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New Predator Info Thread

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#2151 10 years ago
Quoted from Jetzxi:

DMD animations look much crisper than before.

It's not the "leaps and bounds" difference we were looking for, but it is definitely a solid improvement. With a little tweaking and reworking, I'm sure we can get a lot out of it.

Quoted from flashburn:

any worries about the ramp cracking where the ball drops down from it?

Many have expressed concern with this from the very start, but we haven't seen anything at all to make us believe that this will happen. That being said, we aren't going to take a blind risk on it, so there will likely be some sort of addition to the ramp to prevent it from becoming a potential issue.

#2152 10 years ago

You could have a cutout underneath the ramp and put one of those little blue bumpers in it's spot to deaden the fall. The balls travelling down the ramp probably wouldn't be affected by it since they'll be travelling quickly?

#2153 10 years ago

The only thing I would really like to see tweaked in the right kickout. Is the plan for it to eject straight into the pops? It seems that it just falls short.

#2154 10 years ago

Looking Good! On behalf of Blondie, thanks for sneaking the Pony easter egg in!

#2155 10 years ago
Quoted from SkitBPinball:

Yep again. Predator dialing in a command on his gauntlet is still going to be used for the general mystery award animation, but of course it will be "prettied up" before we're done.

Oh awesome. Ha. I was trying to think what to do there and I didn't come up with that. It's perfect! Good job.

#2156 10 years ago

So happy you guys tweaked the rt ramp a little more. That ramp was impossible to make at Allentown last year. By the way will predator be at Allentown this year?

#2157 10 years ago
Quoted from SkitBPinball:

In short, yes. We're working on coming up with something a little different for that, as well as ways to indicate how many party members you've eliminated towards Killing Spree.

instant info?

#2158 10 years ago

It's looking awesome guys. UV definitely looks great. Love the fact that a lot of it can be backhanded. I really appreciate that in a game. A ton of questions I would love to ask, but would like to figure out a lot of the nuances myself.

Few questions. On behalf of a lot of guys on here, any talk about the jackpot noise?

On behalf of myself, it was said (way before) that hitting the Hunt mode on a specific side would start the hunt on that side. I noticed you were trying to shoot left but the hunt kept starting on the right. I figured you would just start it with the left side button, instead of the right one. Is the hunt arrow random now, gradually jumping around, or were you moving it with the buttons?

On behalf of the world...Punisher cards? Did I see that right? Hint Hint?

#2159 10 years ago

how does the post blocker work? If you hold either button will it lower post?

#2160 10 years ago
Quoted from OLDPINGUY:

On behalf of Blondie, thanks for sneaking the Pony easter egg in!

What?!? I missed my pony? Dang, have to go rewatch the video now.

#2161 10 years ago

Thanks for the update guys! Some really nice progress since the last update. Thanks also for showing the tech stuff. The new DMD is looking much better and animations are getting much smoother. I am guessing things look even better in person as a camera tends to change it all.

I think at this point I will be most excited to see the next iteration for the ramps.

The biggest thing I am really thinking at this point is Predator will be INTENSE. I love that about this game. The feel of play is going to be extremely unique.

#2162 10 years ago

Thanks for the video guys! UV lighting looks cool. Will there be any flasher lamps located between the pops? the upper playfield still seems pretty dark- is there still some sort of lighting going up there? I think it would be cool to have a flasher under each ramp. Flasher lighting would be an awesome complement to machine gun sounds.

#2163 10 years ago

Thanks for the update! DMD is way better than when I saw it at Expo! UV light looks great!
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#2164 10 years ago

Looks great. Are those targets in front of the flippers further back than the game at Allentown? (still not crazy about them )
Everything looks like it's really coming together! Thanks for the peek!

#2165 10 years ago

The pop bumpers look really strong . . . love the back hand shots this machine features. Looks like you guys are really making great headway.

Question: how satisfied are you guys with the current state of the music score? Is it finished? Still being tweaked? Are all scores implemented with the various modes?

Keep up the great work; very happy to be in this project and in on an adult themed game!

#2166 10 years ago

I'm not sweating the ramps any more, I can see now that this is a work in progress.

I think I (and maybe others) were thrown off with the talk about the game shipping before xmas, so my eye was more critical towards things like the ramps. I think it's clear that the game still has a ways to go and these things will be tuned and refined.

Thanks for keeping us updated. I think even if the game is several months away from completion, regular updates will keep us happy and satisfied.

#2167 10 years ago

Kevin:

Thanks for the video. I liked the levity of the previous ones, but clearly as this is coming closer, it seems you and Aaron have so much more content to share that there is little need to fill in with fluff. Serious progress, serious project. SKIT-B growing up!!! Not just kids in the basement any longer...........

Love the control of the orbit with the post, and the skill shot is innovative and will getting progressively more difficult.

Really like the lower right ball lock and it being back-handable from the right flipper. Is is makeable from the left flipper as well?

Dan

#2168 10 years ago
Quoted from riggy469:

The only thing I would really like to see tweaked in the right kickout. Is the plan for it to eject straight into the pops?

Yes, that is the plan. It's supposed to kind of mirror the left eject in that regard.

Quoted from dannunz:

will Predator be at Allentown this year?

Probably. We had a great time last year and everybody was super nice and helpful. Can't wait to go back, it's definitely a different kind of show out there.

It'll be in there, too, but we're going to need something a little more "on the fly" to let players know how many hunts they have left and what characters remain for Killing Spree.

Quoted from playboywillis:

hitting the Hunt mode on a specific side would start the hunt on that side. I noticed you were trying to shoot left but the hunt kept starting on the right. I figured you would just start it with the left side button, instead of the right one. Is the hunt arrow random now, gradually jumping around, or were you moving it with the buttons?

No, it still works the same way as before (left button picks a shot for the left ramp/orbit and right button picks a shot for the right ramp/orbit). What you were seeing when it was roaming around was while I was in the Tracking mode. During that mode you use the hunt buttons to actively move the lit shot to the left or to the right.

Quoted from playboywillis:

any talk about the jackpot noise?

I really like the Jackpot animation / sounds, but I've heard a few say they didn't like it, so I guess we'll just put it to a vote :-/

Quoted from playboywillis:

Punisher cards? Did I see that right? Hint Hint?

Heheh, not quite. The logo we use for our Michigan Pinbrawl tournament looks very much like the Punisher logo. It's a cool little logo and while it was made to mimic the Punisher, it's no hint, it's really just shameless promotion for our local pinball community

Quoted from rai:

how does the post blocker work? If you hold either button will it lower post?

Holding the flipper you made the shot with will drop the post. As you can see in the video, the post only stays down for a fraction of a second, meaning you need to make a clean shot on the orbit for it to go all the way around. It's a fairly simple mechanic, but it's very satisfying when it's done for some reason.

Quoted from Whysnow:

Thanks also for showing the tech stuff.

No problem I'm a pretty tech-oriented guy, and I know how excited I get about stuff like that, so I was just hoping others out there would be as excited as I am.

Quoted from Whysnow:

I am guessing things look even better in person as a camera tends to change it all.

Yes, it very much does. Can't wait for you guys to see the game in person.

Quoted from Whysnow:

The biggest thing I am really thinking at this point is Predator will be INTENSE. I love that about this game. The feel of play is going to be extremely unique.

The game has gone through a lot of changes in the last year and I couldn't be happier with the result. Predator has become a pretty unique experience in which never seems to be the same for any two people.

Quoted from denmark71:

Will there be any flasher lamps located between the pops? Flasher lighting would be an awesome complement to machine gun sounds.

Yep, the flashers are going in this weekend and they all tie in to the pops / slings / kickouts.

Quoted from denmark71:

the upper playfield still seems pretty dark- is there still some sort of lighting going up there?

Yeah the new overhead lighting stuff should be here in time for the next video. I think you'll really appreciate what we have planned for it.

Quoted from vster23:

DMD is way better than when I saw it at Expo!

The new DMD is definitely an improvement. After we tweak a few more things I'm sure it will become the monstrous improvement we were looking for.

Quoted from spfxted:

Are those targets in front of the flippers further back than the game at Allentown?

Good eye. They are back about 2~3 inches from the proto that was in PA.

Quoted from TigerLaw:

The pop bumpers look really strong . . .

They are. All the pops have 800 coils in them. Gives a pretty intense feeling of "oh sh*t, be ready for it" when the ball goes in there.

Quoted from TigerLaw:

how satisfied are you guys with the current state of the music score?

Pretty satisfied

Quoted from TigerLaw:

Is it finished?

The music selection is finished, but the implementation is still a bit buggy.

Quoted from TigerLaw:

Still being tweaked?

Yeah, the function that handles the musical changes is still in need of some adjustments. In the video I managed to grab that super jackpot (booya!) right before losing the multiball. When the super is achieved, the music changes to Long Tall Sally and is supposed to stay playing after the multiball has ended. It was actually a bug in the software that made it stop as soon as the multiball was over. Big sadface there

Quoted from TigerLaw:

Are all scores implemented with the various modes?

Yep, all modes and multiballs have their own independent music track now. Really adds an overall depth to the feel of the game, which I'm sure will be heightened once the mode background animations are done and implemented.

Quoted from frolic:

I think I (and maybe others) were thrown off with the talk about the game shipping before xmas, so my eye was more critical

This is too true. We have target dates set, but we're keeping a better attitude about scheduling now than we were in the earlier stages. We still push pretty hard because, honestly, we want this game done just as bad as you all do, but shooting for overly-ambitious milestone dates is not the way to get things done.

Quoted from MrWizzo:

Really like the lower right ball lock and it being back-handable from the right flipper. Is is makeable from the left flipper as well?

It's definitely makeable from the left (more so than the right, honestly, but the half-cradle backhand is so sexy). It's very low, though; like unnaturally low. It's a pretty unique shot, so it's hard to compare to anything else that's out there, but I can tell you it feels lower than shooting straight into the grave shot on an Addams Family, if that gives you an idea. Once you get used to the shot, though, it's pretty clean.

#2169 10 years ago

If the game is even half as good as your ability and patience to answer questions, we have nothing to worry about about. Thanks.

#2170 10 years ago

Wow, man. You answered every single question everybody asked and then some. I'm so impressed with the game and how everything is handled by the team.

Quoted from SkitBPinball:

I really like the Jackpot animation / sounds, but I've heard a few say they didn't like it, so I guess we'll just put it to a vote :-/
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I only brought it up because there was a lot of talk about it a while back. I don't mind the jackpot noise, I'm guessing it gets crazy when you get into the actual game. Speaking of though, I noticed the, for lack of a better word, generic sounding glass break after the Super before Long Tall Sally. May, I suggest an explosion or maybe something a little bit more epic? Sorry, one man's opinion.

And while I was thinknig about noise, are there any chopper noises in there? I was surprised you guys went with the plane flyby noise when Arnold's got the binocs instead a chopper flyby noise.

Let me reiterate again, this is just me being hyped and talking, I love what you guys are doing. Pumped every moment.

#2171 10 years ago

I think this one is my favourite video, the close-ups and demonstration helped to show a lot of stuff that I didn't really pick up from the previous examples, very frank and open.

#2172 10 years ago

Great update again. Love being kept in the loop as to all the tweaks and changes. Makes the waiting for completion a lot less stressful. I'd far rather know what's going on that the job to be rushed.

Bit of an aside but my son was in hysterics when your shirt turned up. Appears that the font you used on the front makes the K in Skit-B look like a h to those not in the know. Wrote it off as a 9 Yr old's interpretation until my wife pointed out the same thing 5 mins later - grrr......

#2173 10 years ago

Thanks for the update! Getting really excited!

#2174 10 years ago

Great video this time around. The UV already looks awesome. I personally really like the jackpot sequence. It kind of reminds me of the jackpot on TZ. One concern of mine, on the tech front, is the way the power driver boards are machine built. It looks like, aside from the transistors, if one little part on their failed you would have to buy a new board. This could be problematic years from now if those boards are no longer manufactured. Keep up the awesome work!

On a side note, still no T-shirt for me.

#2175 10 years ago
Quoted from Betelgeuse:

I personally really like the jackpot sequence.

Same here, I dig the jackpot sound.

#2176 10 years ago

Is the jackpot noise still the "wanh wanh wanh" deal? If so, yeah, I don't like it much. Doesn't sound gritty, or edgy, or jungley, or unique... It sounds like a jackpot for a carwash themed machine or ice cream parlor something.

It stands out a whole lot for me because it's the only sound I don't like / seems so out of place. Dude's are screaming, getting disembowled, miniguns going off, shit blowing up and then... "wanh wanh wanh"!

Haha. I don't know. Maybe it's just me.

#2177 10 years ago
Quoted from navajas:

Maybe it's just me.

I'll live with it if it doesn't change but I agree with you.

#2178 10 years ago

I'm happy with the jackpot sound the way it is, not a fan of the Stern style YELL JACKPOT ALL THE TIME IN YOUR FACE approach.

#2179 10 years ago

Oh yeah. That was a nice touch when Aaron bumped the machine and the lights turned off, then when they turned back on Arnold says, "They couldn't see me."

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#2180 10 years ago

Add me to the "not a fan" list for the Jackpot sound.

#2182 10 years ago

The new video is great. I am looking forward to seeing the artwork and the toys from Matt.

#2183 10 years ago

Nice hoodie Kevin, when can I order one or two? And I can't wait for that T shirt to arrive.

Chris #4

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#2184 10 years ago

Dear Skit B-

I appreciate all the answers to questions, the honest replies about issues, and listening to our feedback. And while responding to feedback is great, please don't let all our opinions, want lists, and gripes change you from making the pin that YOU want to make. No pinball machine is ever going to make 100% of the people happy, especially when you've got 250 people drooling over just getting it. Listen to viable concerns, and otherwise do what YOU envision for the machine. You've already gone above and beyond what Stern and JJP have done as far as pleasing their customers, and with you getting down to the 'much-closer-to-finished' version, I believe you need to do your thing your way. If the main dissonance the collective owner group currently has is what sound it makes for a jackpot, I think you are light-years ahead of other companies in customer satisfaction.

Sincerely yours-

Blondie, #207

PS-

#2185 10 years ago

Anyone able to confirm if SkitB will be making it to the Ohio show next month?

#2186 10 years ago
Quoted from blondetall:

Dear Skit B-
I appreciate all the answers to questions, the honest replies about issues, and listening to our feedback. And while responding to feedback is great, please don't let all our opinions, want lists, and gripes change you from making the pin that YOU want to make. No pinball machine is ever going to make 100% of the people happy, especially when you've got 250 people drooling over just getting it. Listen to viable concerns, and otherwise do what YOU envision for the machine. You've already gone above and beyond what Stern and JJP have done as far as pleasing their customers, and with you getting down to the 'much-closer-to-finished' version, I believe you need to do your thing your way. If the main dissonance the collective owner group currently has is what sound it makes for a jackpot, I think you are light-years ahead of other companies in customer satisfaction.
Sincerely yours-
Blondie, #207
PS- » YouTube video

This deserves quoting just because it is so spot on with how I also feel. Also, love the video Blondie

#2187 10 years ago

Dear Skit-B,

Appreciate the video... and the feedback to questions and comments. Much appreciated and - to my knowledge - unique among Pinball manufacturers, big or small. I must get this Hoodie too... or at least a T-shirt.

By the way, any update on production schedule ? (especially for the poor souls like me who joined relatively late and are in the last 1/3). Any solution for overseas delivery ? Did a few people on the waiting list joined the adventure due to dropoffs ?

#2188 10 years ago

I think Predator pinball's my favorite tv show

#2189 10 years ago
Quoted from blondetall:

Dear Skit B-
I appreciate all the answers to questions, the honest replies about issues, and listening to our feedback. And while responding to feedback is great, please don't let all our opinions, want lists, and gripes change you from making the pin that YOU want to make. No pinball machine is ever going to make 100% of the people happy, especially when you've got 250 people drooling over just getting it. Listen to viable concerns, and otherwise do what YOU envision for the machine. You've already gone above and beyond what Stern and JJP have done as far as pleasing their customers, and with you getting down to the 'much-closer-to-finished' version, I believe you need to do your thing your way. If the main dissonance the collective owner group currently has is what sound it makes for a jackpot, I think you are light-years ahead of other companies in customer satisfaction.
Sincerely yours-
Blondie, #207
PS- » YouTube video

Hey Blondie, you can add me as a fan. Well spoken.

Kim

#2190 10 years ago
Quoted from playboywillis:

I think Predator pinball's my favorite tv show

I know, this is way better than Dance Moms!

#2191 10 years ago

Great update! Thanks for showing us some of the technology that will be running the machine it was cool to get a look at what you have planned for it. How you all have gone about handling the comments and building your first machine has been very impressive. Thanks for keeping us all in the loop over here at Pinside it is much appreciated Skit-B!

#2192 10 years ago

Are we realistically looking at around Christmas time?

#2193 10 years ago

What?!? I missed my pony? Dang, have to go rewatch the video now.

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#2194 10 years ago
Quoted from spfxted:

Are we realistically looking at around Christmas time?

Last I remember, they wanted to START shipping by the end of spring. That always seemed a little ambitious for me though. Id bet assembly will probably take around a 8-9 months to make and ship these out one they start.

#2195 10 years ago

Jonnyo, I'm not saying I'm a horse-thief or anything, but I do own a saddle, spurs, lasso, and a cowgirl hat... and I know how to use them.

Seriously though, was there really a pony in that video??

#2196 10 years ago
Quoted from blondetall:

Seriously though, was there really a pony in that video??

Not that I'm aware of. Maybe next video

#2197 10 years ago

Great update. The ball hesitates a little on the right ramp at the sharp corner. Im sure that will be rounded in the final ramps. Great work guys. # 179

#2198 10 years ago

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#2199 10 years ago
Quoted from SkitBPinball:

Not that I'm aware of. Maybe next video

Yay! Although it looks like I am going to have to mud wrestle jonnyo for it.

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