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New pinball skills tutorial videos

By ABE_FLIPS

7 months ago


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    #51 3 months ago

    I was practicing my slap saves like in your video @ 1:34.. but when I came out of the washroom, I sure got some odd looks.

    #52 3 months ago

    Ooh boy

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    #53 41 days ago

    Hey there!

    #54 41 days ago

    Another great video. So how long did it take to get so many great shots of live catching?

    #55 41 days ago

    The long part is the research, scrip writing, audio recording and editing... oh and i have to make all pinball sounds in post production since the camera i use does not record audio in the high FPS mode. Recording pinball only took about 3 hours i think, with some pre-recorded shots already existing.
    But the LOTR Saurons eye shot really took some time to get right. Unfortunately it somehow came out in low res with the mp4 compression

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    #56 32 days ago

    New Channel trailer, with a sneak peak for the upcoming nudging video!

    #57 32 days ago

    This is the topic that I have been waiting for. Can’t wait to see the full lesson.
    Thanks for all of your great work on these

    #58 32 days ago

    These videos are extremely well done.
    The infusion of humor is noteworthy as well.
    Nice job. I'll subscribe for sure.
    I'll be looking for some lengthy game play videos in the future.
    r/
    Mike

    #59 32 days ago

    great vids Abe.

    #60 32 days ago

    thanks, I`ve been working my ass off today again for the tutorials, the next video will be ready soon!
    I also try to stream on twitch from time to time like today
    https://www.twitch.tv/abe_flips

    cheers

    #61 31 days ago

    Thanks for stoppin by, I really enjoed it. Lets hope I dont get DMCAd.
    In the future I will also upload the best games on youtube.
    Here ist the first one, over 40 min for one game nearly as bad as LOTR

    #62 30 days ago
    Quoted from ABE_FLIPS:

    thanks, I`ve been working my ass off today again for the tutorials, the next video will be ready soon!
    I also try to stream on twitch from time to time like today
    https://www.twitch.tv/abe_flips
    cheers

    Enjoying your instructional videos,thank you!

    Took a peek at the mando gameplay, imho it would be better to have the play field take up more of the screen and have the other
    camera view from low flipper view instead of on the player unless she is a topless babe!
    Also take out the screen comments and it would be perfect!

    #64 30 days ago
    Quoted from pinballjj:

    Enjoying your instructional videos,thank you!
    Took a peek at the mando gameplay, imho it would be better to have the play field take up more of the screen and have the other
    camera view from low flipper view instead of on the player unless she is a topless babe!
    Also take out the screen comments and it would be perfect!

    Thanks for the input. I would need to buy a gopro and probably a new laptop for the additional camera. So for now I will stick to the oldschool deadflip layout and put my money and energy in the tutorials. However, if streaming is growing on me I may invest in some more equipment.

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    #65 29 days ago
    Quoted from ABE_FLIPS:

    Here is the latest tutorial, please let me know how you like it:
    cheers

    Your tutorials are very flashy and well-produced. I ask though, can you at least use the standard terminology instead of this made up stuff?

    Like the Micro-flip which is really a tap pass or tap flip.

    Or the “ski-pass” which is literally just a dead bounce.

    Papa covered them all in this old series: https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-WQLGFMr97DnxeE1Rmi-wAwa-Vm7D-7i

    It’s cool to cover the basics every couple years, as several have done, but let’s not keep using different language to further confuse players.
    It’s bad enough that I keep hearing people talk about “tilting the paddles” and “tilting the table” when they mean any action or nudging. That’s thanks to Gravity Falls which had a pinball episode

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    #66 29 days ago
    Quoted from Isochronic_Frost:

    ... at least use the standard terminology instead of this made up stuff?

    Since these tutorials are a remake of the "Pinball 101" DVD please stick with the common terminology that we and PAPA use. Presenting terminology consistent with what the "pro" players use was one of the goals of our videos.
    Otherwise keep up the good work!

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    #67 29 days ago
    Quoted from L8vid:

    Since these tutorials are a remake of the "Pinball 101" DVD please stick with the common terminology that we and PAPA use. Presenting terminology consistent with what the "pro" players use was one of the goals of our videos.
    Otherwise keep up the good work!

    Yes, that’s what I was referring to. There’s no mention of “micro” or “ski” on any of them.
    I’ve never seen the Pinball 101 DVD’s when did they come out? I love the Papa tutorials though. I will miss them greatly

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    #68 28 days ago
    Quoted from Isochronic_Frost:

    ...Pinball 101 DVD’s when did they come out?

    Back in '09!


    #69 28 days ago

    Are “standard pinball terminologies” an international thing now?
    I guess someone should tell the French so they can stop calling it “Flipper”.

    #70 28 days ago
    Quoted from Coindork:

    Are “standard pinball terminologies” an international thing now?
    I guess someone should tell the French so they can stop calling it “Flipper”.

    I was thinking this, terms may be different in his neck of the woods. Doesn't make them wrong

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    #71 28 days ago

    I dont care what you call these abe, I thought your videos are great.

    Use whatever terms you like and use where you play pinball. I am ok with this.

    Also Tap pass sucks, and micro flip is cooler.

    He is nice enough to make the videos in English. Keep going.

    Thanks Abe

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    #72 28 days ago

    Thanks for the feedback as always I appreciate it!

    To give you guys a little insight:
    I know its annoying to hear things differenty- thats language.
    There are different opinions on terminology from professional players depending on where they live.
    I did my best and discussed that on the tiltforums, also with members from PAPA and the best players around the world.
    If you want to take part on the discussion, please do so:
    http://tiltforums.com/t/new-pinball-skills-tutorial-videos-looking-for-feedback-from-high-level-players/6971/95

    Truth is there is no standard. Being aware of this, I did my best and included most common names also in the Titels during the videos. The term micro flip and ski pass is also used by Jack Danger, so you maybe want to talk to him about it? He has THE biggest impact on the community.

    Im working on those tutorials about 5 hours a day, especially because I know Im not experienced and have very high standards - all for free, enjoy.
    Next week I am meeting with one of the top 10 world players to do my research on nudging, because I wan't it to be great.

    cheers

    #73 28 days ago
    Quoted from ABE_FLIPS:

    Thanks for the feedback as always I appreciate it!
    To give you guys a little insight:
    I know its annoying to hear things differenty- thats language.
    There are different opinions on terminology from professional players depending on where they live.
    I did my best and discussed that on the tiltforums, also with members from PAPA and the best players around the world.
    If you want to take part on the discussion, please do so:
    http://tiltforums.com/t/new-pinball-skills-tutorial-videos-looking-for-feedback-from-high-level-players/6971/95
    Truth is there is no standard. Being aware of this, I did my best and included most common names also in the Titels during the videos. The term micro flip and ski pass is also used by Jack Danger, so you maybe want to talk to him about it? He has THE biggest impact on the community.
    Im working on those tutorials about 5 hours a day, especially because I know Im not experienced and have very high standards - all for free, enjoy.
    Next week I am meeting with one of the top 10 world players to do my research on nudging, because I wan't it to be great.
    cheers

    Keep them coming man.
    I often refer to "drained balls" as "god damnit" and no one has corrected me yet.

    #74 28 days ago

    I've subscribed, Abe. Great stuff! It's quick and concise!
    Looking forward to more videos.
    P.S. Great editing. Very nicely done.

    #75 27 days ago
    Quoted from Isochronic_Frost:

    Or the “ski-pass” which is literally just a dead bounce.

    How so?

    #76 27 days ago

    I thought the same. I know the other terms like pass over, flipper pass, inlane transfer, ski jump and the evil knievel, also discussed on the tiltforums and mentioned in the video.
    But I never heard of a dead bounce in this regard

    #77 27 days ago
    Quoted from Isochronic_Frost:

    Or the “ski-pass” which is literally just a dead bounce.

    Ski pass is used by everyone including the czars over at PAPA.

    #78 27 days ago

    These are great, and funny! Keep up the good work.

    #79 27 days ago

    Excellent videos,I now use the micro flip to set up a backhand shot for the Mystery scoop in Metallica ! Very satisfying when it works

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    #80 27 days ago

    Wow, those were bad

    #81 27 days ago
    Quoted from ralphs007:

    Excellent videos,I now use the micro flip to set up a backhand shot for the Mystery scoop in Metallica ! Very satisfying when it works

    That has been my favorite tip so far from these fantastic videos, completely changed my strategy on stern JP. Control room/C is so much easier now.

    #82 27 days ago

    Great videos!!

    #83 27 days ago

    Great vids! They've helped me quite a bit and my games are improving, thanks!

    #84 27 days ago
    Quoted from Coindork:

    Keep them coming man.
    I often refer to "drained balls" as "god damnit" and no one has corrected me yet.

    Is "God damnit" not the correct terminology?... Damn I've been wrong this whole time.

    #85 26 days ago

    Amazing videos. Thank you

    #86 24 days ago
    Quoted from Oleboy:

    That has been my favorite tip so far from these fantastic videos, completely changed my strategy on stern JP. Control room/C is so much easier now.

    This tip is HUGE! I just beat my best score on Metallica thanks to the micro flip,backhand shot!
    I have a JP coming this December,so I should be ready for the control room.

    #87 24 days ago
    Quoted from ralphs007:

    This tip is HUGE! I just beat my best score on Metallica thanks to the micro flip,backhand shot!
    I have a JP coming this December,so I should be ready for the control room.

    Glad to hear, the more you practice the more precise you will be. The timing of the flip also determines how hard you shoot the ball up, quite complex.
    If you are mindful you even can sneak in back hand shots during standard gameplay from rolling balls, not set up from micro flips... those are really satisfying when pulled off well.

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    #88 24 days ago
    Quoted from chuckwurt:

    Ski pass is used by everyone including the czars over at PAPA.

    Can you include a link? Because I browsed the PAPA list of terms and it’s not on there.

    Watch the video maybe? The flipper is raised, the ball hits the rubber and then you immediately drop it so the initial bounce continues. The ball is not traveling up the flipper over to the opposite one, which would just be an inlane transfer.

    Quoted from ABE_FLIPS:

    Thanks for the feedback as always I appreciate it!
    To give you guys a little insight:
    I know its annoying to hear things differenty- thats language.
    There are different opinions on terminology from professional players depending on where they live.
    I did my best and discussed that on the tiltforums, also with members from PAPA and the best players around the world.
    If you want to take part on the discussion, please do so:
    http://tiltforums.com/t/new-pinball-skills-tutorial-videos-looking-for-feedback-from-high-level-players/6971/95
    Truth is there is no standard. Being aware of this, I did my best and included most common names also in the Titels during the videos. The term micro flip and ski pass is also used by Jack Danger, so you maybe want to talk to him about it? He has THE biggest impact on the community.
    Im working on those tutorials about 5 hours a day, especially because I know Im not experienced and have very high standards - all for free, enjoy.
    Next week I am meeting with one of the top 10 world players to do my research on nudging, because I wan't it to be great.
    cheers

    I appreciate you responding to my critiques in a calm manner. It’s refreshing, unlike the extreme negativity from others.

    I’ve watched Jack since he started on Twitch, and never heard him say Ski-pass. I’ve heard him say Micro-Flip and chatted back and forth on it, and left it preference. When did he start using ski-pass? Even searching pinside, it sounds like a relatively new term, within the past couple years.

    Also, I understand the French/English thing going on. Some commenters seem to forget your videos are in English! I have worked with many French pinheads, and they call them flippers because the translation from English to French for “pinball” would make no sense. Sometimes language relies on existing words instead of making one up if it doesn’t make sense.

    It’s like Ramen noodles in English. Ramen IS LITERALLY A NOODLE. We don’t say Spaghetti noodle!
    Anyway, my point still stands.
    Great work on the series ABE_FLIPS
    I look forward to the nudging videos.

    #89 24 days ago
    Quoted from ABE_FLIPS:

    Glad to hear, the more you practice the more precise you will be. The timing of the flip also determines how hard you shoot the ball up, quite complex.
    If you are mindful you even can sneak in back hand shots during standard gameplay from rolling balls, not set up from micro flips... those are really satisfying when pulled off well.

    .

    #90 24 days ago
    Quoted from Isochronic_Frost:

    Can you include a link? Because I browsed the PAPA list of terms and it’s not on there.

    Watch the video maybe? The flipper is raised, the ball hits the rubber and then you immediately drop it so the initial bounce continues. The ball is not traveling up the flipper over to the opposite one, which would just be an inlane transfer.

    I appreciate you responding to my critiques in a calm manner. It’s refreshing, unlike the extreme negativity from others.
    I’ve watched Jack since he started on Twitch, and never heard him say Ski-pass. I’ve heard him say Micro-Flip and chatted back and forth on it, and left it preference. When did he start using ski-pass? Even searching pinside, it sounds like a relatively new term, within the past couple years.
    Also, I understand the French/English thing going on. Some commenters seem to forget your videos are in English! I have worked with many French pinheads, and they call them flippers because the translation from English to French for “pinball” would make no sense. Sometimes language relies on existing words instead of making one up if it doesn’t make sense.
    It’s like Ramen noodles in English. Ramen IS LITERALLY A NOODLE. We don’t say Spaghetti noodle!
    Anyway, my point still stands.
    Great work on the series ABE_FLIPS
    I look forward to the nudging videos.

    Pinball machines are called Flippers pretty much everywhere else in the world except for USA. I only realized flippers were actually called pinball as of 2020.

    Same argument for Anana vs pineapple. The world knows what Anana is, except for USA. lol. Not even autocorrect knows what Anana is, hence the capital in Anana I am too lazy to correct the autocorrect. lol

    #91 24 days ago
    Quoted from Isochronic_Frost:

    Can you include a link? Because I browsed the PAPA list of terms and it’s not on there.

    Watch the video maybe? The flipper is raised, the ball hits the rubber and then you immediately drop it so the initial bounce continues. The ball is not traveling up the flipper over to the opposite one, which would just be an inlane transfer.

    I appreciate you responding to my critiques in a calm manner. It’s refreshing, unlike the extreme negativity from others.
    I’ve watched Jack since he started on Twitch, and never heard him say Ski-pass. I’ve heard him say Micro-Flip and chatted back and forth on it, and left it preference. When did he start using ski-pass? Even searching pinside, it sounds like a relatively new term, within the past couple years.
    Also, I understand the French/English thing going on. Some commenters seem to forget your videos are in English! I have worked with many French pinheads, and they call them flippers because the translation from English to French for “pinball” would make no sense. Sometimes language relies on existing words instead of making one up if it doesn’t make sense.
    It’s like Ramen noodles in English. Ramen IS LITERALLY A NOODLE. We don’t say Spaghetti noodle!
    Anyway, my point still stands.
    Great work on the series ABE_FLIPS
    I look forward to the nudging videos.

    Well, when I read your first comment I can understand why people would criticize.
    And what you describe as "extreme negativity" was 90% POSITIVE support from people appreciate the videos and see the work behind it. How more positive can you be than supporting what you like instead of ranting about your rash comment, which I think is disproved. People keep saying pinside is such a negative place, but it was just you and L8vid being negative in this case, so dont turn around the story here.
    Anyway, lets burry the hatchet stay positve again, its not worth it. And as I said, I really can understand how disturbing differnt terminology can be.

    By the way, this is no remake of pinball 101 or the PAPA tutorials. This is my own interpretation of pinball.

    If you want to know my resources, they are
    tiltforums.com
    Jack Danger
    Karl DeAngelo
    Keith Elwin with "Pinball 101 DVD"
    Robert Polin and Michael Rain with the "Pinbal Wizardy" book
    and Robert Sutter

    Regarding the ski pass, I heard Jack saying it live on two of his streams, but not too often.
    Also the tiltforum members where discordant, thats why I included all the other names for it in the video, just watch it again.
    And regarding the dead bounce... I disagree

    #92 24 days ago
    Quoted from Isochronic_Frost:

    Can you include a link? Because I browsed the PAPA list of terms and it’s not on there.

    No links to provide sorry. It’s a term I’ve learned over the years by competing a ton.

    But really. Why does it matter at all what he calls them? He did a ton of research before making any videos to ensure terminology made sense.

    #93 24 days ago

    These are extremely well made and enjoyable to watch even if you know how to do this stuff. Nice job!

    Also, there's nothing in the ski pass video that even resembles a dead bounce.

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    #94 23 days ago
    Quoted from Isochronic_Frost:

    Watch the video maybe? The flipper is raised, the ball hits the rubber and then you immediately drop it so the initial bounce continues. The ball is not traveling up the flipper over to the opposite one, which would just be an inlane transfer.

    So, by definition, the flipper is not "dead" then, right?

    To me a "ski jump" and an "inlane transfer" are the same thing. Any dropping of the flipper when the ball gets to the tip or nudging of the machine are just additional aspects of the move for when the ball doesn't have sufficient momentum. In Abe's video, he calls it a "Ski Pass AKA Ski Jump, Flipper Pass, Inlane Transfer, or The Evil Knievel" so I feel like he really covers his bases with the terminology. Speaking of which, I should really work on calling it an "Inlane Transfer" more reflexively, I hate the term "Ski Jump/Pass" myself, but I don't think that means it isn't a "valid" term for it though.

    FYI, the first instance in his video looks like this: this screenshot is the frame before his flipper drops. If you really want to break these moves down into sub categories, I suppose you could call it something like a "Live Bounce" though that makes it sound more like a variation of a dead bounce. I still think it is much more in line with an "inlane transfer" because it is executed the same way, does the same thing and results the same, this is why I would classify them the same. Basically, I don't think nudging the machine to make the ball bounce fundamentally alters from an "inlane transfer" to a distinct, new move.

    For the record, I wasn't trying to be a jerk with my initial "how so?" comment, I was legitimately curious about your perspective, I probably would have come off more sincere with a full sentence though.

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    #95 23 days ago

    I know I said it already but how did I not know of the microflip and the ski-pass. Definitely because I’m a noob but man what a game changer.

    #96 23 days ago

    You're a class act Abe.
    Looking forward to seeing what you put out next.

    #97 23 days ago
    Quoted from shaub:

    So, by definition, the flipper is not "dead" then, right?
    To me a "ski jump" and an "inlane transfer" are the same thing. Any dropping of the flipper when the ball gets to the tip or nudging of the machine are just additional aspects of the move for when the ball doesn't have sufficient momentum. In Abe's video, he calls it a "Ski Pass AKA Ski Jump, Flipper Pass, Inlane Transfer, or The Evil Knievel" so I feel like he really covers his bases with the terminology. Speaking of which, I should really work on calling it an "Inlane Transfer" more reflexively, I hate the term "Ski Jump/Pass" myself, but I don't think that means it isn't a "valid" term for it though.
    FYI, the first instance in his video looks like this: this screenshot is the frame before his flipper drops. If you really want to break these moves down into sub categories, I suppose you could call it something like a "Live Bounce" though that makes it sound more like a variation of a dead bounce. I still think it is much more in line with an "inlane transfer" because it is executed the same way, does the same thing and results the same, this is why I would classify them the same. Basically, I don't think nudging the machine to make the ball bounce fundamentally alters from an "inlane transfer" to a distinct, new move.
    For the record, I wasn't trying to be a jerk with my initial "how so?" comment, I was legitimately curious about your perspective, I probably would have come off more sincere with a full sentence though.
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    A dead bounce means the ball is not put in motion by mechanical “active” action. When the ball hits a rubber and bounces purely due to the properties of the rubber, it’s considered a dead bounce.
    Example being woodrail games with passive bumpers, they have rubber on them and the ball strikes them and rebounds off them.

    Look at his videos. As the flipper hits the base of the flipper, it bounces off that rubber, and if you don’t drop the flipper, it would strike that flipper and not bounce all the way over. It does not roll up the flipper and over to the other side. If you did not flip and the ball bounces off the flipper and rebounds from the rubber, that’s a dead bounce. Same thing here except the position of the flipper is raised, merely to catch the bottom rubber, the flipper itself is not actively flipping the ball to the other side, such as a tap pass.

    The dead in “dead bounce” doesn’t refer to a dead flipper, it refers to the rubber itself being the source of the passive bounce.

    #98 23 days ago
    Quoted from Isochronic_Frost:

    The dead in “dead bounce” doesn’t refer to a dead flipper

    Yes it does. There’s only one way to do a dead bounce. That’s with a flipper at rest.

    #99 23 days ago
    Quoted from chuckwurt:

    Yes it does. There’s only one way to do a dead bounce. That’s with a flipper at rest.

    In a dead bounce you’re not actively hitting the ball with the flipper, and in the bounce pass shown, you’re not doing that either, the flipper is dropped.

    At this point I’ll rest my case, at no point in those videos is the flipper actively flipping the ball away. He even uses a nudge to get it across because it can’t fully make it under its own power. This isn’t even the main point but you guys are trying super hard to latch onto it. You can attempt to justify that all you want.

    #100 23 days ago

    Embrace the ski pass! Death to engaged flipper fraudulent dead bounces!!

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