(Topic ID: 216370)

New Stern Pins - Bill Validators


By danczaz

1 year ago



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#1 1 year ago

Hey Guys,

I just picked up my first two new sterns for my small route (Stern SW and GOTG). I wanted to buy a bill validator for each machine. Could someone point me in the right direction for what they use.

Thanks,
Dan

#2 1 year ago

you need 110 volt up stacker validator. ICT, Pyramid, Mars etc etc. I recommend mars personally. They are easy to rebuild and will last a long time. Can usually pick up a used one for around 100 on ebay or sometimes on here if people are selling some off. Whatever you buy make sure it comes with the harness.

#3 1 year ago
Quoted from Dr-Willy:

you need 110 volt up stacker validator. ICT, Pyramid, Mars etc etc. I recommend mars personally. They are easy to rebuild and will last a long time. Can usually pick up a used one for around 100 on ebay or sometimes on here if people are selling some off. Whatever you buy make sure it comes with the harness.

I thought they went to 12v to keep the HV off the door.

#4 1 year ago
Quoted from Marvin:

I thought they went to 12v to keep the HV off the door.

Some companies have gone 12v, stern has not, they come with an extra power cable you have to run from the backbox to the coin door area, so from the factory they do not come wired for 110v at the coin door, is something you do yourself (very simple, requires running the cable and just plugging it in.)

#5 1 year ago
Quoted from Dr-Willy:

Some companies have gone 12v, stern has not, they come with an extra power cable you have to run from the backbox to the coin door area, so from the factory they do not come wired for 110v at the coin door, is something you do yourself (very simple, requires running the cable and just plugging it in.)

OK, wasn't sure, just was looking for clarification.

#6 1 year ago

Is there a website link somewhere to a brand new (with harness) you could share?

#7 1 year ago

Make sure you test for correct crediting. For a while there, USA 4 would work while another labeled the same value did not.

#8 1 year ago
Quoted from danczaz:

Is there a website link somewhere to a brand new (with harness) you could share?

http://www.twistedquarter.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=483_484&products_id=703

I order from twisted quarter for a lot of my arcade parts and never had an issue. Or if you want here is the same validator from marco specialties but for more money.

http://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/A6-15SCP-USD4-II

Also note i have never used an ICT validator, i always use Mars ones that i find for cheap on ebay and rebuild however new in box mars ones are usually in the 350-400 dollar range.

#9 1 year ago
Quoted from Dr-Willy:

http://www.twistedquarter.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=483_484&products_id=703
I order from twisted quarter for a lot of my arcade parts and never had an issue. Or if you want here is the same validator from marco specialties but for more money.
http://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/A6-15SCP-USD4-II
Also note i have never used an ICT validator, i always use Mars ones that i find for cheap on ebay and rebuild however new in box mars ones are usually in the 350-400 dollar range.

Ok.. So is this plug and play then? (after i attach the cord that Stern provide to run from head to coin door) I wont need anything? juts buy this for $179 bucks and I'm all set?

#10 1 year ago
Quoted from danczaz:

I wont need anything?

Any validator you buy. Be sure the stacker holds 300 bills or less, or it won't fit. Most new validators come with 500 count holders or more.

LTG : )

#11 1 year ago
Quoted from LTG:

Any validator you buy. Be sure the stacker holds 300 bills or less, or it won't fit. Most new validators come with 500 count holders or more.
LTG : )

Do you have a link to one with a stacker that holds 300 or less

#12 1 year ago

i have a mars

MARS AE2611U3 takes $1,2,5,10,$20, NEW BILLS TO, REBUILT BILL ACCEPTOR DBV DBA 115vac
i can sell for $195 shipped.
yes it will work in sterns.
message me with interest.

#13 1 year ago
Quoted from danczaz:

Do you have a link to one with a stacker that holds 300 or less

No. Best check with who you buy it from.

MARS ( MEI ) stackers stay about the same. You can always find smaller stackers on Ebay and swap them. Some companies like ICT have changed them, so older smaller stackers won't fit.

LTG : )

#14 1 year ago
Quoted from danczaz:

Do you have a link to one with a stacker that holds 300 or less

Actually that's no longer entirely correct the new stern's can accommodate 500 bill stackers. You can tell the difference where the entire black portion of the stacker face will fit into the coin door. Also the full 5' cable to the head may also be included in your purchase.

#15 1 year ago
Quoted from Beebl:

Actually that's no longer entirely correct the new stern's can accommodate 500 bill stackers. You can tell the difference where the entire black portion of the stacker face will fit into the coin door. Also the full 5' cable to the head may also be included in your purchase.

even more confused now... I opened the GOTG and it indeed did have the that 5' cable.

http://www.twistedquarter.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=483_484&products_id=703

Does this even come with a stacker?

#16 1 year ago

Yes it has a stacker on the back. Check with Twisted to see how many bills it holds.

LTG : )

#17 1 year ago

Beston shows that part number as being a 500 bill magazine.

https://www.betsonparts.com/a6-15scpus4-110-v-validator.html

So, as Beebl points out, it may not fit unless its the correct DBV coin door. And smaller replacement bill boxes are not usually dirt cheap.

FWIW, it was our experience that you will have more jams with ICT and Apex acceptors than with MEI. You are better off getting a good used MEI than to worry about buying a new acceptor.

When new, the Magazine size is in the MEI part number : Near the end (Like U3E), U (Upstacker) or D (Downstacker) 2,3,5,7,10 (200-1000 bills) Last letter, E for single price harness or M for MDB (Vending) harness. But when buying used, beware of exactly what size magazine you will receive.

#18 1 year ago
Quoted from CactusJack:

Beebl points out, it may not fit unless its the correct DBV coin door. And smaller replacement bill boxes are not usually dirt cheap.

Agree with Cactus i use Mars/MEI validators, generally considered most reliable. MEI w/500 bill stacker fits in my KISS no problem, I don't know for sure about the ICT. I believe both SW and GOTG have the new style coin door.

#19 1 year ago

Yeah i have 500 count stackers in a few of my newer sterns.

#20 1 year ago

Here is the cheapest refurb'd mars i have found so far.

https://www.vendingworld.com/mars-vn2511-bill-validator.php

$153 with the harness, and you can upgrade to a large 500 stacker for an extra $25, I would double check to make sure it comes with a 300 stacker if you dont upgrade to the 500 as it does not specify.

#21 1 year ago
Quoted from Dr-Willy:

Here is the cheapest refurb'd mars i have found so far.

https://www.vendingworld.com/mars-vn2511-bill-validator.php

$153 with the harness, and you can upgrade to a large 500 stacker for an extra $25, I would double check to make sure it comes with a 300 stacker if you dont upgrade to the 500 as it does not specify.

Only takes $1's - won't accept larger denomination bills. You might not need $20's, but 5's and 10's are nice.

LTG : )

#22 1 year ago
Quoted from LTG:

Only takes $1's - won't accept larger denomination bills. You might not need $20's, but 5's and 10's are nice.
LTG : )

While i agree ad have those types on validators on most of my games, everyone might not care. Just in case here is a refurb'd one that takes 1 and 5's for 184 with the harness.

https://www.vendingworld.com/mars-vn2511-110-volt-1-5-bill-validator-flash-port.php

#23 1 year ago

I personally prefer MEI validators. Have them on all our games, and they just work. Like others have said, the 300 or smaller style bill boxes. The cable that runs from the backbox into the front is a snap to install. I'd recommend reaching out to Chris at kingpingames as I know he usually has used ones for sale at a good price. We've purchased a number from him in the past - reliable seller.

#24 1 year ago

The VN2511 doesn’t have an always enable mode so you will also need an enable plug. You want to find an AE2451 or an AE2411 and hack off the front left corner of the bezel to fit it on the coin door.

#25 1 year ago

Thanks for all the input guys.. I am going to review everything above and then get something.

#26 1 year ago

We upgraded to newer 115v acceptors that take $1, $5, $10, $20 as well as some 12v DBAs, so I've got a few good 2411's with 300 bill stackers that only take $1s that I'd sell for $90, but you'd still need the $15 (new price) harness. Since these have been used on a route in current pins already, the dip switch settings are all set to go. PM if you're interested.

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