I like the term “World Under Glass” because the phrase “Sewer Under Glass” was already trademarked by Stern <flame repellant undies firmly in place>

Actually Stern has already used the term in their marketing in the past; making even less cool than before.

Lol you crack me up Law. I got rugs in front of my games because i dont want my carpet getting worn or dirty where people stand all the time, is that ok? Can i still be in the "players" group?

No

But....what if you came over and i smoked your ass, would you let me in then?

Listen, what you two do in the privacy of your own homes is not any of my business... but smoking ass is not something recommended by the American Cancer Society...

Lol too funny

I bought a Nikon D5 just so that I could capture the best overhead image of my games. I then have custom pinball protectors made that has the playfield picture on them so I can still enjoy them while protecting my grail investment. It takes me 20 minutes to get a game unwrapped to play but it is worth the effort.

Smoking ass only causes cancer in California. Read your labels before you lecture us about safety.

This shit just writes itself

I'd take that bet all day and twice on ass smoking day.

I didnt say that i could beat him, i said what if i did? Take Zach for example, he is a big world under glass guy and he loves modding his games and is damn good at it btw, and he even uses the word "pretty" all the time, which i think he needs his man card pulled for that probably but he's also a player and could kick most people's asses in pinball all day long. So my point is, you can be a player and someone who looks at their games both.

Of course you can. All types of collectors here.

Of course not. I'm pretty and still have my card I think. I think we're on the same page here with everyth....

Goddamit man. I can let most things go but lusting after others mod jobs has got to be a card violation.

I'm beginning to think his skills on camera may involve heavy editing. There's a rumor that cftbl is smoking Zach's ass right now.

Some funny stuff there now!

I think its hillarious we are all on here talking about smoking ass... and how that would play out on partially overheard conversations... “Have you been smoking his ass again?” “I smoked some ass yesterday... boy was that sweet.” “Damn these kids, they kept asking me about smoking ass, saying they didn’t know which end to light, and wondered how well they drawed...”

Free ass smoking (or a Hook translite) to anyone who can tell me where I stole that last line from...

I feel the same way aboot "OMG you really got your toy all lit up, it's so pink...and a little purple *tee hee* Now I can finally see it when we play with the lights out."

Probably should change it to vaping ass these days I guess.

Not sure why, but that sounds significantly worse.

Because it's a lot harder then stacking the three bsd multiballs.

Thanks for not saying pretty.......

Or cute.

or that pin is looking so hot and sexy, she’s giving me a woody.

Side Rails or playfield?

No room for WD ?!

Fun topic guys. It's really interesting to think about exactly what elements in one game make it a more complete "world under glass" than another game.

I think a lot of people focus on playfield "toys" or molded pieces that try to evoke a 3D representation of the theme such as IJ's ruins + Idol + planes, WW mountains, ramps, and Bigfoot, etc.

In my own collecting experience I've kind of gone from being drawn to the 90's B/W games with lots of this type of stuff to where sometimes now I find it a bit off-putting for some reason.

For example, the new JJPPOTC game is by all measures and amazing achievment in this regard, but the game just leaves me flat. The molded rocking ship is cool for sure, but then I notice the slingshot plastics look (frankly) terrible.

So I kind of have a love/hate relationship with this stuff now. I actually dislike figurines on the playfield a lot but went ahead and upgraded the ones on my IMDN LE since it already had them and the ones it came with were pretty middling. I even thought about just installing the flat plastics instead at one point.

I guess what I'm saying is that sometime's I feel like this stuff is like putting custom Ferrari body-molding on a Fiero.

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...it can really cheapen the feel of a game.

I'm gaining a new appreciation for the simplicity and often beauty of an EM or SS game with amazing art and subtle lighting that keep it classy and use the artwork and lighting to present a more artisitic & timeless presentation vs. something that looks like a cheap dollar store toy.

There's a fine line between "World Under Glass" and cheezball.

Not a fair comparison with that Ferriero, it needs PinStadium under carriage lighting with UV glow to look cool! Lol

My ride.

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You do know it cost more when you want one. It cost less if someone says, I have one for sale.

Is this to hold you over until your ship comes in, JJP POTC

Screw that, wait for Munsters Zach. The Munsters is going to be EPIC!

Have you checked with Bob?

Wait.. you STILL don’t have POTC? Wtf? I think Jack may be trolling you.

They are just saving the Best for last. JJP Pirates is an absolute masterpiece and Zach better judge accordingly or we are jumping ship to team Bone! (figuratively jumping on the bone!)

Somehow that just doesn't sound right. Gotta shake that image.

You can get an OTC cream to take care of that.

(Hello, Mcfly, Anyone remember Junk Yard Time machine modes?!?)

CC has the look and sound of the late B/W and it's a fantastic package...I just think it's the worst of the afm/mm/mb ruleset.
The mine mech is buggy, the drops are a great idea but get a little old, it just gets a little boring. I played a ton of the CCC code and just got burnt out on it personally.
No doubt it would sell well.

Don’t disagree... yes, he did go further with video/audio callouts, and they are an interesting side addition, but I think he was just capitalizing on existing animations and sounds he culled during his reverse engineering of the code for CC.

The rarity issue makes this machine higly collectable, but the original code is not a great lasting title in a small home collection. CCC would make it stay a little longer, but ultimately you will move CC out for a MB, MM, or AFM, and eventually once you have a few of the tribute machines in your collection, CCC will move on too, imho.

I dunno, it just doesn't do anything for me. Maybe I'll change my mind when I get a chance to play it. I've got Woz and DI in my collection, and I like DI, but I have yet to really get into Woz. I keep it around mostly because guests are attracted to it. My sense is might find POTC the same way. Looks cool.. but..

This or that? New JJPPOTC or used Hobbit (3.0 code) with cash in your pocket. Hmmm.

CCC would be a good title for CGC, but not a good choice for players and small HUO collectors like myself. I have always thought CC was a yawner once I got the chance to play a lot of it. Those who have played it on PA, the live experience doesn't differ much from the PA experience. If you get lucky and can play a CCC somewhere, check it out, it’s worth a play or two or a 100. Thanks guys for the review, my take CC is a C+, and CCC is closer to a B- than B+

But my biggest complaint is Bring back the chipmunks!!!!

Seems to be a general concences about the pin atleast!

Zach,
MB continues to challenge me because it has more challenges you can try for. Not just Frankie MB or Bash for the casual player, but MOR for wizards, and then there is Rock before Bash, 666, MMP and stacking monsters to get to MOR. CCC adds some more challenges that CC desperately needed, but it borrowed more content, imho, than it created new things for us to see and play. It certainly improved CC a lot though, but not sure it pulled it even with some of the greats like AFM or MM, or even MB, which was a thematic grand slam, even if the ruleset is lighter than the other top 90’s pins.

For me CCC is fun for a little bit but that's only because I don't get to play one very often. The layout is super easy to shoot and it's a very long ball time game. It's hard for me to enjoy any game that I have ball times that long on consistently. They just tend to get old real fast. The continued software is fun and it shows you that CC can be a decent game with more code. I'd still take MB over it due to layout, toys, theme, etc but both are pretty highly overrated in my opinion. I completely get why people like either or both but neither are really my cup of tea.

What was the total bash/rocks?