Looking to track down a game off the wishlist. Located on the west side of Cleveland so could do something prior to the show too.

Anyone have a Ripley's, Johnny Mnemonic, Jack Bot, Road Show, World Cup Soccer, Goldeneye or maybe World Poker Tour for sale? To save some back and forth, not really looking for $4K+ modded, powder coated, custom topper, etc. versions of these games. Let me know if you've got one of these you're looking to sell. Thanks.

Hate to ask, but is there any sense of if there will be a date when a firm go/no go decision on the show happening in light of virus spreading and event/work/school cancelations increasing by the hour?

Please don't take this as rooting for a cancel, just trying to make a travel/hotel decision like everyone else I'm sure.

I'll still attend both as usual! Two great shows, one 15 minutes from my house and one less than 1.5 hours is a cross I'm willing to bear! Not sure how this is a problem. Has anyone ever said "boy, I wish there were less great pinball shows and they were further away?"

Pinball shows are not exactly known for their hygiene and cleanliness anyway ,so I'm all for playing it safe. I can't imagine how much of a pain in the ass it has to be to plan these let alone have this happen and have to move the whole thing weeks before but it seems like the smart move and I have to assume support and momentum for the show will only increase.

I was too for a second then I realized the post said 2021, not this year. Took me a minute ha.

Right?! This is like the chicago/NY pizza debate. I have room in my life for both delicious options.

I got the notification on FB . Knowing how things are today postponing was absolutely the best move. Definitely plan to come out later this year and support it!

Gotta assume it will be moved or canceled with the rate at our vaccine roll out is going? Bunch of people shoulder to shoulder in a poorly ventilated area drinking...

Post-Covid? Uh...not sure how to tell you this but...

Not planning to, but to imply we (especially this train wreck of a state) are anywhere near "post-covid" is insane. Regardless what you choose not to believe or ignore, we are very much "in covid" still.

I'm not sure this proves your point the way you think it does. I gave up arguing with the BUT MUH FREEDOM people months ago. My wife works in healthcare in the UH system and has been dealing with the consequences of shit like this for a year. You are clearly free to do whatever you want, but it doesn't change the status of the pandemic to non-existent.

Well that is different then when you said "post covid crisis". We may be past the peak for now, but a large part of it is due to winter and people staying home more than they were and a lack of these large public events. I'm not telling anyone to go or not go, but pinball shows are gross under the best of conditions. A pinball show based on people gathering to all touch the same stuff in the same space while drinking in the same space with masks off is certainly not going to help things.

People are clearly willing to accept the risk and I can only control my own behavior, but we are not "post" covid anything. We may be past the peak for the state (for now), but it doesn't imply safety at events like this. I'm honestly not trying to derail this and hope the show can go on in a safe way for those that feel the need to attend, so I'll stop clogging up the thread ha.

I'm honestly not trying to be combative, but what information do you have about this that no one else does? We are still vaccinating the 65 and over group. Once you receive your first dose, there's a 4 week wait for the second one, then around 14 days after that for effectiveness...so about a 6 week wail from your first dose. There's no way that a relevant number of people will be vaccinated by the time of this show. The vaccine prevents symptoms, not passing the virus to someone else if you contract it.

Although people "know how to wear a mask responsibly", it's not possible to wear one while drinking beer. Is everyone going to be kept 6 feet apart while drinking? Once people are drunk are they still going to be "responsibly" wearing a mask?

Without bringing politics into it also, the illusion of safety your post gives is pretty irresponsible.

I hope everyone that chooses to attend stays healthy, but I don't see how that's possible given the circumstances. It will be an interesting experiment I guess, hope it works out.

Not planning to, but we are way behind. My 67 year old mother finally managed to get an appointment this week. My wife works in the UH system here and they have many people not yet vaccinated. I'm not sure if you're implying that the show will mainly be attended by the 65 and older group and medical professionals, but I don't see why that would be the case.

Like you said, I'm not going to I don't have a dog in the fight, people are going to do what they want, clearly. I do hope the show survives and I can attend in 2022, I'd love to go. My issue with these posts is that the misinformation being spread isn't accurate. Most people in attendance will not be vaccinated (and could still transmit the virus to others) and diligent mask wearing at an event centered around drinking isn't possible or likely.

The world is moving again and there isn't much left (if anything) in Ohio that isn't already open, so if you're not "back to living" the way you want I think your aggression toward me is misplaced, I'm not in control of your behavior.

I see the consequences of stuff like this everyday when my wife gets home from work dealing with covid patients and potential exposures. If people want to have a pinball show (or do anything), have at it, but representing it as safe just isn't accurate. You can certainly accept the risk, but call it what it is.

Like I said, hopefully it goes well and I look forward to attending in the future when we start to get this mess behind us all.

While I appreciate your adherence to masks, I'll take my wife's daily medical experience and first hand knowledge of the consequences of events like this. Enjoy the show and hope you stay safe.

Is there anything on the PinBrew site, FB, or here about what the actual safety protocols at the show are going to be? Masks required (will this actually be enforced)?, distance between games? sanitizer available? There is lots of discussion about things for sale, food, and beer, but none of the actual concerns people have seem to be addressed. I see alot of talk about "following CDC guidance", but all the guidance goes in direct contrast to the show occurring at all, especially with indoor food and beer. What safety measures are going to be in place and how will they be enforced?

Thanks, genuinely appreciate this. In all seriousness it might be worth highlighting this stuff on your page, etc. for people like myself who are on the fence about shows this early. I'm probably overly vocal (and annoying), but I assume I'm not the only one wondering what the climate at the show will be like.

I'm curious...what does this do ha?

You may have! Although I don't know what you look like so i didn't see you! The short version is I unexpectedly was able to get my vaccine a while ago and was over two weeks out from my second shot by the show so I feel good about getting back to things again.

Well if you want to read into it that way, I'm not sure what to tell you. Had I not been fully vaccinated and over two weeks out from my second one, I would not have gone. I did some volunteer work at East Technical High as part of the CMSD vaccination program and was able to receive my first shot in February and my second in March. My wife works in healthcare and has been vaccinated since the end of 2020, so those were two factors in my decision.

As far as "taking customers away", anyone that wasn't fully vaccinated and attending the show was taking a risk (that I wouldn't take), and I would still not have recommended they attend. Clearly that didn't resonate much with the people in this thread anyway.

I'm not going to spend pages nit picking the show because I don't need to start a whole argument about it, but overall it was pretty well run, but was disappointed in the lack of adherence to masks and social distancing by many of the vendors and breweries. I expected that is what would happen anyway though, hence my reasons for not attending in the first place if I wasn't vaccinated. The show attendees seemed to be pretty respectful of the guidelines, but of course relaxed as the night went on.

Had I not been vaccinated I would not have felt comfortable there, but clearly I'm the outlier here anyways and still think ANY event like this, not just pinball, is not a good idea until the vaccination rate is much higher for the health and well being of the public.

I'm not sure what's unclear or you think has changed. I don't know how may ways I can say I personally don't think having a show was a good idea. Also don't know why you (who doesn't know me) think I owe you (who I don't know) updates on my life because someone (who I also don't know) saw me at the show. If my stance is unclear feel free to reread what I wrote but my feelings on the safety of this haven't changed.

I mean, you are posting about me, so I'm not turning anything into me and you, you did that. I don't have all day to argue so I'll try to summarize: large public gatherings = bad idea. Being vaccinated = greatly minimized risk. Attending a large public event of any kind unvaccinated = bad idea.

If you want to discuss more pm me and we can chat when I have time.

Yeah see, you're the exact type of covid denier/conspiracy theorist I was worried about attending if I wasn't fully vaccinated. I appreciate you trying to prove my point for me.

Off topic: I can't tell if this is a serious question. The sarcastic "cheating death" comment, which I'm sure is hilarious to all the people that know someone that has died? The "lockdowns don't work" comment when the US has never actually locked down, and the countries that have are back living a normal life? The "fauci discipline" comment, which grammatical concerns aside, implies that the nations (and likely worlds expert) on this and many other diseases is not to be trusted? Aside from those, nothing, I guess.

On topic: very much looking forward to the next show and not having to worry or argue about any of this shit and just play some games and have a drama free beer.