Okay we need a mod that maybe can help string this all into one post.

Black Rose trust me when I say these are not slow at all I had a chance to play with them in metallica and it rocked around that game plus they all work with the magnets. I also did a quick test regarding BSD, NF and TAF worked just as well too. hopefully this answers Borygard question too.

That is a reference to the original poster which is you

I would recommend coming to EXPO to check them out for themselves and hopefully people who are bringing games to the show will let us put these balls into their game to show them off.

How I play into this is? I sold Brian a pinball machine became friends had way too many phone calls about pinball and then he asked me about these balls which I thought was a great idea and have been testing the balls in my games.

Don't Frax as soon as Brian knows what the price will be and after the Expo I'm sure the website will be updated with the products for sale.

And your correct and I don't think Savage is trying to hide that fact.

Again your correct this will not work in all the games out there, example The Champion Pub, as soon as you get up to the jump rope the ball flies off with the first jump its just too light.

We are putting a list together that we know they will work in regarding the games toys and features but there are a lot of games out there so maybe my wife will let me buy some more games

Some people will love them, some will hate them. I am just glad someone stepped up to fill a need in the pinball community that fixes a problem for other Viper owners as well as adding a new product to the hobby.

viperrwk, I hope this address's your concern about this product and Brian or myself will try to answer anyones questions regarding the product you all might have.

Looking forward to meeting you all at Expo if your going, now back to my real job that isn't pinball related

There is more then 30 vipers out there ipdb has the production run of 1,100 games, but I guess we have to wait and see what happens.

And your correct and that is why you would want to add UV LEDs and strips to your game to help create the overall glowing effect.

Example I thought the glo ball or a blue ball would be great for BSD but the monster green had the best overall effect in my thoughts but that is my personal taste.

The best thing about mods you do what you like and make it your own.