Mike goes the raw prawn at everyone so I wouldn't take anything he posts seriously. I just hope that the designer he employs(when will this be announced?) is allowed to work according to a agreed upon budget/design and isn't micro managed.

Mike you announce that you are building a pinball on aa/fb and you didn't expect a post(s) to be started here and every other pinball forum on the world? Come on son you should know better then that. Having a tanty at anyone and everyone that doesn't get it is just plain silly and like wrestling with a pig you'll be left with mud on your person.

Stop jumping at shadows and having unnecessary inter web feuds and get this people's republic of china pinball made. As far as being called a cripple, harden up old fruit.

Why??

Home pin is a strident old goat and realises/will realise that he he will have to reap what he sows. I and no doubt others would like to follow the running commentary on the game as it comes to fruition without the sycophants moderating/locking threads that aren't complimentary to the PRC pinball factory.

Crash don't tell me you are concerned how mike is perceived in the pin side community?

Above all I want to know who will be designing this and how much autonomy they will have? Hoping for eddy or lawlor. Praying it won't be the self proclaimed king of flow.

Let's not all get up his goat till he's at least had a good suck of the sauce bottle. All this talk from the Sepos is making me want to wet my whistle, feel as dry as a dead dingos donger. After I've had skin full will need to go shake hands with the unemployed and point Percy at the porcelain.

No pro, premium, limited edition. Just 1000 "Chinese made, Australian designed" planks. Am I the only one wanting to know who will be designing this?

The chronology would dictate that a designer needs to be appointed before it is designed. Any pin designers currently living in china? Anyone have a ball park figure of what it costs to put a team together to make this a reality?

the infastructure is in place per se. Homepin has been in china for years manufacturing pinball and non pinball products. Wages, equipment, etc etc will all be in chinese currency not usd/aud. He has stated he will not be using bws/stern parts but making all his own.

it has to be an established designer for a first game from a new player. New designers/ideas would be great but are apprentices as such being taken on by the industry for this to come to fruition?

point taken. The factory, machinery and labour are so i guess we are both right and wrong at the same time.

ill have to defer to your greater knowledge in this field and concede the point.

its safe to say that 500 of these will be snapped up by us aussies. Pretty much everyone i know that has the cash will be a nib buyer.

rgr you going to be involved/consulted as to its playability??

and now we're back. Gentlemen please stay focussed.

Mike, home pin needs to return to this thread but not through you. Send a rep, some one less strident and not so emotive. Even if you are adamant in not offering your game to north America the single greatest by consumption of pinball market let's say it's all part of doing business in china and just not offer pay pal as an option. Business as usual.

Let's hear more about Tbag and this new phone that you are working on and the integration of the two. It is a fallacy to deduct that pin side is simply a soap box for Yankee doodle dandee. Many Brits and continentals reside here plus a handle full of convicts.

Let's start of by telling us who you have doing what? P.s. Dmd no more, LCD this fab Tbag.

Designing/integrating, the answer appears to be yes. Hard to say since I've been blocked from home pins facebook page after asking about the designer.

It's sad that it is what it is because mike put his hand in his pocket when gamesroomessentials got robbed and is a do not say kinda guy. I'm chalking this whole affair down to under deliver over promise strategy.

Yep making mike is making dmd co.ours and they look pretty. Everything you say dictates that . Yes. Go go go

Don't take it seriously/personally, home pin manufactures in china it's propably the cost of doing business to make posts like this. Either that or hack into the pin side server and black cock the entire forum.

What's a shrimp?

You've never seen a forum be black cock bombed? It's not a vein threat, see what I did there son?

whose the designer bump.

Well that's a given, not like pinball design is a blooming profession in the peoples republic. Come on mike post some pertinent info re Tbag and get this thread back on track.

I'd like to see/not see the following: inner loop, no pop bumpers, shadow style ramp diverters, two flippers only, video mode or two, deepness on par with road show, quantity and variety in call outs, ditch your outdated idea of dmd and go with LCD, timed drop targets and myself featuring in somewhere amongst the cows and Easter eggs.

Bumpasaurus. Payment plan details now published on www.homepin.com

Now if he would only say who is designing this bird.

Oh and welcome back to me.

Email him this oversight. Mike appreciates feedback from his north American customers. I just wish old mate mike would let the cat out of the bag about the designer. I'm busting to ask him a few questions regarding this project.

The blurb that states and I paraphrase that it will be a rule set that beginners can understand but also extra depth for experienced players pretty much rules out our old mate pat.

No other designer would float your boat?

Who would you like to see?

Anyone know of complete or otherwise list of those working/want to be working in the industry??

How so?

Mike I know you don't want to reinvent pinball so you wont have to with not having pop bumpers. Most pops add little/nothing in terms of gameplay and just detract from flow. A child spawning from the loins of theatre of magic and the shadow would be brilliant.

Two flippers, no pops, basement scoop, inner loop or two, combo jizzfest, genuine skill shot, 2/3/4/5 multi balls.

Ruleset can't be simple if you want to sell to the home market. Doesn't need to be a tspp which is more long rather than deep but if we get a gilligans island 2.0 I'll be giving you a wag of the finger rather than a tip of the hat.

Theme alone has only ever made a poo game desirable once(to some). You will have to deliver more than ss gameplay with a dmd screen.

Everyone wishes you success in this even those that don't because in the end no one cares if your a top bloke or not, the game will speak for itself.

Why not??

I used to work in Chicago,

In the old department store.

I used to work in Chicago,

I don't work there anymore.

Bump. Might want to update how this is coming along old boy.

What caused you to do this?

Looks like we got ourselves a wise guy. Think old mike will struggle with all the boutique pins coming out, cutting off the entire continent of north America and no apparent imput from any established pinball designers. He's gone all out on a new factory in the PRC so let's hope he at least breaks even.

I'd really like to hear from someone in team home pin about the progress. Maybe homepins's boy, the mrs or one of the subservient staff and old mate stick to engineering the game. I don't find the explanation regarding liability insurance as plausible given every other manufacturer sells to the US.

Team home pin this isn't the time to keep your light under a bushel and discommunicate yourself from the global pinball community north Korean style. Also banning people from your facebook page for asking who the designer is going to be isn't the best public relations approach either.

Pinch and home pin should share a cell and enjoy a tossed salad. Old mate mike you are strident to the point of being cantankerous but you get very defensive when one of jacks little boys gets a hard on for you. Dish it out old fruit, expect some blow back. Let's hope we get to play this plank some time soon. Unfortunately nib isn't for this pleb whose starting out in his own start up of sorts. From one captain of industry to another, good night and good luck.

I'm no racist but..............

Not the only country with a refugee problem son.

Pinballs aren't babies bro. If they were thunderbirds theme to home pin would be something like a great uncle twice removed. See you in Auckland bro.

Extra extra read all about it! Home pin announces new updates on website. You heard it here first son.

They're mexicans homer, mexicans.

Except for Mexico isn't in south America. It would also be my contention that neither is Guatemala or el Salvador.

Back on topic. Research and development room revealed on facebook.

Can't see this project ending well. Between the buying of pleb second hand industrial equipment and trolling peoples holiday destinations threads mike has clearly dropped the ball.

16 months till the plank is suppose to float and still no mention of a designer or anyone else apart from his boy doing the graphics and mike doing the engineering/"inventing".

Home pins chickens are coming home to roost. When a sycophant like fishy tales tells old mate mike his machinery looks old you know it's being done on the cheap. By his own admission the equipment is ten years old. Thunderbirds is promising to be better then coconut island but not as good as tumbleweed.

Hope I get the chance to play one on site but I can't see an op forking out dough on an outdated theme based on creepy man puppets, sorry marionettes.

Mike stick to being the crazy inventor and let someone else from your team handle the pinball public. Wish you all the best with your health.

This isn't china old mate you can't have people banned for disagreeing with you. You reap what you sow. For someone who has an opinion on everything and everyone you are extremely thin skinned when the shoe is on the other foot.

You want to be with the big boys like jack and gary so put an end to your crocodile tears, inspire people with information that this isn't going to be a father and son home brew project and accept that when you endeavor on a venture like this it will generate discussion, positive or otherwise.

Hope you take these words in the right spirit and let them be a bridge over troubled water to you and they assist you in overcoming your biggest obstacle, yourself.

You are jumping at shadows old boy. That's great that your boy is good at drawing. What I'd like to see is the involvement of pinball people in this venture cause after all this is a pinball. You are continually confusing observations and critique with personal attacks and this is why I think you are your biggest obstacle.

I also find that using caps lock makes your point more clear where it otherwise might not have got the reader's attention.

Are you a fat aussie bogan? Inventors are known for being quirky and crazy as you've demonstrated in this thread. Stop fighting with insignificant people on the Internet and show us something that's going to shock and awe us rather then mousin around 2.0. No other pinball manufacturer has their team under the veil of secrecy.

Maybe you will find these questions more to your liking: will the game be sold with complete code or will updates be released periodically? Is the pre order money in escrow in case of misadventure? Have you announced an Australian distributor? Is your release date of 2015 realistic considering how many times jjp shit the bed in the production of their first pin? You going to have a prototype at Sydney pinball expo? How many cartons of free tsing Tao will accompany each pin purchase? Do you like turtles?

Homepin criticising old mate wayno over how he handled a thle customer complaint. You just cant make this stuff up.

can we please get some game update not a pictorial timeline of antiquated Chinese industrial equipment.

Guess we know who is making the after market mods.

Old mate did an interview with pinheadz podcast where he came of as sane and likeable. Apparently it's all set for 2015 and it's one of six or so planks that are in various stages of conception and design.

Apparently no established designers can be named as they are working for other manufacturers right now and his boy will be doing the art work. All artwork will be hand drawn and not photo shopped.

One of the six games in the mix is said to be an original unlicensed theme. Has also acquired the rights to reproduce cocktail cabs under the "Hankin" name.

That's old mate in a nutshell for you. Let's hope the product doesn't match the man.

Anyone purchased or played his Hankin replica cocktail cab and can give feedback regarding the build quality? Does it have an option for more games?

Can the homepin fanboys please explain why he is still runnng his own or and marketing? Calling the Chinese a bit lazy,greedy and selfish when you are operating a factory in China seems counter productive. Mike gonna mike.

If thunderbirds comes out in 2015 crazy mike is going to look like a god. If he doesn't well it's just another boutique no show par for the course in 2015.

When is the thunderbirds 2.0 tv/movie coming out? I've heard nothing about it.