machines? Is it setup like an arcade to take quarters? Then if you like a machine you just purchase it then and there?

    #35 6 years ago

    Welcome to a great hobby and Pinside !

    Learn as much as you can. Buddy up with locals. Ask for help.

    That can get you off to a great start and a lot of fun in the hobby.

    LTG : )

    #36 6 years ago
    Quoted from The_Director:

    Wow, lowepg, weren't you at one pin just a few weeks ago? Coming back with a vengeance!

    A little more than 1, but close...

    I swear I thought I could get back into the hobby slowly...

    As rationalization:
    I thought I was going to OWE big tax money this year (as I usually do), however I changed division within my company mid year in 2012. I didnt realize it was a different FEIN and they restarted my FICA, so I ended up unwittingly paying doubvle FICA- which I was able to get all back at tax time....ok- thats probably really boring tax talk- restated: instant pinball buying funds.

    I also choose to liquidate some items from my other hobby/obsession, gun collecting. THAT market is at an insane price run-up and I felt it was a good time to cash in a few items...

    Note: I also explained to my wife I was only buying back a fraction of my old collection... as if that was going to be a savings

    Unfortunately, I don't think ill ever be able to replace games like MB and SS... so thats why I also invested in a Virtual cab from VirtuaPin.

    #37 6 years ago

    There are lot of choices for $2,000 or less.... has everyone gone mad?

    JP
    Popeye
    JD
    T2
    SG
    BF
    SST
    LW3
    .......ect.

    Most of these games can be had for under $2,000 unless they are in exceptional shape.

    #38 6 years ago
    Quoted from loppydog:

    So these shows you guys are talking about, how do they work? Do you just pay an admission and free play others machines? Is it setup like an arcade to take quarters? Then if you like a machine you just purchase it then and there?

    Most of these shows are setup as pay for access approach. Meaning you pay for a day pass or the entire weekend at a bit of a discount. Then once in the door, you can play as many machines as you can get your hands on(most will be set on free play). Some of the higher end machines may be reserved for tournament play all weekend but it is also a great time to see some of the best players in pinball play these tables with surgical precision. All of the machines are brought by area collectors and enthusiasts and it is up to them if they are for sale or not. Most will be labeled clearly. If you have the cash and a means to take the machine, then you can make the transaction right then and there. More than likely, they will want you to wait until Sunday towards the end of the show to take the machine home so more people can play it. These shows are more about keeping the hobby alive and letting you play tables you might not have ever tried before.

    You can check out the prices for the NW Pinball show here: http://www.nwpinballshow.com/

    Hope to see you there!

    #39 6 years ago

    JP and Stargate are both great choices and well within your 2k budget. You can't go wrong with either one. Stargate is my number 6 favorite of all time and JP is my number 12. Personally, as your first pin and easier to understand. I'd go with JP, only because it's your first. Stargate is very deep and complex. JP is more up front fun and has one of the best toys in pinball.

    #40 6 years ago
    Quoted from CaptainNeo:

    JP and Stargate are both great choices and well within your 2k budget. You can't go wrong with either one. Stargate is my number 6 favorite of all time and JP is my number 12. Personally, as your first pin and easier to understand. I'd go with JP, only because it's your first. Stargate is very deep and complex. JP is more up front fun and has one of the best toys in pinball.

    You gave SG such a high rating... why in the world did you part with it?

    As for the OP... I would open your target range into pins from 1990's and up... way more (and probably better) options.

    #41 6 years ago

    because there is no such thing as not for sale. Regardless on how much you like a game.

    #42 6 years ago
    Quoted from whisper:

    Save abit more money my friend,get one that you really want,thats what im in the process of doing,all the good ones cost abit of coin,its better to have one real nice machine you will appreciate,coz it took you so long to save for rather than have 3 tittles that are just average that you get over in a month or two,and cant sell them coz no one wants them,just saying that coz i rushed my first and only buy,and sort of regret it ,i was in the same situation as your in with the same amount of cash,but on the possitive side i learnt a bit about machines,from not knowing a thing about them,and got lots of help from the great people on pinside ,either way, it will be a good experiance,good luck ,let us know what you get....cheers

    Listen to this advice! I am in the same situation

    #43 6 years ago

    OK, there is one more option. I just noticed there is a Super Mario pin located in Portland. Here is a link:
    http ://portland.craigslist.org/clc/tag/3745985750.html

    what do you think? Is this game any good? I like the theme.

    #44 6 years ago

    Not a good first game. But some advice. If you see a game you think is a deal, never, ever post the link on Pinside. If you do, by the time you decide on it, it'll be gone. Ask general questions but don't tell anyone, no pin "friends", no boards, nothing on the specifics until it's in your truck.

    Quoted from loppydog:

    http ://portland.craigslist.org/clc/tag/3745985750.html

    #45 6 years ago

    Have you been watching pinball classifieds? If not, google it and see what is in your area. Also, use this tool: http://pinside.com/pinball/map/where-to-play

    Go to some of these locations with quarters in hand (some might be pay by the hour) and start playing! Play each game 6 or 7 times each. Read the rules... give them a good test drive. That will help narrow your search.

    You might find that Williams games just "feel" right to you. You might hate the way a Stern feels. You might fall in love with Data East game... or a Gott...

    Pinside is awesome, but what you like others may hate and vice-versa. Just look at the ratings. For example, I LOVE my F-14 Tomcat... others, HATE it.

    Also, some of these arcades sell their machines. Just ask if they sell and take a peek at their price list.

    Honestly, I'd do all of that before I plop any money down for a machine. The machines aren't going anywhere... all you have to gain is making a more informed choice.

    #46 6 years ago

    good advice jalpert...any particular reason why its not a good first game? I watched a youtube clip and it looked kinda neat, but I do not want to end up with a crap machine. There is also a streetfighter pin...I assume its not any better.

    thanks 27dnast, I have looked at that map, and I am in a "no pin zone" .

    #47 6 years ago

    If I were in your area, I'd take a shot at that Super Mario Bros. To me it is a fun game. I'm partial to it though as a nintendo fan and I also have a lot of small kids in the house who love mario games. There was one on location near me for quite a while and I was always drawn to it. They don't sell for $3000+ like the author of the CL ad suggests. They might be listed for that amount, but will never sell. If it were for sale around me, $1500 would be on the high end but I would consider it if it was in good shape. I would try to get it around $1100- $1200.

    There are a lot of great games under $2000. If you are set on the DMD screen, then start in the early 90's as others here have suggested. There are a ton of Early to Mid 90's games to choose from.

    Good Luck and Welcome to pinball. Hope you have fun and stick around a while!

    #48 6 years ago
    Quoted from Rarehero:

    .here's something we often forget. Your first pin is THE BEST GAME EVER, no matter what its reputation is, cuz...dude, there's a pinball machine in your house!!!!

    Yes!...this IS very true. I got Pin Bot and thought it was the greatest thing in the world. Everyone would be amazed that I actually had a pinball machine in the house. Otherwise we had to go down to the shore boardwalk to play...ahhhh, the good old days!

    #49 6 years ago
    Quoted from loppydog:

    good advice jalpert...any particular reason why its not a good first game? I watched a youtube clip and it looked kinda neat, but I do not want to end up with a crap machine. There is also a streetfighter pin...I assume its not any better.
    thanks 27dnast, I have looked at that map, and I am in a "no pin zone" .

    Well, since my theory is that any first game is a good game, why not!?

    Super Mario Pros:
    Great music, sounds, light shows. If you're a Mario fan this goes a long way. The music is remixes of Super Mario World SNES. It's also the first time Charles Martinet was ever the speaking voice of Mario! It's pretty "deep" for a game of its time. You have to progress thru 8 castles, there are various modes.

    Cons:
    The shots aren't that varied and are pretty easy. Wide open ramps, holes, etc. If you want a challenge this game isn't it.

    ...but again...first game? I dunno, why not? There are a bunch of videos of it on Youtube...check 'em out, see if you're feeling it. If not, then don't get it just to get it...something you REALLY want will pop up.

    #50 6 years ago
    Quoted from spfxted:

    Yes!...this IS very true. I got Pin Bot and thought it was the greatest thing in the world. Everyone would be amazed that I actually had a pinball machine in the house. Otherwise we had to go down to the shore boardwalk to play...ahhhh, the good old days!

    Dude! you almost have 107K! Do you have a job????

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