I agree 100% with this

That was my thought as well. The wizard mode is only over when you *say* it's over. it doesn't have to automatically stop just because you're down to one ball on the playfield.

I know. I asked him to hit it and it did nothing

I’m sure it’s going to at some point.

Yeah. Some do this already that I know of (stranger things and GOT).

I do hope, for the sake of transparency in advertising, that Stern removes the "center ramp accessible from all flippers" claim from their promo video. Unless "accessible" means "ball can hit ramp but not complete it" then I just don't see access here and it really limits the use of the third flipper. Pretty bummed about that.

Not a chance in hell, as Aerosmith didnt have "I dont want to miss a thing" as wizard mode.

I'm watching the Dead Flip stream of Led Zepplin.....it's pretty frikkin terrible. I don't think I've been more disappointed in a Stern Pinball Machine launch in recent memory. Nothing about the machine or the gameplay itself excites and me and draws me into this pinball machine despite being a fan of the band!

It's in the Wizard mode, ball save for eight minutes.

Ouch!

Nice job Zach and Greg on your underrated video .
Zach what's on your coin door of your Hobbit .

Nice.

Haha- which would fit since everything else about this pin is lame..
I second the “they wouldn’t waste rights to epic songs in areas most will never find.” I hope I’m wrong..

It’s got something. Music is great, flippers look amazing...ramps look smooth and..”accessible”.
I didn’t mind the callouts or sounds. I don’t get the display- program it like people don’t care about it anyway or like don’t want people to care? Running video of band playing a different song? Why? If I’m in one tour, why am I seeing stills from much earlier or later Zep? They didn’t get enough video assets either? At this point, why didn’t they simply do a movie pin for The Song Remains the Same? The remastered audio and video of that movie is crazy good.
How does IJ have several modes where you do something on a DOT matrix screen, and most new pins use the beautiful LCD screen for clip shows or pick the path? I guess it isn’t pinball, but the screen is just sitting there.

Add the magnetic trap, this pin will be above average- maybe even good. Ramps in sequence are satisfying, look at JP skill shots. Problem most of us are having is LZ deserved better.

The problem we're having is that it looks like you could strip it down to the playfield and code and then swap in any other band on top. Steve Ritchie has done his job perfectly well, but five years from now we'll probably see enthusiasts doing exactly this with old LZs to create their own 'custom' band game.

Or six months in the case of digital pincab versions.

This is why I don’t buy into the hype anymore. Embarrassing.

I wouldn't blame Steve. I don't think you can - just like Star Wars he's managed the very best with what they would allow him. Four legitimate ramp shots on one game is nothing to sniff at from a design perspective. But with no disrespect to Keith Elwin, if he's the new golden boy who's going to get the lion's share of the fatted calf from now on, you're going to end up with more forgettable B-tier pins like this one that even the rest of the designers can't get enthused about (trust me, I know that feeling).

And why would you want that as your business strategy anyway? There's only so many purchasing dollars to go round, and sooner or later the market's going to decide that there's only one game per calendar year or designer cycle that's automatically worth saving for on its own merit, and other than name-recognition sales the distributors are going to get very unhappy with being lumbered with so much unshiftable stock.

I do not necessarily think there is a great issue with the shot layout/design, its typical Ritchie and okay, might seem a little bit uninspired but Im sure with an amazing theme and integration and rules it will be fun. Just look at Game of thrones pro, kinda simple layout with no impressive toys, but OMG the rules is what makes that game such a fantastic game, combined with the classic Ritchie flow. But from what i have seen til now of LZ, not a single part of me gets excited or drawn into the game. First off I dont like Zeppelin in particular, but also the whole art package and gameplay til now is a like a big layer of clearcoat between the game and my enthusiasm.

I will look forward to playing it in person of course, and Ill be open for the slim chance that it might be very different experience when all code is done. but...I doubt it. In any case, Im glad for all LZ fans, I remember how I ordered the premium of Maiden after it being announced, before trying it, as Maiden is my #1 band.

Someone confirmed that? thats pretty funny if so.

cant imagine getting to a wizard mode and having the game play something so slow and boring.

Wait, you have two belly buttons?

Good catch!!

I have changed my mind and think the gameplay is not too bad by looking at video.
Art is still questionable and I don't get off on LZ music.
Looking forward to a bash.

I can only watch about 15 minutes of a play video before losing interest, but man I wish I can shoot like this guy. Hitting shots like crazy, man.

Thanks for all your funny stuff dudes
Hope to see lots of you guys next year!!
Stay safe amigos

Thank you for posting; some nice shooting! First gameplay video I watched.

Seems like a competent enough game, but no big "moments" that I saw. If you are a massive Zep fan this is a step above just putting a bluetooth speaker next to a random pin (and 2 of the 6 cd's in my very rarely changed car cd changer are Zep cd's...). Until you play you never know. Could be some things hidden in the rules to grab you (like losing progress to the "do or die" shot on Iron Man...).

Wait, you don't?

joke
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your head

I really don't know how you will ever top the TMNT unboxing. So good, every time.

Come on everybody vote at the twipys
SDTM for the win!!!

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I liked that episode in concept....until I lost!!!!!

You guys do a really great show. Thank you

I really think the comedic potential of you doing something punishing and disgusting while trying to beat Zach to the finish of a pin setup has just begun to be explored. You've set the bar high with that TMNT video, but looking forward to how you top it.

I give you credit though as you stood in there and took it. Would you guys ever go back and update your best of list? Are there any newer machines that would creep into the best of lists ie for ramps, wizard mode, or world under glass.
And to echo the sentiments above, you guys are great together. Hopefully, one of your New Year’s resolutions are more SDTM videos.

Second this.
The show is great.

Great review, nailed it! I had a Wonka, felt the EXACT same way you described. Sold it, regretted it the next day. A CE is now back in my collection and I couldn't be happier. It's a brilliant pin. Love it!

I swear every time you guys review a pin I want that pin. Your excitement is infectious. That being said I can’t afford to keep up with you lol.

Great review guys. Right on point with the location play vs home setting. When I did play on location and finished a play session, I was like damn wish this was at home. It truly is fun to play and love PL games.

Love my SE. It really is the best JJP game to me. The pop sdtm drains are frustrating as they mentioned..... Wonder if putting a little rubber in there to make it bounce might work, but it would probably mess with shooting the ball up through that area....

ZMeny - how'd you mount the factory mod to the factory ramp? That looks great having both the factory and the machine/pipe mod!

good question

yah this is one of those games you really have to play allot to appreciate.

Too many people in this hobby play two games on a new pinball and say "this sucks" and thats it.

There is way too much going on on this one to get unless you play it a ton.

This is to me by far the best JJP game and maybe an all time top 10 overall.

thank god thats not the way it was meant to be. I was thinking I mounted my brown factory wrong after watching the video

Dam you ZMeny , Now I have to find another Wonka! I miss that game, so much fun.

Thanks!

By the way, did Greg ever take the Beatles challenge you threw out? Curious why you don't have it in your collection anymore though I saw a platinum in that review behind you guys