His best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Stern's accounting ledgers while on a factory tour.

Really enjoyed the interview, thanks Joel!

I get they are held to a tight design/mechanical/tooling budget on games over there at Stern, and it makes sense. I am just wondering when the last time was that they increased that game budget other than due to material costs. If they are making record revenues on record prices, would be nice to have some of that thrown back into the games.