When a faceless American hiding behind cloaked email addresses is blackmailing you it doesn't help either!
When a faceless American hiding behind cloaked email addresses is blackmailing you it doesn't help either!
Quoted from Homepin:I do not want it to be a "mega company".
You are truly a master of creating your destiny.
Quoted from Homepin:I don't want or need American customers, thanks but no thanks, you just are not worth the trouble.
Interesting. ....but do you need American distributors or manufacturers at all for all those pinball parts? There must be something US you need somewhere to have this made, either via part, distributor or license - no?
I just wonder, if so, if any of those people are hearing your anti-American remarks, such as PPS for example.
Quoted from Homepin:It IS NOT about the money - I do not want ALL business - is that clear enough?
Homepin is and always has been a "hobby business". I do not want it to be a "mega company".
The only thing that is truly clear here is that you are extremely prejudiced against Americans.
Quoted from Homepin:I could never win a PP chargeback because it is simply too expensive to post things with tracking from Australia. I was charging $12 for post to the USA but every package cost me $17~18 to send anyway, and with no tracking.
This is a great example on how not to run a business.
I'm not sure what is wrong with saying: "Due to issues in the past, we require that all shipments to the US pay for tracking numbers, which is an additional $10 fee."
Instead, everyone of his customers from the US and Canada must be con artists out to steal his stuff. That's obviously the logical choice.
Quoted from Homepin:When a faceless American hiding behind cloaked email addresses is blackmailing you it doesn't help either!
Oh god, I have to hear more about this. Please do tell.
Quoted from o-din:I'll just drive to Mexico to pick up mine.
I'm down for a trip to TJ.
Quoted from Homepin:I didn't start this thread and I never had any intention of doing so about this machine. Someone else chose to start this thread. I have just posted the following on an Australian pinball forum. I don't want or need American customers, thanks but no thanks, you just are not worth the trouble. Stick to Stern and JJP - they know best.
I'm sure the people who hold the Thunderbirds license (and are producing new episodes) are really glad you're on their list of folks making an officially licensed product.
You make a huge point in your rebuttal to tell us how you're not concerned about the money you'll lose by not selling to the North American market, but then tell us it's all because you lost a few bucks on PP chargebacks.
Which is it? Do you care about the money or not?
I think the reality is that you got your panties in a wad over the comments in this thread (which really weren't brutal at all compared to what can happen in a forum thread) and are acting more immature than anyone in business has a right to be.
Quoted from o-din:I'll just drive to Mexico to pick up mine.
I wouldn't drive a block to buy anything from this boob.
Quoted from Homepin:It IS NOT about the money - I do not want ALL business - is that clear enough?
Homepin is and always has been a "hobby business". I do not want it to be a "mega company"
Mission Accomplished. I don't think that's going to become an issue for you
- Sincerely,
American Thief (though I've never bought from you nor defrauded anyone)
Quoted from RobT:I wouldn't drive a block to buy anything from this boob.
I kind of like the guy's attitude. We have all had groups of people we would rather not deal with. Including you and him.
Quoted from Homepin:When a faceless American hiding behind cloaked email addresses is blackmailing you it doesn't help either!
Just when this thread was getting a bit predictable, we get espionage and paranoia! We're in for a fun ride, folks!
Quoted from Homepin:If my stance on not selling to the USA bothers you that's fine - you can get your parts elsewhere. I am not in this "for the money" and that point has been missed by most. I am doing it because it's what I love to do. That's what makes me different. Comments like "you have cut off 75% of your market" mean nothing to me - so what? I don't care - like I said, it IS NOT about the money.
There is another reason they can get lost but I am instructed not to mention it publically - the above should be enough to make my point crystal clear.
Well then...it's settled. F Thunderbirds, F your company, and F you.
Quoted from RobT:I wouldn't drive a block to buy anything from this boob.
Please don't insult boobs like that.
Quoted from o-din:I kind of like the guy's attitude. We have all had groups of people we would rather not deal with. Including you and him.
Groups of people being all of North America?
Yeah, his attitude is great!
Quoted from o-din:Unlike WoZ, at least we know when to expect our Thunderbirds.
Now that's funny!
Quoted from RobT:For a business owner, this is pathetic. Truly.
You may want to take a course in Marketing 101 if you want to have even an iota of a chance of succeeding in your new business.Correct.
What do you mean? This is marketing gold, rob! /sarcasm
Oh man, I didn't realize someone could crap on themselves that many times, insane! lol
Well since it seems redemption won't be happening, I wish you good luck without the richest continent in the world supporting you. I will have ABSOLUTELY no trouble sourcing parts from others. It's not you who don't need us, it's us who don't need you. Areivederci, you have now completely ruined your worldwide reputation and are doomed to fail.
At least he never took our deposits on a machine with a much higher demand, and then didn't deliver.
Sorry for a negative first post, but I've been lurking for a while and this motivated me enough to post:
Quoted from Homepin:I have almost decided that I will not make this machine available to the USA market. I may not even include an option for 110V.
The USA was never an intended market. There are 200 other countries..............
Have fun in the USA living in your sheltered world.
I'm busy now - taking the "post to the USA" option off my website for boards I make because I don't think I will sell them to anyone in the US anymore - ByeBye.
Yes, I am taking my bat and ball and going home (if any of you actually understand that).
We invented baseball, dummy. Of course we get it. If you had "I'm taking my wicket and going home", now that would have confused us. If you had said "I'm taking my shrimp to a different barbie" we would have all at least laughed.
Face it, you came up with a game idea a lot of people had no interest in and then got all freaked out when we people were less than enthusiastic.
And I'm no flag waving America-is-the-best-even-though-it's-statistically-proven-we're-not guy, but there's a reason Superman, Batman, Santa Claus and Jesus all speak English and are dubbed over hysterically into other languages. Its because we have the biggest "stuff thrown in landfills" per capita of any country. We buy things. And someone would have bought your game up here.
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I was prepared to say, "Shut up and take my money" because he seems to be developing great products. We were prepared to spend hundreds. But no, instead I was blatantly discriminated against by someone with a flawed argument who can't take mild criticism on a public forum. Now can we please close this thread?
Quoted from Crash:I wish you good luck without the richest continent in the world supporting you.
Maybe he knows that all our money is now in China.
Quoted from AkumaZeto:Playing WITH PUPPETS oh I am sorry Marionettes.
Maybe it should be a "Being John Malkovich" pin instead......
Great theme Mike , best of luck with it .
Maybe Mike can look at other payment methods for our close friends in the US ,
Quoted from Gov:Maybe it should be a "Being John Malkovich" pin instead......
FTMFW
Quoted from o-din:At least he never took our deposits on a machine with a much higher demand, and then didn't deliver.
Give him time.
Quoted from AkumaZeto:Playing WITH PUPPETS oh I am sorry Marionettes.
Master of Playing With Puppets LE
Quoted from Pinchroma:I must be the only one that has never seen that movie.
Someone give me the abridged version?
Quoted from TheMightySlouch:Santa Claus and Jesus all speak English
Sure they speak it, but German is Mr Claus' native language, and Aramaic was Jesus'.
Quoted from jrivelli:What do you mean? This is marketing gold, rob! /sarcasm
I actually agree with this, without the sarcasm. NOT being able to get this game, the forbidden fruit... it will truly be an exlusive LE model in the US. More rare than "The PIN", if that is possible. Certainly more of a rarity than the fake mass produced LE's we've been seeing. How do you make someone want something? Tell them they can't have it. Look at the response to the Metallica LE shortage... even I was tempted to grab one of the last ones from Canada. Then I remembered ~9-10K (with "essential" mods such as speaker upgrades and shipping) for a game is a lot of cash.
Quoted from jrivelli:Oh man, I didn't realize someone could crap on themselves that many times, insane! lol
Yeah, It sounds like I have some catching up to do.
New three step process:
1. Announce Product
2. Piss off your customers and act like a baby.
3. ...Profit?
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