Since I have installed the spinners, and played a couple 100 more games... I have decided to connect BOTH spinners on my game to only the LEFT most pic. The reason is three fold:

1. This is the least amount of modifications to the original rules, while still keeping roughly the same points for spinner switch hits

2. You are much more likely to arbitratilly trigger the right spinner switch, since a short plunge will trip it as well as a missed skill shot that trickles down the right orbit (ESPECIALLY in M-ball).

So, a short plunge to a right flipper trap, to a left orbit spinner shot, would effectively give you two pics with one shot (if tied to both pics). However, if you tie both spinners to only the left or right (one unique switch), you will now need to collect the other 3 pics (not 2) with 3 other unique shots.
3. An "orbit combo shot" will now only award ONE pic (that is, unless you disabled the up-post in settings already[silly])

So now instead of 50% more likely, you are only 25% more likely to make single pic target progress that you normally would not make.

I realize these are all very minor details, but it's the least amount of rule change, while still keeping the points at about 6,000 per spinner switch.

I have made it to Blackened one time, out of 500+ plays on factory settings. And that was BEFORE I added the spinners to my pro. A couple switch hits that you are arbitrarily going to hit in the course of the game anyway, is not going to affect how often you get to blackened.

A local member of my league insists that it is way too hard to get to blackened anyway. He set his MET to 2 pic completions, instead of 5(is it THAT many?) for each band member. I tend to agree with him... 95% of people that play MET 10 times in a row will never see that mode. I think that's sad, since it plays more like part of the regular game, over a wizard-type-mode and it is a lot of fun as well.

Ah good idea! I always hold the flipper and try to get a super skill shot off the left flipper. But I agree, if someone is worried, tie both to the same pic!

I can't wait to install mine Just had a monster game with the GF the other night. Kinda feel bad when my balls are taking minutes and she is only seconds....but I told her to practice more

I am in!! Payment sent! Thanks for doing a rerun. Now who knows Lyman so we can get this in the code update???

Question, Is the wiring long enough where you can attach both spinners to the left pick?

Love mine!

how many drilled new holes to mount the spinner vs use existing screw from orbit metal

BAH the spinners catch on things if you don't drill into the pf. Hooked I never looked at much instruction. You have to drill 2 small holes? I don't have extra screws

I'll have to swing by the HD to snag them.

I drilled a single new hole which is plenty to hold them down. I used my bench grinder, router, and spindle sander to modify my plastics. Pattern it out with paper or cardboard first.

Jesse

I bought LE plastics... no cutting on those guys

Ok, so new hole. Remember the size of the bit?

Thanks!

Is there a source where we can buy just the plastics needed?

I don't but I just went to HD and picked up #6 1/2" screws to install the spinners to the playfield. I am only going to do one on each as Jarbyjibbo suggested.

I had Terry at pbl get me a set, it is all plastics for the LE
803-5000-E3

When will you have these back in stock? Would love to get a set!

I generally don't predrill for #6 or smaller, especially when it's hidden. A few turns and a little pressure and it'll bite.

ah ok. Thanks. I need some shower hardware so I'll snag them tomorrow.

How long of a screw are you using? Im doing a similar project on my TWD, and the holes are already drilled on the left side. Was wondering what size screw was standard for a spinner bracket.

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Just read above. 1/2"

I always keep a supply of various Pinball parts on hand.

http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=225

HD doesn't carry these.....ugh

It's all good HOOKED. I just ordered from pbl. Figured HD would have it, forgot they didn't. I have #8's downstairs but not #6's. Thanks for the offer!

When I get mine I can make an install video, especially since burning man my nearby pinhead has them as well so we can document the process.

I have the screws! Just need to get time to put it in. Hopefully this weekend

Has anyone checked the new code yet?

I would gladly pay and share some good drinks if you installed mine : )

yep...was hoping we would consider doing this at the same time. I have all the tools to cut the plastics, screws, etc...let me know when your spinners arrive...

You may want to watch the video first, and serve the drinks after! But sure..

Can someone explain how spinners would be implemented in code on a pro? Because I'm not seeing it..... Unless they had them wires to a new location or sensed the switch for a pic being hit multiple times quickly and used that?

They would be wired into the switch matrix in the same location as they are in the premium.

ah, ok good. that is what I figured.

bump to get this mod order filled!

I've seen a few new buyers in the met thread.....should cross post!

This is REALLY a smart idea HOOKED. These should have never been produced without a spinner in the first place!!

What about the pop caps?! WANT

Received today. The real deal. Bump for a great mod.

Got mine last week. Installed today. Grinder wheel is definitely the way to go. I dried the Dremel first but the grinder wheel makes the plastics notches look factory.

I may start working on a 1.64 patch for these spinners. Great mod. (Only wish it came with screws and more detailed instructions for those who are less hands on. But that's what this forum can be for.)

I thought most people used existing hardware in the game to mount to?

#6 hex what length