There probably isn't any. That would have been really obvious immediately to anyone watching for a few minutes. We'd have heard more.

If extra ball has been added in the new programming, no one at expo will be seeing it as the games are on tournament mode for tournaments.

It's one of the most demanded revisions, so I would be surprised to see it not added in the new software.

Ohhh this sounds interesting! Got any video for us?
Did you notice the version of the code upon bootup?
Did they add any additional call outs?
Daft Punk mode?
Any embellishments/changes to recognizer/flynn modes?

Tell us more!

Wow...this update sounds EPIC.

It's day 2 of Expo and there has been very little info about software changes posted to Pinside.
Either the software is not that noticeably different...or it's so great all those at EXPO are too busy playing it to post.

COME ON FOLKS AT EXPO! DETAILS!!!!!

Reboot that puppy so we can see the code revision and post a clip on YOUTUBE of the game in action!

I snuck the door open when nobody was looking.

1.61 software.

So what differences did you notice with 1.61?

AGREED! Video Mode is a MUST on this game! Just make it an option to disable it

Latest release is v1.7 for Pro

Wait 1.61? Is this a joke? The last release of 11/2011 was 1.7 for the PRO.

Seriously...1.61.

I didn't play any of it. The game was in the tournament, and nobody was near it. It was powered on, and had the glass off for a film crew that was getting ready to film some gameplay. They were occupied with another game, so I snuck the door open and checked the revision.

That's all I know.

Pete

Wow how odd to drop back a software rev.? Well, I hope someone gets a chance to see it in action and can tell us the changes!

Pete, you may have seen the system rev 1.61. That is the latest SAM revision and is in the center of the screen when you go to the service menu. The game rev will be in the top left corner. Sneek another peek.

They just turned it on for qualifying. I watched it boot up. I's 1.71 so don't get too excited yet.

Yeah. Probly just dots and instant info for now. I doubt they would let a knew unknown software rev in a tourney. They kept 1.52 ACDC in PAPA even though they were testing 1.55 there. I think if 1.71 had gameplay changes, they might not allow it. Just speculation on my part.

Very likely. I was trying to do it stealthily and quickly, so I'm sure I wasn't being as thorough...and probably screwed up.

Sorry!

Pete

ok, so 1.71 is the new code. So far we have heard:

1) (holding)Left flipper button shows shots needed for each mode

2) The mystery award now shows icons of people like Gem and Quorra instead of
spelling them out like "Advance Gem"

3) The combo callouts are now graphical too

(updated 10/20/2012)

Lets add to this, come on sleuth detectives!

We'll if there is one thing positive we can get out of this.

This should put the rumor mill to bed on the subject that "Will there be another software update for Tron?"

Obviously the answer now is yes...and it's currently in the works.

Looking forward to seeing what other surprises are going to unfold with Stern's next public release of Tron code.

I'm hoping for Zuse to be represented by a timer bar just for consistency.

Exactly. I'm not normally a big fan of video modes on pins, but there are exceptions when it's done well (I like the VM's on AFM and MM for example), and Tron is a theme that calls for a video mode more than any theme out there. I'd like to see it myself, even if it isn't likely to happen.

So no pinsiders played TRON at EXPO or looked at it today to see whats new? Aren't you curious? We are!!!

I've never seen an optional video mode, have you? And the sheer amount of work required to get these implemented. It's one thing tweaking some rules. But coding a video mode is a whole project in itself. It's a mini video game with its own rules and had no base frame work to begin with. Well you could add hundreds of other cool pinball game related features. We know Lyman's time isn't infinite. I'd rather he was focusing on acdc updates, or anything else. The many hours coding a video mode would take that away from us.

CV Home Rom ...you can kill the Roonie video mode and some others.

Dunno if it's optional on other games...no video mode's ever bugged me enough to check the settings.

Yes, STTNG holodeck. You choose between 25,000,000 points or the video mode. Or Riker's Poker.

agreed. they just overplayed it in the original software. looking foward to a possible 3rd update?? ?

What's the story with that sound? I've heard it in the sound test, but I never played any earlier versions.

I think the flipper button status and the new graphics may be it. It is only a .1 rom revision increase at this time.

Nope, there's a bit more. Subtle stuff to round it out well. Also, as you eluded to, it may not be everything coming.

It was said that there was a video mode already created for TRON in an early software revision but it was dropped as it hadn't been completed or at least not to Borgs satisfaction. Can't remember who said it but I clearly remember reading it from one of the regulars that are in the know, so hopefully if that was true and it is featured in the missing code revision that was skipped over being realised maybe it wouldn't take long at all especially for Lyman to finish/polish an existing video mode? I sure hope it is true I'd love a video mode in TRON as the theme requires it IMO.

This is 100% true. To add to this, "if" we do get a video mode it will be unrelated to the original POS video mode that was there. That is dead and gone

What subtle stuff did you notice?

I could only watch someone play from a distance since it was in the tournament area and the only thing I could notice was the scoop random award animation previously mentioned.

The combo callouts are now graphical too.

New X-Men Pro code. It disables (or has a setting to disable the lock). I don't know the revision number, but all of the tourney games say "virtual locks" right on the machine. It's nice of them to take the time to make a revision that side steps an issue instead of fixing it properly. All in due time i suppose.

I also believe AC/DC was a new revision, but I'm not 100% on that.

The non tournament games I played were physically locking balls and not having issues releasing just one....

ok, so its the last day of EXPO. Can someone find out if there are more changes to the new TRON code than noted below and WHEN this version will be uploaded to Sterns site? Also, if the LE will get the same update.

Thanks so much for the sleuths at EXPO, there are hundreds of TRON owners so it would be worthwhile info!

1) (holding)Left flipper button shows shots needed for each mode

2) The mystery award now shows icons of people like Gem and Quorra instead of
spelling them out like "Advance Gem"

3) The combo callouts are now graphical too

Did anyone ask if this will be available for download soon on Sterns site? What were the reactions of the players? I guess there wasn't more than has been already mentioned...

I highly doubt they will release this as it is. They were testing for bugs and to see how folks like the new code, etc. I imagine they will add more polish before release.

Would be cool if it was a mystery reward.

It was just the X-Men games in the tourney area that I saw being updated.I didn't play any of them, but was told the update changed the locking. I'm guessing this update was only intended for tourney use.

I did notice a lot of the typical X-Men problems on the free play games (to many balls being released much of the time, poorly adjusted scoop switch, poorly adjusted Storm switch).

So after several days of new code running on TRON at EXPO, what is the basic consensus? Did you like the changes made, or were they just eh? I guess only a few on pinside tried the TRON at EXPO?

It is just very minor stuff right now. I talked to Lyman and got to visit his place after Expo. He has a great setup as you could imagine. Basically, he said it is the graphical stuff, instant status and there is also a few DMD priority changes and minor scoring changes. There is more to come, but I don't know when. He is really busy and has a bunch of games that he is working on fixing at home for his personal collection.

Well, whenever it comes, at least we know for sure he is working on it. Until now it was just a pipe dream since Tron is/was considered finished.

This is great news for Tron owners.
What other pinball machines did he have?

Great info, Les. I wanna play pins at Lyman's house. Color me jealous.

He had a ton of pins and a few vids too. He had a 720 arcade game which was fun to play again for the first time in quite a while..."Skate or Die!" He had a nice mix of games that he worked on and games he didn't work on. Had some very nice literally first off the line WMS games from back in the day too. He's a super nice, laid back guy. I had talked to him before at Pinnesota and stuff. My favorite line from him from this past weekend though had to be when he was playing AC/DC in qualifying. He drained and slammed the game, then said, "Stupid Steve Richie piece of shit." He was joking, but given the context, I couldn't help but to get a nice laugh out of that.

Hah! That's priceless.

If you live in Michigan, the Tron at Marvin's is running this new version of the software, V1.71.

Doug D.

DMD Priority Changes.
Would this mean, hopefully that when you start Light Cycle Multiball that everytime you get to see the kick ass DMD animation of Sam jumping on the building up Lightcycle? "Here we go....."

I think that is one of the coolest DMD animations on TRON and it's a great build up to starting Lightcycle multiball...the problem is you rarely get to see it as other DMD animations at the scoop hole take priority and that one typically gets bumped. It's only possible to see this DMD animation if you have the scoop hole lit for Lightcycle and nothing else when you fall in the hole.

Agreed.

Also, hopefully when you hit the GEM switch, the feedback for that takes priority. Since it is the hardest shot in the game, it needs to always give positive feedback when it is hit! There are times now when you hit it that you get no feedback, no sound, no video, nothing!

Cool, so who lives in michigan that can take a quick video for us
I know I would love to see the changes....